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'Hamas' Jenkins 11-02-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 10148806)
This reminds me of that RT we had under Dick Vermeil era I think his name was Christainson or something? He started out playing real good for the season and then had a fluke illness and never was the same. After that we have had shit RT after shit RT.

Kevin Sampson. Had a seizure after his first start.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-02-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 10148628)
It's been pretty obvious that he is human garbage since college.

Yup. The guy was a walking personal foul in St. Louis--gouging eyes, nut shots, the works. He got kicked off of Nebraska, for ****'s sake.

-King- 11-02-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 10148640)
I understsnd bullying against kids can't be allowed because they can't mentally handle it. Bullying an adult NFL lineman though? GTFO. Take care of business and stop acting like a bitch. What a pussy society this has become.

It has nothing to do with being a pussy. When people who are supposed to be your peers constantly make fun of you, its going to get to you no matter who you are or what job you have.
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Rasputin 11-02-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10148841)
Kevin Sampson. Had a seizure after his first start.



Oh yeah, good memory you have. I had high hopes for him and then always wondered what happened to him.

SAUTO 11-02-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 10148614)
http://deadspin.com/report-richie-in...ium=socialflow more on incognito...making fun of egnews fiance

he's a ****ing dickhead.
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Rain Man 11-02-2013 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 10147984)
Wow. Incognito sounds like a pillowbiter.

He generally has a reputation as one of the dirtiest players in the league as well.

gblowfish 11-02-2013 01:43 PM

Incognito is a genuinely bad guy. You don't do this kind of crap to destroy team chemistry. It's selfish and stupid. I'll bet the Dolphins jettison him right after the season is over.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-02-2013 01:56 PM

Perhaps he and Nacho can fist each other none too gently?

Sure-Oz 11-03-2013 10:56 AM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...rom-incognito/

SPN: Martin fears retribution from Incognito
Posted by Mike Florio on November 3, 2013, 10:59 AM EST
Incognito AP

Yep, the Jonathan Martin situation keeps getting weirder.

At a time when the Dolphins claim that tackle Jonathan Martin hasn’t alleged that he was bullied or harassed by any teammates and Incognito has demanded on Twitter that his name be cleared, Adam Schefter and Chris Mortensen of ESPN report that Martin hasn’t formally accused anyone of bullying or harassment because he fears retribution.

Per the report, Martin specifically fears retribution from guard Richie Incognito (pictured).

Schefter detailed a situation in which Martin was intimidated by Incognito to contribute $15,000 toward a trip to Las Vegas by the team’s offensive lineman. Martin, according to Schefter, didn’t want to go and ultimately didn’t go — but he surrendered the money anyway.

If true, it’s the really rich guy example of someone stealing someone else’s lunch money.

Schefter also explained that there are text messages and at least one voice message proving harassment and justifying Martin’s fears for retribution. Schefter added that Martin’s recent comments to Incognito explaining that Martin doesn’t blame his teammates for harassment also arose from concerns by Martin that he’ll face retaliation if he accuses Incognito of doing anything wrong.

Until Martin makes a formal complaint of bullying, the Dolphins will be able to declare that everything is fine. Even if the truth is that everything is far from it.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-03-2013 10:57 AM

Why not just cut Incognito now?

Sure-Oz 11-03-2013 10:57 AM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-the-dolphins/

Martin headed for NFI list, may never return to the Dolphins
Posted by Mike Florio on November 3, 2013, 10:17 AM EST
Jonathan Martin AP

The situation involving Dolphins tackle Jonathan Martin continues to get more and more bizarre.

In the wake of the Dolphins issuing an “all is well” statement, it’s clear that all isn’t well. According to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network, Martin will be placed on the non-football illness list as soon as Tuesday. Per Rapoport, Martin doesn’t feel comfortable returning to the team “unless the situation changes drastically in the Dolphins locker room.”

So Martin hasn’t complained of bullying, but he thinks things need to change dramatically in order to return to the team?

If the problem for Martin flows not specifically from the Miami locker room but generally from the culture of the NFL locker room, changes would need to happen in every locker room before Martin could play again.

Then there’s the question of whether the NFLPA is or isn’t investigating the situation. NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith has called the situation a “major priority,” and subsequent reports indicated that an investigation was occurring. According to Adam Schefter of ESPN the probe initially focused on guard Richie Incognito.

Now, the NFLPA has said there’s no investigation, and Incognito has demanded via Twitter that his name be cleared.

To add even more confusion to an already confusing situation, Rapoport says that “the NFLPA has not launched an investigation” but the union is in “information gathering mode.”

How is that different than an investigation?

Our guess based on all the available facts and reports and circumstances is that Martin believes something happened beyond the confines of the normal and accepted behavior of an NFL locker room, but that Martin realizes it’s not in his interests to officially complain about bullying. Instead, Martin likely hopes that things will change without Martin causing specific problems for any of his teammates or for the organization.

Regardless of the truth, we’ve got a feeling that this specific story has plenty of remaining twists, turns, and contradictions.

Sure-Oz 11-03-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10151318)
Why not just cut Incognito now?

No kidding? The dude has a history of being a BIG POS...I don't get the dolphins here. Shit like this shouldn't happen. There must be a bunch of pussies in the dolphins locker room to not call out Incognito.

Titty Meat 11-03-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10151318)
Why not just cut Incognito now?

Sure but Martin sounds like a huge pussy.

chiefzilla1501 11-03-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10151318)
Why not just cut Incognito now?

Exactly. It's interesting to me that nobody seems to deny that Incognito was doing this, yet no discplinary action. Unless they're worried that people would start asking why he was suspended or cut.

chiefzilla1501 11-03-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 10151332)
Sure but Martin sounds like a huge pussy.

The way everyone has reacted to it, it sounds like there's a much bigger story here. I think questioning if he was gay and bullied for it holds a ton of water.


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