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Hammock Parties 06-30-2013 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9785463)
Sounds like she tried to do her job. The girls refused to cooperate, with a female agent. So, she called in her male agents.

Whatever she did scared those girls.

Nice job, copper.

Rain Man 06-30-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9785442)
If you want to arrest some stupid girl who you think is buying booze underage just ****ing pull the car up and turn the lights on.

Simple.

This made me think a little deeper. With seven agents, it's obvious that they were going after a big fish. Perhaps a snitch informed them that the high school football team was planning a kegger or something. So they've got their whole enforcement team on stakeout waiting for the cornerbacks and receivers to show up (because you know the cornerbacks and receivers are the ringleaders), and they saw this minor situation occur. Wanting to make the best use of the taxpayer's money, they decided to do an enforcement action while waiting, and then it all blew up when the perp tried to run.

Raiderhater 06-30-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9785450)
Possibly, yes. I'm taking issue with the people who immediately place ALL the blame on the agents.

Does anyone think that any of this would have happened if the girls had just cooperated with the one, female agent to begin with?

I do not know. That might depend on timing and truthfulness of some of the events. To read this article one is led to believe excessive force came first, and from plain clothes agents waving badges that are not seen by the general public all too often.

Now the writer could be taking liberties with the story to try and stir up controversy. Or maybe the ABC is trying to cover its ass. I don't know. All I have before me at this point is this story in the OP. And as it reads, the agents were out of line.

Raiderhater 06-30-2013 07:29 PM

Donger, where are you getting you other details from? I just read through the thread in DC. This one here alludes to the girl being approached by all of the agents at the same time. The one in DC straight up says it. Where are you finding that the female agent first acted solo?

suzzer99 06-30-2013 07:48 PM

Hey at least this didn't happen in LA or as part of the Boston bombers investigation, or those girls would all be sitting in a morgue right now.

Bugeater 06-30-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 9785324)
Seems to me the cheapest way, and maybe most effective way to keep underage kids from drinking would be to park one marked patrol car with one police officer in the parking lot.

They don't get money from fines that way.

Donger 06-30-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9785490)
Donger, where are you getting you other details from? I just read through the thread in DC. This one here alludes to the girl being approached by all of the agents at the same time. The one in DC straight up says it. Where are you finding that the female agent first acted solo?

http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/lo...9bb30f31a.html

ABC spokeswoman Kathleen Shaw said in the agency statement released Friday afternoon that agents were working the area that night, concentrating on underage possession enforcement. Shaw said a female agent saw "what appeared to be an underage person in possession of what appeared to be a case of beer."

"The agent identified herself as a police officer and was displaying her badge," the statement said.

"Other agents did not join the incident until the subject refused to cooperate," ABC said. "Rather than comply with the officers' requests, the subject drove off, striking two officers."

"The agents were acting upon reasonable suspicion," the statement added.

Imon Yourside 06-30-2013 08:10 PM

Nothing like getting blown away for waving a pen in a wheelchair....and then the cop gets off free.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=264087

Raiderhater 06-30-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9785521)
http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/lo...9bb30f31a.html

ABC spokeswoman Kathleen Shaw said in the agency statement released Friday afternoon that agents were working the area that night, concentrating on underage possession enforcement. Shaw said a female agent saw "what appeared to be an underage person in possession of what appeared to be a case of beer."

"The agent identified herself as a police officer and was displaying her badge," the statement said.

"Other agents did not join the incident until the subject refused to cooperate," ABC said. "Rather than comply with the officers' requests, the subject drove off, striking two officers."

"The agents were acting upon reasonable suspicion," the statement added.


I've been doing some looking around. There is also this from the original story:

"Charlottesville Commonwealth's Attorney Dave Chapman read Daly's account and said it was factually consistent."

http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/bo...9bb30f31a.html


So you have the agency saying one thing and the city's attorney saying the girl's statement is factual according to the investigation that has been conducted. Throw in the charges for fleeing assaulting officers has been completely dropped..... I could be wrong but, the way it reads to me is the ABC is trying to cover its ass. :shrug:

Pitt Gorilla 06-30-2013 08:21 PM

Literally nobody is going to buy their account of mistaking water for beer. I wonder what they were really up to.

Hammock Parties 06-30-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 9785549)
Literally nobody is going to buy their account of mistaking water for beer. I wonder what they were really up to.

Actually I buy that part.

They are dumb cops.

Pitt Gorilla 06-30-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9785554)
Actually I buy that part.

They are dumb cops.

dumb cops literally trained to spot alcohol. Zero chance they f up this badly.

Donger 06-30-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9785540)
I've been doing some looking around. There is also this from the original story:

"Charlottesville Commonwealth's Attorney Dave Chapman read Daly's account and said it was factually consistent."

http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/bo...9bb30f31a.html


So you have the agency saying one thing and the city's attorney saying the girl's statement is factual according to the investigation that has been conducted. Throw in the charges for fleeing assaulting officers has been completely dropped..... I could be wrong but, the way it reads to me is the ABC is trying to cover its ass. :shrug:

If the agents are lying, go after them. I've no problem with that at all. I'm not under the impression that any cop is infallible.

Hammock Parties 06-30-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 9785558)
dumb cops literally trained to spot alcohol. Zero chance they f up this badly.

What are the chances this was a drug bust in booze clothing?

Raiderhater 06-30-2013 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9785562)
If the agents are lying, go after them. I've no problem with that at all. I'm not under the impression that any cop is infallible.


I didn't really think you were.


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