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DaneMcCloud 12-27-2016 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12645427)
I don't buy it. No way a rookie guard is the difference between Jamaal Charles production and Knile Davis production.

There has to be something else as well.

Maybe if you watched the Chiefs games on something other than a shitty stream on a shitty screen, you'd recognize issue better.

ThaVirus 12-27-2016 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12645462)
Maybe if you watched the Chiefs games on something other than a shitty stream on a shitty screen, you'd recognize issue better.


A prime Will Shields wouldn't account for a 2.6 YPC swing.

No.

Not buying it.

DaneMcCloud 12-27-2016 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12645478)
A prime Will Shields wouldn't account for a 2.6 YPC swing.

No.

Not buying it.

That's because you don't know what you're ****ing watching.

O.city 12-27-2016 09:09 PM

I think it's a combination of the guards and the backs. Moreso the backs.

They both look beat up and slow for alot of the year.

Buzz 12-27-2016 09:11 PM

Did they just not say Alex had the quickest release in the league, 2.25 sec? I thought I heard that during the game?

DaneMcCloud 12-27-2016 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12645486)
I think it's a combination of the guards and the backs. Moreso the backs.

They both look beat up and slow for alot of the year.

Fulton can't open holes without help.

West hasn't been fully healthy until now, as he's battled injuries since training camp.

Easy 6 12-27-2016 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12645461)
Well, you and the others are wrong.

Ehinger was struggling in Pass Pro but was far more athletic than Fulton on running plays, often helping to create space.

Fulton is okay in Pass Pro but sucks run blocking. Morse bailed his ass out several times on Sunday.

You just wanna get me these days, dontcha Dane?

We can both split stats galore, but the truth is that no damn rookie guard accounts for all of our running game troubles

C'mon man, no matter how good he may have been, or how much he was overlooked here because of his rookie status (it wasnt by me)... no rookie guard is the main cause of of a top back dropping to 3 yards or less a carry

You used to be one of the Four ****ing Horsemen of the Apocalypse for crying out loud, and now you're telling us that a rookie guard is responsible for Ware going from 4-5 ypc to 3 or less ypc for the last 6 games or so?

You're swerving hard right these days, what happened to the Dane that didnt flinch from honest takes?

Damn man, this O line is usually SOFT on run blocking, what else do you need to see to agree with that, at least to some extent?

DaneMcCloud 12-27-2016 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12645495)
You just wanna get me these days, dontcha Dane?

We can both split stats galore, but the truth is that no damn rookie guard accounts for all of our running game troubles

C'mon man, no matter how good he may have been, or how much he was overlooked here because of his rookie status (it wasnt by me)... no rookie guard is the main cause of of a top back dropping to 3 yards or less a carry

You used to be one of the Four ****ing Horsemen of the Apocalypse for crying out loud, and now you're telling us that a rookie guard is responsible for Ware going from 4-5 ypc to 3 or less ypc for the last 6 games or so?

You're swerving hard right these days, what happened to the Dane that didnt flinch from honest takes?

Damn man, this O line is usually SOFT on run blocking, what else do you need to see to agree with that, at least to some extent?

You're not isolating or watching jackshit.

I am and have been detailing the issues all season long.

My opinion wasn't formed overnight.

ThaVirus 12-27-2016 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12645495)
You just wanna get me these days, dontcha Dane?



We can both split stats galore, but the truth is that no damn rookie guard accounts for all of our running game troubles



C'mon man, no matter how good he may have been, or how much he was overlooked here because of his rookie status (it wasnt by me)... no rookie guard is the main cause of of a top back dropping to 3 yards or less a carry



You used to be one of the Four ****ing Horsemen of the Apocalypse for crying out loud, and now you're telling us that a rookie guard is responsible for Ware going from 4-5 ypc to 3 or less ypc for the last 6 games or so?



You're swerving hard right these days, what happened to the Dane that didnt flinch from honest takes?



Damn man, this O line is usually SOFT on run blocking, what else do you need to see to agree with that, at least to some extent?


This.

I'm sorry but no, Dane. Just no.

Sorter 12-27-2016 09:51 PM

I haven't watched anything in A22 for a while this year but it seems we're running quite a bit more power concepts off the left side (pulling the Canadian).

DaneMcCloud 12-27-2016 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12645521)
This.

I'm sorry but no, Dane. Just no.

Wrong, as usual.

Merry Christmas.

ThaVirus 12-27-2016 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12645547)
Wrong, as usual.



Merry Christmas.


Merry Christmas, bro.

DaneMcCloud 12-27-2016 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 12645540)
I haven't watched anything in A22 for a while this year but it seems we're running quite a bit more power concepts off the left side (pulling the Canadian).

They're pulling Morse left as well because Fulton can't stand his ground.

If these people would actually RE-WATCH games and just focus on a single player, I'd like to think they'd see something different.

It's just like when a shitload of people said "Schwartz has been great!" without charting each play in the first Denver game, in which he was butt****ed by Shaq Barrett and Von Miller.

It's ****ing CP at its finest.

Easy 6 12-27-2016 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12645497)
You're not isolating or watching jackshit.

I am and have been detailing the issues all season long.

My opinion wasn't formed overnight.

You and I have hit a rough patch recently, but you absolutely cannot tell me I didnt isolate O line players to watch... every offensive play I watched started with focusing in on an individual lineman

Which position varied play by play, but I do watch very closely, Dane... c'mon man, dont go there, plenty of us watch the details, you're not the only one

DaneMcCloud 12-27-2016 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12645554)
You and I have hit a rough patch recently, but you absolutely cannot tell me I didnt isolate O line players to watch... every offensive play I watched started with focusing in on an individual lineman

Which position varied play by play, but I do watch very closely, Dane... c'mon man, dont go there, plenty of us watch the details, you're not the only one

Then you're doing it wrong


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