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Easy 6 11-18-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10201340)
Avery's drop.

Sherman's fumble.

Charles' drop on the screen at approx the 10 yard line that was wide open for a TD.

If people just hold on to the ball, we're probably in position to win the game - to say nothing of all the other drops or shoulda-caughts

Yep, all of this... those three plays alone could've changed everything.

And while i'm not down on them, it was pretty disappointing that the D barely sniffed manning, only hit him once or twice, sure didn't see that coming.

Mr. Flopnuts 11-18-2013 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10201790)
Hey, those are ten things! Who has time to read ten things????

Ha! I'll take that as a compliment considering how much I look forward to reading your write up every week.

CoMoChief 11-18-2013 02:57 PM

Lots of crucial dropped passes.

Oline can't block for Charles or A.Smith

Smith should have covered Thomas instead of Cooper

Sherman's fumble

That pretty sums up the Chiefs loss. All of that summed up together could have possibly totalled 17pts the Chiefs left off the board, and it could have possibly taken away a TD from Denver.

Had we played well we could have won that game 34-20 (approx).

Simply Red 11-18-2013 09:43 PM

oh weird - Steve Sewell is posting.

Psyko Tek 11-18-2013 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10201326)
I just hate how Reid always chooses to receive. Pisses me off.

Reid thinks we have a good offense, or starts drinking before I do on game days

Psyko Tek 11-18-2013 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10201345)
I'm not all that bummed, crazy huh?

We could still look really swell in three weeks or so.

RED get some anger we easily could have won that, and where the **** where hali and houston, is Sutton calming the D down ?
are we being held that hard( yes Hali is) or wtf?

RunKC 11-18-2013 10:49 PM

Won't give Charles shit for that run, but I will give him shit for that dropped pass at the 5 yard line.

Holy shit that was just a brain fart and it cost us. He had 2 blockers in front of him. He catches that and it's an easy TD on the board.

Instead we only get a FG.

Breaker 11-19-2013 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10202221)
Their A game beat our B

That was Denver's B- game .... I hate to break it to you.

GOB 11-19-2013 02:52 AM

Some questionable coaching decisions as well.

Should have gone for it on 4th-and-1.

Should have gone for it on 4th-and 7.

Good write up on Grantland about this. Two additional plays could have netted us a minimum of 7 points, maybe up to 11 points. That's the game right there.

warrior 11-19-2013 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Breaker (Post 10204340)
That was Denver's B- game .... I hate to break it to you.




Keep talking Bronco boy we'll see you on the 1st of Dec

Three7s 11-19-2013 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10204052)
Won't give Charles shit for that run, but I will give him shit for that dropped pass at the 5 yard line.

Holy shit that was just a brain fart and it cost us. He had 2 blockers in front of him. He catches that and it's an easy TD on the board.

Instead we only get a FG.

Which one are you thinking of? 'Cause if it's the one I'm thinking of, Bowe got the TD two plays later.

MahiMike 11-19-2013 08:20 AM

"Why on Earth would we want to put the ball in the hands of the weakest unit of our team to start a game? Win the toss, defer and let your ****ing defense try to create some field position for you to start the game."

Agreed. I said the same thing at the time.

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Turning the ball over directly after creating a redzone opportunity for ourselves was the beginning of the end and none of us really knew it at the time."

Yep. We're not good enough to let that opportunity slip by. At the same time, I can't blame the FB for the fumble. That was a helluva hit. I'm always shocked these guys don't fumble more.

"Kicking an 18 yd FG in Denver, against Peyton Manning. Uhh, what? Who the **** does that?"

I disagree. Gotta take the points there. The bigger mistake was pinning our hopes on our OL to punch it in. They woulda got stuffed again.

"Demps totally had a read on the pass he jumped, and he should've taken that ball to the house. He flat out missed it, and it cost us"

Couldn't disagree more. Eric Davis said this on NFL AM and I thought he was blind. Sure he had a great read/jump on the ball but he never had a chance to touch the ball because the receiver had already grabbed it. Demps was 1 second too late.

"All in all, this game wasn't even close."

You just contradicted yourself. IF we had made just one of the plays you mentioned, it totally changes the game.

"I'm not jumping Marcus Cooper's shit"

I hear that. This kid is a gem.

Bottom line on why Denver won and why they'll beat the Patriots too. RECEIVERS. Even Tom Brady has to throw into double coverage to Gronk because he has no other option.

This is us too.

Dartgod 11-19-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 10201291)

Kicking an 18 yd FG in Denver, against Peyton Manning. Uhh, what? Who the **** does that? Take your ****ing chances and pound that ball up their asses for the 4th straight time! I was livid over that last night. I know in a lot of situations when you have a defense like ours, and more importantly an offense like ours, you have to take points anytime you can get them. Not against a goddamned record setting offense like Peyton's Broncos. You have to score TD's when you're inside the ****ing 5, and you have to be willing to do whatever it takes to get them. I would've rather flamed out right there, and at least went after it. We knew we were giving up more than 17 last night. My thoughts the whole week was to hold them under 30 and create some opportunities on offense. That one swing would've made the game 27-21 with 5 minutes left to play.

Don't forget, if Jeff Allen gets out where he should have been on the screen to Davis, it's an easy TD and we don't get stuffed at the goal line 3 times.

Buehler445 11-19-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10201672)
I hear you on the pass rush, but it was by design. KC rarely blitzed and routinely sent 4. The plan was to get pressure on Manning by only sending 4 and it didn't work as Denver always had more blockers. Once they knew it wasn't going to work. they should have sent more IMO. I think I heard them say that KC only blitzed 6 times the whole game...

I'd agree with this, and I agree with the strategy. We send guys, Manning finds the hole and the one who sucks the peniss run for days. I'm not in favor of that, particularly from a corner blitz, but all those goddamned passing yards Moreno has been getting are from dudes blitzing and Manning saying, "haw haw I seen you coming.":Broncos:

Really, our defense played a game that KC could win, even with no sacks. Offense didn't play a game KC could win. Hold Donks to 27 in their house, that's winnable. Score 17 at Donks, not winnable.

That being said, I wouldn't have minded a couple more blitzes up the middle.

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 10201909)
I'm not concerned about the push-offs. All receivers do that and they rarely get called. It would be nice if they would call the illegal picks that Denver constantly runs on offense. However, the league once changed the rules so that Manning could get a ring, so they aren't going to call those now.

I thought the coaches coached scared. They frequently only rushed three on defense and the dbs played off the receivers quite often instead of jamming them. Also, kicking the FG instead of going for the TD was timid. The thing that killed me was punting from the Denver 40 down by two TDs. I pretty much fast-forwarded the game after that because I knew it was over.

I don't mind the defensive strategy. Hell we held them to 27 in their house. That's winnable. And like I said above, you go after the ****er and Manning hits the hole and the one who sucks the peniss run for days. That's what Manning counts on. So we try to play cover up ball and force Manning to fit the ball into tighter windows. I like the strategy. I'm disappointed Hali and Houston didn't get to Manning and rip him apart like a German Shepherd shreds a rabbit, but I'm OK with the defensive gameplan.

As for the picks, I was surprised they didn't run more of them. I can't remember the game I watched but those cheating ****ers were running illegal picks like every third or fourth play. It was ridiculous. And it wasn't defensible either. The damn receiver would go find a corner back and throw a body on him like a ****ing basketball game. It was ****ing infuriating. This game, I can think of one down by the endzone, and that play where Flowers had to run like 5 yards extra to the sideline that gave Welker a first. I believe the one on Flowers was legal. I don't remember too many illegal picks (maybe I missed them, yelling at the TV about the Hali-Headlock), which surprised me because that's an excellent tool against man coverage.

Halfcan 11-19-2013 11:41 AM

Donks should be proud-they had to have the NFl fix the game for them and cheat every single second on offense to be able to beat us. But a win is a win guys-so Great job!

I am surprised they didn't break out the cooking spray like during their Super Bowl runs-hell they did everything else to cheat and win. Pushing off on Cooper for a TD, Holding on Bowe on a big 3rd down that could have made some big yards, holding our D every freakin play, illegal pick plays, they had the refs call a penalty every big play we had.

I would have to go back to the Faders of the 70's to find a team that cheats more than the Donks. They really are a DISGRACE to the sport. Donks are the real FRAUDS and the nfl is letting them do it for the money.

Karma is a bitch and it will come back on them.


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