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Bufkin 04-10-2018 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 13510639)
Very impressed with Junis so far. I wouldn't compare him to Greinke at all. Greinke could overpower people with his stuff. That's not Junis. More of a thinking, outsmart your opponent pitcher. Seems to follow more in the footsteps of a Greg Maddux (not comparing him directly to him) type . . . .

Certainly not a valid comparison in terms of how they pitch, but more the end result. I’ll let him duplicate his dominance a few more times, and until then I’ll go with 2017 Jason Vargas. Either way, it’s fun to watch.

TomBarndtsTwin 04-10-2018 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 13510662)
Certainly not a valid comparison in terms of how they pitch, but more the end result. I’ll let him duplicate his dominance a few more times, and until then I’ll go with 2017 Jason Vargas. Either way, it’s fun to watch.

This, with regards to Maddux comparison.

Junis doesn't overpower people like Greinke did. That was more my point.

Chiefspants 04-10-2018 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 13510639)
Very impressed with Junis so far. I wouldn't compare him to Greinke at all. Greinke could overpower people with his stuff. That's not Junis. More of a thinking, outsmart your opponent pitcher. Seems to follow more in the footsteps of a Greg Maddux (not comparing him directly to him) type . . . .

Current Greinke is actually a lot more like Maddux than 09 Greinke was. He's still one of my favorite pitchers to watch in the game today.

PunkinDrublic 04-10-2018 10:12 AM

So if Junis is pitching like this at the deadline, what kind of return could we get for him?

BWillie 04-10-2018 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 13510452)
If you don’t think Sweeney was good you’re a ****ing reerun.

And speaking of good, how about this Jake Junis? If he does this for another few games I’ll start the 2009 Zack Greinke comparisons.

Pump the brakes. Likely a #3 starter, maybe, maybe #2.

Not many guys dominate with a 91 mph FB and a 87 MPH slider. Corey Kluber is the exception.

BWillie 04-10-2018 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 13510821)
So if Junis is pitching like this at the deadline, what kind of return could we get for him?

He's so young that you keep him. Hope he's at peak when this team has a chance to be good in 4 years.

PunkinDrublic 04-10-2018 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13510833)
He's so young that you keep him. Hope he's at peak when this team has a chance to be good in 4 years.

Do you think it’s possible the Royals will be good again? Do we have enough legit prospects in our system? I honestly don’t know.

Ebolapox 04-10-2018 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 13510842)
Do you think it’s possible the Royals will be good again? ...I honestly don’t know.

like, ever again? ever ever again? man, I dunno, we'll just literally suck forever.

PunkinDrublic 04-10-2018 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 13510849)
like, ever again? ever ever again? man, I dunno, we'll just literally suck forever.

It’s hard to bitch when you’ve seen them win two World Series in your lifetime but it would be nice to see them compete and consistently make the postseason every couple of years.

tk13 04-10-2018 11:32 AM

If Duffy can get right and you get good Kennedy along with Junis. That's three decent starters. Pair that with a bullpen that's not putting Maurer in pressure situations and you probably have a competitive team right there.

Ebolapox 04-10-2018 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 13510887)
It’s hard to bitch when you’ve seen them win two World Series in your lifetime but it would be nice to see them compete and consistently make the postseason every couple of years.

I think the reality of MLB and the current structure of revenue sharing/how teams are built these days stacks against the royals being great consistently. I think they need to be close to perfect while larger markets have a much larger margin of error.

duncan_idaho 04-10-2018 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 13510842)
Do you think it’s possible the Royals will be good again? Do we have enough legit prospects in our system? I honestly don’t know.


The Royals will be good again. It’s just a mater of when, and whether it will be with Moore and co.

They have a nice group of players at the A and high-A levels that you can dream on (1B Nick Pratto, C MJ Melendez, of Seuly Matias, Of Khalil Lee - whom Moore calls the most talented all-around player they’ve drafted since Hosmer - 3M Emmanuel Rivera, OF Michael Gigliotti, Of Marten Gasparini, SS Jeison Guzman).

If they do well in this draft and can add some pitching star power to that group, you start to build a wave that people can get excited about. They’ve got HS heavy the past few drafts... adding some polished college prospects to this grouping would seem to make sense.

DeepSouth 04-10-2018 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13511047)
The Royals will be good again. It’s just a mater of when, and whether it will be with Moore and co.

They have a nice group of players at the A and high-A levels that you can dream on (1B Nick Pratto, C MJ Melendez, of Seuly Matias, Of Khalil Lee - whom Moore calls the most talented all-around player they’ve drafted since Hosmer - 3M Emmanuel Rivera, OF Michael Gigliotti, Of Marten Gasparini, SS Jeison Guzman).

If they do well in this draft and can add some pitching star power to that group, you start to build a wave that people can get excited about. They’ve got HS heavy the past few drafts... adding some polished college prospects to this grouping would seem to make sense.

I'm hoping the Royals will be competitive a lot quicker than people think. And, I think it will be based on very solid starting pitching. Right now, they have Duffy and Junis for several years.

If Skoglund does well, that's three of the five starters for years.

Hoping Kennedy and Hammel pitch well in the first half and are gone at the trade deadline.

They are replaced in the rotation by Kellar. Great article on Kellar here;
https://kingsofkauffman.com/2018/04/...d-brad-keller/

And, Trevor Oaks. Great article on Oaks here;
https://kingsofkauffman.com/2018/01/...s-erick-mejia/

Your starting five are all tied up for years.

You build your bullpen around Karns, Hill, and Lovelady.

I'm optimistic.

Pitt Gorilla 04-10-2018 02:35 PM

It's good that the Royals didn't get completely boned regarding competitive balance picks (again).

siberian khatru 04-10-2018 02:43 PM

A new era dawns:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Royals have activated Abraham Almonte and placed Alex Gordon on the disabled list.</p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/983805166729203712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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