So you have never slept well? That must suck ass.

No its common sense. Look at 2009. You see one from that draft?

All other positions need 3 years.

But there are NO QBS AT ALL AND WE KNOW THAT NOW.

Josh Freeman is going to be a good player in this league for awhile now. He's on an upswing. Unless you hate QBs who throw for 27 TDs and 4000 yards.

Past history tells us that right Clay? How many 2nd round QB's become franchise? You know the stat right?

the only reason chiefs fans think there were a franchise qb in this draft, is because the chiefs had the first pick. There werent, and arent any in this draft. Sad to say, but when you have four in one draft, you pay the piper the next year.

Common sense? No, it's surely not. At all. It's pretty stupid actually.


We have no idea what this class will become. You yourself are arguing that the past has no indicator on this draft etc because things are different in each situation.

My sources think otherwise

He was absolutely awful the second half of the season last year. Thats why he is in his final year of his contract, and they just drafted a developemental qb. He has no excuses, they spent all the money last year on the oline, on the receivers, on the tight ends. And yet, he sucked, HORRIBLY down the stretch.

This is a good point. Geno's probability for failure increased exponentially when foot fetish drafted him.

post the first 5 years of alex smith's stats please


because he is an embarrassment of a QB

I agree. I believe that had he gone to a buffalo, or even here to kansas city, that his bust rate is almost nil. And im not Trolling. Im being dead serious. The jets are an awful roster right now.....They have awful coaching, and even worse leadership.

Shrugs. I wont try to argue with you on it. You are completely right. Every single issue with the 49ers including 2004, when the 49ers went 2-14, was because of alex smith. You are spot on. IN this league, you never have to have talent around you, an ownership committed to winning, a competent coaching staff. You just need a competent qb. You also never have to worry about drafting a guy because you dont think you can sign the other guy.

If you cant figure everything out that I just said in that last paragraph, then you really need to do some research.

It's so funny that the posters who make fun of the people supposably "rationalizing" Alex Smith are the posters rationalizing Geno Smith.

This was a weak QB draft. Every team passed on the messiah and there is damning evidence against this guy.

He's not near the person or prospect the other QB's were and there seems to be more evidence proving this every day.

Alex Smith was the best QB we could have acquired this offseason and that's a fact.

You = stupid

I don't think I've ever read something you posted and was like "damn, that's a well put together thought"

Ever
You don't know that. His agent told him not to participate in the senior bowl...Geno has mentioned this multiple times in the media. It's probable that he has gotten feedback that teams didn't like that.

Shit, Clark Hunts comment at the time was "tell Geno we missed him at the senior bowl"

It's hard to tell why he fired his agent.

It's definitely possible that some of us at CP have been overvaluing him as a prospect due to factors that aren't available to us all such as interviews and
workouts....but even with that risk, his upside is more than that of a really good right tackle...but I digress.
it has little to do with Geno Smith.

oh...believe me. I understand your point.

It's just that I think it's asinine.