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Pasta Little Brioni 07-14-2013 06:58 AM

Sac they have already made up their minds.

Saccopoo 07-14-2013 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9810718)
Sac they have already made up their minds.

Oh, I know that they have because I'd love to see someone argue that Smith doesn't throw for yards when he was #3 in the NFL last season.

People around here keep squealing for a QB like Stafford because they are told he's got this cannon arm that stretches the field and a guy like Alex Smith is a dink and dunk game manager.

However, when you look at the functional statistic of yards per completion, it's Smith that's actually putting up the elite level numbers versus Stafford, who was near the bottom of the pile in terms of YPC even though he threw for nearly 5,000 yards in 2012.

It's all about having the functional stats. Smith has them. Yards per completion. Completion accuracy percentage. TD's to Ints. While he's not bombing for 450 yards per game, he's making the very most of nearly every single pass he makes. When you combine that with a strong running game (which we have in Charles, who should be even better in 2013 with a QB that can maintain accuracy and a high completion percentage as it will keep the safeties and linebackers from sagging into the box like they did all year with Cassel and Quinn under center), and an offensive line that can control the line of scrimmage.

Charles, Bowe and Smith playing behind a very solid offensive line with Reid calling the plays should be a very dangerous combination to opposing defenses.

Easy 6 07-14-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9811682)
Charles, Bowe and Smith playing behind a very solid offensive line with Reid calling the plays should be a very dangerous combination to opposing defenses.

Nice overall post, but this last part is what i'm banking on.

BlackHelicopters 07-14-2013 01:31 PM

Tyler Bray

MagicHef 07-14-2013 01:46 PM

That's a lot of typing. I wonder how much more it will take you before you realize the numbers you're referencing are yards per attempt, not yards per completion. Stafford actually has a higher YPC than Smith.

BossChief 07-14-2013 01:55 PM

His YPA paired with the extremely small number of deep passes shows how effective Alex Smith can be on the intermediate throws.

Those are the throws that will be going to Bowe, Kelce, Avery, Moeaki, Mccluster, Fasano and Baldwin.

Charles should be nearly unstoppable this year.

I like that set of receiving options a lot.

Chiefs Pantalones 07-14-2013 02:32 PM

The instinct is to treat the Chiefs’ awful 2012 season as an aberration, and that’s probably the right call.

Even just a cursory glance at the club’s depth chart suggests that last season’s 2-14 mark won’t be repeated this year. After all, Kansas City had six Pro Bowlers in 2012, and the roster was strengthened this spring via free agency and the draft.

For new Chiefs coach Andy Reid, Kansas City represents a fresh start after two sour seasons to finish a Philadelphia tenure filled with more good moments than bad. The Chiefs’ new starting quarterback, Alex Smith, also gets to the turn the page after being forced out by Colin Kaepernick’s emergence in San Francisco.

There’s little doubt Reid and Smith will help lead a turnaround of some sort relative to 2012. If nothing else, the Chiefs are likely to move out of the AFC West basement. But are the Chiefs capable of quintupling their win total from a season ago? That’s probably what it will take to contend for a playoff spot.

Strengths.

The Chiefs’ defense does not lack for talent. Outside linebackers Tamba Hali and Justin Houston combined for 19 sacks in 2012 and joined inside linebacker Derrick Johnson and strong safety Eric Berry as Pro Bowlers. Cornerbacks Sean Smith, Brandon Flowers and Dunta Robinson are skilled and experienced.

The offense has some top-end players, too, with running back Jamaal Charles (1,509 rushing yards in 2012) a premier game-breaking threat and wideout Dwayne Bowe a legit go-to target. At quarterback, Smith should be an upgrade over Matt Cassel, and the addition of No. 1 overall pick Eric Fisher at left tackle strengthens the offensive line. The Fisher-Brandon Albert tackle tandem should be a real asset for the Chiefs.

With the additions of Reid and Smith, the NFL’s worst passing offense from a season ago has new life. That, in turn, should help a running game that thrived even without defenses having to worry much about the Chiefs’ passing attack.

Finally, Reid’s presence should be a major asset both on the sidelines and in the organization. The Eagles won 10 playoff games and registered nine winning seasons in his 14-season tenure. In that same span, the Chiefs didn’t register a single playoff win and had nine losing seasons.

Weaknesses.

While the Chiefs have some very skilled performers on defense, opponents nonetheless had success attacking Kansas City with the run and pass in 2012. To wit: the Chiefs finished 30th in yards per pass and 25th in yards per rush surrendered a season ago. The secondary should be better with Smith and Robinson joining the cornerback corps, but the run defense — especially right up the heart of the front seven — needs to be monitored. Per NFL statistics, opponents gained 4.78 yards per rush up the middle vs. the Chiefs in 2012.

On offense, the concern is the next wave of players beyond the starters. Kansas City is a little thin at the skill positions, especially at running back, where there is no clear-cut backup to count upon if Charles were to exit the lineup. Swift rookie Knile Davis has the talent to be a key contributor in the backfield, but he struggled with injuries and fumbles at Arkansas.

The depth at wide receiver is somewhat shaky until proven otherwise, too. Beyond Bowe, the top options are Donnie Avery, Jon Baldwin and Dexter McCluster. Avery is fast but comes durability concerns. Baldwin, the Chiefs’ 2011 first-round pick, hasn’t delivered on his potential. McCluster is quick but undersized.

On defense, the primary depth concerns are at outside linebacker, safety and along the defensive line.

Changes

Reid, renowned his work with quarterbacks and a proponent of the West Coast offense, is charged with reshaping the offense. Smith, who’s still not even 30 years old, could benefit form Reid’s tutelage and not having to worry about job security. There is no real threat to replace him on the roster.

In addition to Fisher, new faces on offense include Avery, tight end Anthony Fasano and quarterback Chase Daniel. Avery and Fasano project as regulars, while Daniel, formerly Drew Brees‘ understudy, will be the top backup to Alex Smith.

Rangy Sean Smith, signed from Miami, will start opposite of Flowers at cornerback, with Robinson expected to be the third corner. Robinson should be effective in this role; his experience and physicality ought to serve him well in the latter stages of his career.

The Chiefs will continue to use the 3-4 as their base defense, but Bob Sutton has taken over at coordinator, and some new wrinkles are to be expected.

Camp battles.

For a 2-14 club with a new head coach, the Chiefs don’t figure to have much camp-competition drama. Most starting spots are ably filled.

The offensive line could be the most unsettled position on the team. At center, third-year pro Rodney Hudson would seem to have the edge at center; he began 2012 as the starter before suffering a broken leg that ended his season. However, second-year left guard Jeff Allen got some work in the middle in the offseason, per the Kansas City Star. Allen started 13 games a season ago but graded out as the second-worst run-blocker among qualifying guards in Pro Football Focus’ rankings. Geoff Schwartz and Donald Stephenson are other potential options at guard.

Inside linebacker is another position that could have some intrigue if rookie Nico Johnson can push ex-Eagle Akeem Jordan.

Finally, Davis will get a look at kickoff returner, a position where the club could use more playmaking ability. However, he needs to hold onto the ball.

Prospects.

If Kansas City is playoff-caliber, it will show early. The Chiefs face one 2012 playoff team (Houston) in their first nine games. Five of their first six AFC games before their Week 10 bye are against the Jaguars, Titans, Raiders, Browns and Bills — teams Kansas City should be able to beat.

The Chiefs are going to need to take care of business in the first two months. Their post-bye schedule includes two games against Denver in three weeks. Kansas City also draws Washington and Indianapolis down the stretch. The season finale at San Diego won’t be easy, either.

Overall, though, it’s a manageable schedule for the Chiefs. And it’s probably safe to assume the bottom doesn’t fall out again this year – though we wouldn’t blame Kansas City fans for knocking on wood, given how last season went.

Really, though, the Chiefs’ 2012 form was so bad it cannot be taken at face value. Clearly, they are capable of more.

How much more is the question.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...s-city-chiefs/

Saccopoo 07-14-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9811857)
That's a lot of typing. I wonder how much more it will take you before you realize the numbers you're referencing are yards per attempt, not yards per completion. Stafford actually has a higher YPC than Smith.

It took me until right now, and you are correct.

YPC of the top ten passing yardage leaders:

Stafford: 11.41
Rodgers: 11.57
Brees: 12.26
Romo: 11.53
Brady: 12.03
Ryan: 11.18
P. Manning: 11.64
Luck: 12.90
Freeman: 13.28
Palmer: 11.64

Smith: 11.35

Combined with his YPA, which was #3 in the NFL in 2012, it means that Smith is being extremely efficient in his passing and is right there with the top passing leaders in the NFL. (The lower the YPA, the less efficient a QB is being with each possession. Less accuracy, less efficiency.)

Most of the starting NFL QB's were averaging about mid-11's in their YPC. I think it's a fallacy that these guys throwing for 5,000 yards per season are bombing the shit out of the field.

I'll take the increased completions for 11 yards up and down the field all game long versus a guy airing it out and only hitting 59% of his passes.

milkman 07-14-2013 03:35 PM

Your presentation is misleading sac.

I'm fairly certain that 11.35 ypa ranked him at 22nd or 23rd in the league, or bottom 3rd, in other words.

BigMeatballDave 07-14-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9810402)
I think it's funny that most of the people that allow him to get under their skin are actually just like him.

Ridiculous homers.

Not true at all. Not even remotely.

RunKC 07-14-2013 03:47 PM

Brock Assweiler hasn't proven shit. It would be a significant from him Manning to that turd.

I would easily take Alex Smith here over Assweiler starting in Denver.

Easy 6 07-14-2013 05:38 PM

Good grief, 4.7+ per rush against us last year, thats just rolling over with your ass in the breeze... just an unbelieveable, Madden-like number, what was Romeo doing?

Cant. wait. to see a more attacking style in play, make that runner react to YOU, not vice-versa.

Ace Gunner 07-14-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9812265)
Good grief, 4.7+ per rush against us last year, thats just rolling over with your ass in the breeze... just an unbelieveable, Madden-like number, what was Romeo doing?

Cant. wait. to see a more attacking style in play, make that runner react to YOU, not vice-versa.

bu bu bu but Glenn Dorsey :D

Easy 6 07-14-2013 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9812268)
bu bu bu but Glenn Dorsey :D

Heh, count me among the duped, in spite of what i thought i saw and what PFF has to say... he sure didnt seem to make much difference when you see those numbers.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-14-2013 05:49 PM

Sac is just killing it this offseason. Efficiency is overlooked by the legions of Madden Nation ballas/Fantasy obsessed NFL fans.


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