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I mocked-up the first 22 picks in the draft. You pick the 23rd. (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=281982)

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10472337)

He was never a great TE before all the injuries.

This team has already invested heavily on the defense. How many more picks are we going to throw away vs. coaching the guys we already have?

If a guy like Dee Ford is there, sure he has to be in consideration. But I'm not taking Hageman or Donald and HOPING they can give you what you need.

Donald is going to be a BAMF. He was a BAMF on tape at Pitt. He was a BAMF at the Senior Bowl. He was a BAMF at the combine.

He's just as much of a sure thing a Jace Amaro. He's a goddamn proven entity.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10472518)

That doesn't really have a position in this defense, or to put it another way - he's somewhat of a tweener and our defensive coordinator hasn't exactly proven to be the sharpest tool in the shed.

Just another thought about the TE position.
If our offense is trying to able to go down field more often then, why invest a 1st round into an intermediate type of playmaker? I understand that a TE will help pull coverage but, we are trying to get Alex to throw down field more often. It seems somewhat counter productive to give him an awesome target in the short to intermediate range while not having a legit deep threat yet expecting more success going down field.

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 10472538)

Expecting Alex to go downfield more is basically choosing the path of most resistance. Not to mention the fact that he showed he can be pretty damn efficient in the right situation. I think you should cater to him, not to try to force him to be something he's not.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10472546)

Knowing how coaches in the NFL are, and the fact Reid pressed him to be more aggressive id say they're trying to get him to be something he's not necessarily comfortable with.

Not that he can't so it, just hasn't.

Same reason I don't think TE will ever be a feature in a Reid offense

Clearly in that scenario we must trade up to get an OT!!

-said no one

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10472552)

Knowing how coaches in the NFL are, and the fact Reid pressed him to be more aggressive id say they're trying to get him to be something he's not necessarily comfortable with.

Not that he can't so it, just hasn't.

Same reason I don't think TE will ever be a feature in a Reid offense

http://www.nj.com/times-sports/index...nd_andy_r.html

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When Andy Reid thinks of the tight end position, his mind wanders back to his days in Green Bay as one of Mike Holmgren’s offensive assistants.

As the Packers emerged as a perennial playoff contender and eventual Super Bowl champion, the offense employed a two tight-end set at times that featured two Pro Bowl tight ends, Keith Jackson and Mark Chmura.

In the dozen years Reid has been the Eagles’ head coach, he has tried to duplicate that tight end tandem, most recently with Chad Lewis and L.J. Smith, but has never been able to get it quite right.

If he still has hopes of that double tight formation, along with wide receivers Jeremy Maclin and DeSean Jackson on the outside, there are two options – develop second-year man Clay Harbor, a fourth-round pick in 2009, to be the No. 2 opposite starter Brent Celek, or sign a viable tight end once free agency starts.

Should Reid and the Eagles opt for the second choice, the most likely target is Oakland’s Zach Miller, who caught 60 passes for 685 yards and five touchdowns last season.

Another possibility might be the Giants’ Kevin Boss, who had an impressive 15.2 yards per catch average last season, but had a case of the drops.

Oakland will likely try to keep Miller, but the Eagles have the money and wherewithal to get him if they choose.

In Celek, the Eagles have a Chmura-like player, who needs to get closer to the year he had in 2009, than the one he had last season.

Celek became the first Eagles tight end to have consecutive 100-yard games in 2009 since Pete Retzlaff did it in 1965.

That season, the 6-4, 255-pound Celek caught 76 passes for 971 yards and eight touchdowns.

All three of those statistics were the second best in Eagles’ history.

Last season, Celek’s numbers fell to 42 catches (18th best among tight ends in the league) for 511 yards (22nd best) and four touchdowns.

He did make some plays down the stretch, including a 65-yard touchdown in the comeback win over the Giants, and caught 10 passes in the loss to the Vikings.

I'm pretty sure history proves your thought about the TE position in Reid's offense is wrong. He didn't go out and sign Anthony Fasano, who was regarded as an unspectacular but solid all-around TE, and have Dorsey draft him an athletically gifted TE in the 3rd round for no reason. Reid has been trying to do what the Patriots did with Gronk and Hernandez for a long time. He just never was able to find the personnel required to execute it correctly.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10472552)

Knowing how coaches in the NFL are, and the fact Reid pressed him to be more aggressive id say they're trying to get him to be something he's not necessarily comfortable with.

Not that he can't so it, just hasn't.

Same reason I don't think TE will ever be a feature in a Reid offense

Except I posted an article a couple months ago with quotes from him describing his love for TE- including double TE sets.

Said his favorite offense he ran / schemed were back in his Green Bay days, when he was Tight Ends/Assistant Offensive Line coach when they won the Super Bowl and heavily used both Mark Chmura and Keith Jackson. He devised a lot of the plays that featured the TEs.

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10472592)

http://www.nj.com/times-sports/index...nd_andy_r.html

I'm pretty sure history proves your thought about the TE position in Reid's offense is wrong. He didn't go out and sign Anthony Fasano, who was regarded as an unspectacular but solid all-around TE, and have Dorsey draft him an athletically gifted TE in the 3rd round for no reason. Reid has been trying to do what the Patriots did with Gronk and Hernandez for a long time. He just never was able to find the personnel required to execute it correctly.

How timely- that's the article I posted here a few months ago and was just talking about.