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Opoponax 12-27-2016 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 12644697)
Potentially going 12-4, sweeping the division, and still getting stuck with a road Wild Card game is a bitter feeling. I've always hoped the NFL would give the team with the better record the home wild card game. No reason an 8-8 team from a terrible division deserves to play at home against a team that's 13-3 and lost their division to a 14-2 team. They can still keep everything else the same.

Yeah, but if they did that then there may as well not be divisions. Maybe there's an argument to be made for that though. That is, get rid of the divisions and simply go by record alone. The top two teams get the bye, the next two teams with the best records get the home wildcard game, etc.

This Sunday, the Steelers don't have to worry about anything, win or lose. They can rest everyone and finish with a worse record than Miami. And Miami doesn't have anything to play for either. But without the current structure they'd both have to put out maximum effort because it would be the difference between a road playoff game and a home one.

The Texans, who have clinched, may also be in that mix under pure record system. And with the Phins fighting for a home spot, the Patriots would also have to fight too because if they lose and the Raiders win, the Raiders get the #1 seed (I think).

The regular season rivalries would be rendered meaningless though, so I guess how one feels about it would depend on how much they value the history between teams.

It's an interesting idea, but one that's not going to happen.

TEX 12-27-2016 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12644700)
yeah, it's ****ed up..

So is losing a very winnable home game to the Titans.

RINGLEADER 12-27-2016 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 12644748)
So is losing a very winnable home game to the Titans.

In the grand scheme I know it all evens out and there are games like the Chargers game and Falcons game we had no business winning yet did. That said, the Titans game in particular was just an absolute blown opportunity that was 75% Andy, 20% DAT, and 5% Alex.

munkey 12-27-2016 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 12644645)
Anyone who thinks the Raiders will win needs to pay more attention to the flow of the season.

There is absolutely zero chance they win after what KC did to Denver, and I would be surprised if it's even close.

If the Raiders score 10 points I will be surprised.

Totally agree...the fans on OM are wanting them to basically throw the game..lol

Earthling 12-27-2016 01:00 PM

Vegas favors Denver by 3.

jjchieffan 12-27-2016 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Opoponax (Post 12644746)
Yeah, but if they did that then there may as well not be divisions. Maybe there's an argument to be made for that though. That is, get rid of the divisions and simply go by record alone. The top two teams get the bye, the next two teams with the best records get the home wildcard game, etc.

This Sunday, the Steelers don't have to worry about anything, win or lose. They can rest everyone and finish with a worse record than Miami. And Miami doesn't have anything to play for either. But without the current structure they'd both have to put out maximum effort because it would be the difference between a road playoff game and a home one.

The Texans, who have clinched, may also be in that mix under pure record system. And with the Phins fighting for a home spot, the Patriots would also have to fight too because if they lose and the Raiders win, the Raiders get the #1 seed (I think).

The regular season rivalries would be rendered meaningless though, so I guess how one feels about it would depend on how much they value the history between teams.

It's an interesting idea, but one that's not going to happen.

I have always failed to comprehend this logic. Why would the playoff seeding system render rivalries obsolete? The teams will still face each other home and away every year.

TEX 12-27-2016 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by munkey (Post 12644761)
Totally agree...the fans on OM are wanting them to basically throw the game..lol

Not surprised - they're all idiots. Chiefs kicked our asses and rubbed it in our faces with Poe, so lets throw the game to **** them out of the division title. ROFL

Snica 12-27-2016 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12644786)
I have always failed to comprehend this logic. Why would the playoff seeding system render rivalries obsolete? The teams will still face each other home and away every year.

exactly. The only change that needs made is home games are based on record in the WC round. Sorry but if you win your division with only 8, 9 or even 10 wins, you shouldn't be gifted a home game. Shit, you shouldn't be gifted for anything winning a shitty division.

ptlyon 12-27-2016 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 12644846)
Not surprised - they're all idiots. Chiefs kicked our asses and rubbed it in our faces with Poe, so lets throw the game to **** them out of the division title. ROFL

I, for one, believe they will

Snica 12-27-2016 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 12644860)
I, for one, believe they will

Sucks for them because regardless what they do, they end up helping a division rival. Damned if they do and damned if they don't.

tk13 12-27-2016 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12644786)
I have always failed to comprehend this logic. Why would the playoff seeding system render rivalries obsolete? The teams will still face each other home and away every year.

I don't know if it'd render them obsolete but it'd definitely make them less important. Just look at this weekend... it makes the Chiefs/Raiders rivalry the difference between a bye and a first round road game. There's a lot on the line.

I like the system the way it is though. There's no way to make it fair because not everyone plays the same schedule. The first year you change it, somebody is going to complain because Team X had to play the AFC West and Team Y got a home game because they played the terrible AFC South. There's always going to be a flaw... so I like setting it so that division rivalries determine home games.

RippedmyFlesh 12-27-2016 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Snica (Post 12644866)
Sucks for them because regardless what they do, they end up helping a division rival. Damned if they do and damned if they don't.

I love we put them in that spot.

tk13 12-27-2016 02:14 PM

With these two starting QBs in the Oakland/Denver game... I'm not sure we really know what to expect. I don't think Denver will mail it in, but will they be really focused after such a letdown? Lynch will play hard though, for sure... it may make a difference between Lynch getting the job next year or Elway going out and bringing in a veteran.

ptlyon 12-27-2016 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Snica (Post 12644866)
Sucks for them because regardless what they do, they end up helping a division rival. Damned if they do and damned if they don't.

They benefit more if they lose rather than win. Besides all of the Donx will be hungover after going out on NYE and getting smashed and shooting people.

TEX 12-27-2016 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 12644860)
I, for one, believe they will

It won't be for that purpose though. It will be to get a better draft position and because they don't give a shit. But I think Denver is so terrible now, they would lose regardless of if they tried or not. They are simply a bad football team.


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