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Eleazar 01-20-2014 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10381990)
Alex Smith has actually won in Seattle before, Kaepernick has been blown out twice and only came close in this playoff game. Put Alex Smith in that situation and I guarantee you he takes the out to VD or Patton to gain more yards and live another down or hits Boldin in the seam for a TD instead of trying to force it over a 6'3" corner who happens to be the best in the league at what he does.

Krap had just forced a throw over a DB who had good coverage, earlier in the game on the TD to Boldin.

I think everyone in the world thought "this'll be an INT" when he released the ball, but in that case the throw was absolutely perfect, so he got away with it.

But that pass could have easily been picked as well, and it was the same mistake - trying to get the ball to a receiver over a defender who is in position to make the play. Sure, it CAN work, but the throw has to be perfect, and you won't make a perfect throw every time. A man's got to know his limitations.

Ragged Robin 01-20-2014 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10382015)
I don't understand why the Niners didn't run more qb draws. The first half Kaep was moving the ball down the field with his feet. We didn't see that much in the second half.

His best runs come from broken down regular plays.

jkw87 01-20-2014 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10382161)
Krap had just forced a throw over a DB who had good coverage, earlier in the game on the TD to Boldin.

I think everyone in the world thought "this'll be an INT" when he released the ball, but in that case the throw was absolutely perfect, so he got away with it.

But that pass could have easily been picked as well, and it was the same mistake - trying to get the ball to a receiver over a defender who is in position to make the play. Sure, it CAN work, but the throw has to be perfect, and you won't make a perfect throw every time. A man's got to know his limitations.

Or he needs to be intelligent enough to read defenses and go through his progressions... Instead of reading one target and throwing into tight coverage regardless

OldSchool 01-20-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10382161)
Krap had just forced a throw over a DB who had good coverage, earlier in the game on the TD to Boldin.

I think everyone in the world thought "this'll be an INT" when he released the ball, but in that case the throw was absolutely perfect, so he got away with it.

But that pass could have easily been picked as well, and it was the same mistake - trying to get the ball to a receiver over a defender who is in position to make the play. Sure, it CAN work, but the throw has to be perfect, and you won't make a perfect throw every time. A man's got to know his limitations.

The throw was not perfect, lol, the defender just misplayed the ball. Thomas should have had an INT but he drifted a bit too far out of the play and so was only able to get his finger on the ball. It was a terrible decision by Kaep and he got extremely lucky.

Buehler445 01-20-2014 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10382161)
Krap had just forced a throw over a DB who had good coverage, earlier in the game on the TD to Boldin.

I think everyone in the world thought "this'll be an INT" when he released the ball, but in that case the throw was absolutely perfect, so he got away with it.

But that pass could have easily been picked as well, and it was the same mistake - trying to get the ball to a receiver over a defender who is in position to make the play. Sure, it CAN work, but the throw has to be perfect, and you won't make a perfect throw every time. A man's got to know his limitations.

I was thinking Harbaugh should have taken one of his two TO at :50 after the Davis first down and worked some shorter passes. Nope. Waste :20 and try to go yard for a pick. That's a pretty big coaching error IMO. Maybe he had a shorter read, but give kaep come time. The decision to throw is on Kaep and FFS throw it to the corner, but wasting 20 seconds and calling an end zone route is bad coaching.

OldSchool 01-20-2014 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 10382232)
I was thinking Harbaugh should have taken one of his two TO at :50 after the Davis first down and worked some shorter passes. Nope. Waste :20 and try to go yard for a pick. That's a pretty big coaching error IMO. Maybe he had a shorter read, but give kaep come time. The decision to throw is on Kaep and FFS throw it to the corner, but wasting 20 seconds and calling an end zone route is bad coaching.

That was all on Kaep. He predetermined that throw to Crabtree. That had absolutely nothing to do with the playcall as he had 3 open receivers to his left. Patton had an easy 6-10 yards as no one was within 10 yards of him, David had 4 yards of seperation on an out route, and Boldin had beaten his man in the seam for a sure TD. Kaep said it himself that he was throwing to Crabtree regardless of what was happening on the other side. When they asked him if anyone else was open, the only thing he said was that he would have to look at the tape.

OldSchool 01-20-2014 10:43 AM

Check out Peter King's article on Kaepernick in his Monday Morning QB blog. He is pretty spot on about Kaepernick and why he sucks as a QB.

Buehler445 01-20-2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10382248)
That was all on Kaep. He predetermined that throw to Crabtree. That had absolutely nothing to do with the playcall as he had 3 open receivers to his left. Patton had an easy 6-10 yards as no one was within 10 yards of him, David had 4 yards of seperation on an out route, and Boldin had beaten his man in the seam for a sure TD. Kaep said it himself that he was throwing to Crabtree regardless of what was happening on the other side. When they asked him if anyone else was open, the only thing he said was that he would have to look at the tape.

I think it is still on Harbitch to call a TO after the Davis first down.

O.city 01-20-2014 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10382267)
Check out Peter King's article on Kaepernick in his Monday Morning QB blog. He is pretty spot on about Kaepernick and why he sucks as a QB.

Cliff notes?

greatgooglymoogly 01-20-2014 10:53 AM

The Niners will be fine as long as Harbaugh stays. I have a feeling Michigan is going to throw a huge offer at him after next season, so I'll say they have at least one more good year.

GloryDayz 01-20-2014 10:56 AM

If he were to leave the franchise would have a challenge to overcome. That being said, they seem up to the challenge with their front office staff. Like the Broncos, they have a front office and coaching staff that's as good at their jobs as the players are at theirs. It's a thing of beauty actually.

Eleazar 01-20-2014 10:59 AM

Something I just thought of:

This year, the 49ers went out when Krapernick turned the ball over 3 times in the 4th quarter, including forcing the last pass to Crabtree when it wasn't there.

Last year, the 49ers lost the Super Bowl when inside the 5 yard line, he threw at Crabtree on three consecutive plays and all three were incomplete.

O.city 01-20-2014 11:00 AM

A few of us got blasted in the game thread last night for saying we woulnd't extend Kaep at this point until he learns to play from the pocket.

htismaqe 01-20-2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10382311)
Something I just thought of:

This year, the 49ers went out when Krapernick turned the ball over 3 times in the 4th quarter, including forcing the last pass to Crabtree when it wasn't there.

Last year, the 49ers lost the Super Bowl when inside the 5 yard line, he threw at Crabtree on three consecutive plays and all three were incomplete.

Rigged. Obviously.

GloryDayz 01-20-2014 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10382312)
A few of us got blasted in the game thread last night for saying we woulnd't extend Kaep at this point until he learns to play from the pocket.

He's certainly got some challenges to work through, but it's difficult for QB's to find the balance of staying in the pocket and scrambling. When you have the legs and moves that he has it's all the more difficult.


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