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Meatloaf 04-02-2015 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant (Post 11416093)
Hudson didn't fit what Andy wants in an OL? ****ing bullshit. He was such a bad fit that we tried to re-sign him.

Only thing that didn't fit with Hudson was his $$$ demands. As Reid said, Hudson was fortunate that he was pretty much the only good free agent center available. He hit the market at the right time......otherwise, I suspect he'd still be a Chief.

OnTheWarpath15 04-02-2015 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11416153)
The biggest boost to the line would be Fisher putting on his big boy pants and owning souls

Truth.

Hell, I'd be happy if he started playing like a 1st rounder.

Would be a bonus if he started playing like a #1 overall pick.

Saccopoo 04-02-2015 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11416155)
Hudson did an awesome job no doubt. But I think there's a reason Allen and Stephenson went to get bigger and stronger?

I think Andy likes the power scheme type OL who can be athletic like the zone blocking guys. IIRC Sorter said we played some zone.

I think that last year was so catastrophic bc Reid had big plans for Allen and Stepehenson to get bigger to be more like "maulers" but keeping that athleticism.

Stephenson's combine numbers were one of the best, if not the best, I've ever seen from an offensive lineman. 4.94 40. 35.5" vertical at 6'6", 312 lb. Insane. He has good feet and comes up and out from his stance extremely fast.

The one thing that was a legitimate criticism was his lack of functional playing strength. He was not strong like bull. It's obvious why he dipped into the PED's which led to his suspension. If he can get to the point where he's weight trained himself into his natural athleticism, I think he can be one of the better tackles in the league.

If not...eh.

Allen was primarily viewed as a career backup OL guy at four positions. Valuable to a team, but I've never seen him as a starter in the league. He doesn't have the athleticism to be a edge protector or the strength to function effectively in the box. However, he can play either guard or tackle position and gives the team a security blanket for the entire line.

Personally, I could see them going offensive tackle in the first and then an interior guy in the third.

If La'el Collins is there, it's not a bad pick, though I doubt he's going to be available.

As I stated in Draft Planet, I think that Oregon's Jake Fisher is one of the most viable options for the Chiefs in the first round. He fit's Dorsey's profile to a "T" and is a nasty ****er on the field.

Don't be too surprised if his name is read on Draft day when the Chiefs pick.

If that doesn't jibe with you, you better start hoping to hell that this team gets Stephenson the Balco vitamin regime or gets Derek Sherrod's head back into football. Otherwise, there is a definite possibility of having Fisher bookends come opening game 2015.

RunKC 04-02-2015 06:29 PM

Sac, how do you feel about DJ Humphries? If we pick OL at 18 I would want him.

Mr. Laz 04-02-2015 06:41 PM

Trade down and hopefully get another 2nd

1st Rd - OLB/S Shaq Thompson

Can fill Eric Berry or Derrick Johnson spot


2nd Rd - Best WR
2nd Rd - Best OL or CB

let the freak out begin LMAO

BossChief 04-02-2015 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11416204)
Trade down and hopefully get another

OLB/S Shaq Thompson

Can fill Eric Berry or Derrick Johnson


2nd - Best WR
2nd - Best OL or CB

let the freak out begin LMAO

Ya know....that guy has a nearly unlimited ceiling if he can land somewhere with a coaching staff that knows how to utilize his talents.

Mr Versatility.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-02-2015 06:47 PM

Every player named "Shaq" gets overrated.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-02-2015 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11415905)
Most teams that spent two 3rds, two 2nds, and the #1 overall pick on OL from 2010-2013 wouldn't be in the position we're in right now.

That doesn't mean we didn't invest high enough picks. It means we suck at drafting that position.

But at some point you can't keep burning picks on the same position group over and over again. You have to keep your options open. It's like when the Chiefs wasted a fart ton of high draft picks in the 2000s trying to find just ONE DT worth a measly ****. Wanna know why our drafts sucked so much? Because a position we had no clue how to judge talent for was our central goal every ****ing time we tried to draft somebody.

Damn, the Chiefs are smarter than I thought then. This clearly explains the lack of high round QB's and why they should probably continue to stay away.

Mr. Laz 04-02-2015 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11416212)
Ya know....that guy has a nearly unlimited ceiling if he can land somewhere with a coaching staff that knows how to utilize his talents.

Mr Versatility.

Sutton loves throwing a bunch of safeties out there at the same time

Thompson would be great for that

DaneMcCloud 04-02-2015 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11414677)
If Mariota is there at 18 you wouldn't take him?

Personaly, I think that Petty has the highest ceiling in this class and if the Chiefs took him in the first, I wouldn't complain because there's so much WR depth and even offensive line depth.

He would be a steal for the Chiefs in the second, IMO.

DaneMcCloud 04-02-2015 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11414721)
Dorial

:Lin:

Why would anyone advocate taking a poor route runner that hasn't played football in two years, when so many other WCO WR's that could contribute immediately are available?

If DGB played at freaking Clemson, no one on Chiefslpanet would have heard of him, let alone, advocate for him.

milkman 04-02-2015 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11415856)
Lets start with the Champs.

A 1st and 2nd, (both tackles) then a 4th, 5th and UDFA as starters.

Packers? I mean, a good QB needs all 1st rounders to be successful, right?

Only one starter drafted before the FOURTH round.

I'm not going to spend all day doing this so you can point to Dallas and say "I told you so".

I wish someone had the time, but I'd bet anything that league wide, there are more late round starters playing OL than any other position group.

The reality is that we don't have Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, or even Russel Wilson.

Hell, just name about any of the playoff QBs last year.

We have Alex Smith.
He's not elite, and the only way he reaches 2nd tier status is if you provide him with the very best protection you can.

He can be highly efficient if you do, and we, as a fanbase, have to hope to hell that highly efficient is good enough.

milkman 04-02-2015 07:13 PM

I've said it before.
Marcus Marriota looks like the next Alex Smith.

I'll pass.

OnTheWarpath15 04-02-2015 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11416249)
The reality is that we don't have Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, or even Russel Wilson.

Hell, just name about any of the playoff QBs last year.

We have Alex Smith.
He's not elite, and the only way he reaches 2nd tier status is if you provide him with the very best protection you can.

He can be highly efficient if you do, and we, as a fanbase, have to hope to hell that highly efficient is good enough.

But by the time these newly drafted OL are hitting their prime, hopefully Alex is gone.

We should be drafting for the future, not for the next two years.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-02-2015 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11416253)
But by the time these newly drafted OL are hitting their prime, hopefully Alex is gone.

We should be drafting for the future, not for the next two years.

Zach Martin


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