you can't compare a 2015 NFL QB as a rookie to a 2005 NFL QB

it's ****ing hilariously stupid

the game has changed so much to favor the QB position and offense guys like Cam Newton and Andrew Luck and Andy Dalton and Russell Wilson etc... can walk in and shatter previous rookie records

Peyton Manning was the exception to the rule and he still put up a 26:28 ratio back in that era

Carr and Bridgewater had flashes last year, but coining either as "biblical ****ups" on our behalf after one season is hilariously stupid

Carr flashed exactly when?

Carr is going to be terrible. His organization certainly doesn't help.

Bridgewater? Maybe. I could see him being Matt Ryan good, tops, or totally flopping. Right now, I'll lean towards flop.

And it's about goddamned time.

Derek Carr had the 10th lowest YPA with 300 passes 1990 to present. 649 QB seasons of 300+ passes.

And 10 of his TDs were 4th Quarter. 5 of those were pure garbage.
such as
Trail 10-41
Trail 6-31
Trail 7-30
Trail 6-23
Trail 17-30 *under 2 min*

Yep. Thanks for doing that research for me. He was abysmal. His "stats" always came in garbage time.

It's HILARIOUS to me people were pining for him during last season.

Bridgewater? Sure. I can understand. He "flashed." I still don't think he turns out any better than Alex Smith but I could at least see it.

Carr? Ha. He was AWFUL. He flashed NOTHING.

Carr is a turd. Teddy we will have to wait and see on.

His best receiver was James Jones. Remember Jones? The guy who caught the pass in Oakland to make the score 24-20? Did you watch that game?

Those excuses only apply to 10 year vets that have Arrowheads on their helmets.

All the more reason why it is inexcusable for a 10 year vet not to be able to find a WR all year and have so many few big plays and TD's.

Who knows, maybe they made a bunch of moves in free agency so they could package picks to move up for a QB to develop.

According to draft value charts, it would cost us our second to move up to 11 if one of them gets there.

ok guys

feel free to bump this thread in 3 years when Bridgewater and ESPECIALLY Carr are thought of as good QB's

Carr has NO CHANCE

he's putrid