Well, it's not even close to the worst OL now, so who cares about before?

Yep. Raiders game will not be a gimme. And it could be an important game for both teams.

Why people act like KC should roll the Raiders on the road is beyond me. That's a much better team than their record.

But that never happens to the other teams? You expect Buffalo to win out and everyone else to take care of business and KC to **** it up even though ALL the evidence the last 4 years says otherwise?

Alrighty.

I didn't say it doesn't happen to other teams.

Considering Mahomes is something like 27-2 in the past few seasons in Nov/Dec/Jan regular season games and both losses were to the Bengals, notbsure why we'd predict a bad loss. And IIRC, the only other one going back to like 2019 was to the Titans.

They've obviously had some surprises no one saw coming, like the 2nd half of the AFCCG, but losing yesterday doesn't mean shit for running the table against that dumpster fire list of teams.

It's the nature of this part of the season but I hate scoreboard watching. I'd feel a lot more comfortable controlling our own destiny.

The Bills SHOULD lose at least 1 more game.
The Chiefs SHOULD run the table.

The AFC Playoffs are going to be a dogfight, regardless of where we are seeded.

Should can be a BIG word.

I can see dropping 1 to a team like the Raiders at the end of the season. I'd be okay with 13-4. But feel like we will be going into the playoffs with a 16-1 offense paired with a 9-8 defense.

We need a new voice on D and some players that are mean. Other defensive players seem to always make sure they hit every tackle with the intention of making sure the opposing offensive player has the hit in his mind the next time.

Chiefs D barely hits them hard enough to tackle them and it shows.

Good writeup Meck. Hard to disagree with much.

I ****ing hate losing, but I'm strangely fine, here. Mahomes has calmed a shitload of my anxiety.

Here's the thing, I'm under no dumbass idea that we need to win the super bowl every year. I have to park that side of my brain, because it isn't happening. Even Brady who cheated incessantly, was the NFL darling, and invariably got a shitton of calls because large market and they had a 10 year drought. It will suck, but we're going to miss some super bowls. But my objective is to enjoy Mahomes, and if we accomplish shit, enjoy that too, because Mahomes is the best there has ever been. I'm here to enjoy it.

Viewing the world from that perspective, yeah this one sucked, but I'm strangely fine. Don't get me wrong we needed this one. Needed it for seeding. Really needed the bye. Needed it for our confidence, just to know we could house them. There's no hiding it. We needed it and they took it from us.

But here's the thing, this one falls into the margins of "football". If you look at these teams on paper and their performance, they're good. If you line these up 100 times it's probably 60/40 Chiefs I'd guess. Maybe 50/50 in Cinci. We lost this one, and they played well. They were ready. They played well largely. Couple shit ref calls, a couple missed reads, couple dumbass plays, probably 10-15 plays that went their way that could have flipped the game.

But they had a few too. If we pulled it out, their message boards sound like ours. "Why didn't we run Perine more?" "Catch the MOTHER****ING BALL." "OL played well enough to win" "Our DL sucks, why can't we get to Mahomes" "Who is this Pacheco mother****er, we suck so much if we're going to let a JAG run all over us?" "WTF was Joe doing on that ****ing pick?" "Refs won't call holding." "Their DBs are holding all day long."

So longwinded way of saying that it is a close game of 2 teams that are close to each other.

And that's fine with me. It isn't great that both the top of the AFC teams beat us. But similar deal. Buffalo BLEW US OUT last year and we beat them in the playoffs. The inexplicable shit pisses me off way more, like the butt****ing Colts game. If we line up 100 times with the Colts, no way they win more than 10 of those matchups, right? MAYBE 5. Those pisses me right the **** off more than this one.

Sometimes you don't get the bounces. But we're right there with them. And that's about all I can ask. And is it the worst thing in the world to potentially have to go rip these ****s souls out in their place in the playoffs?

It sucks, we have shit to fix, but we aren't winning them all. I'm here for the Mahomes.

It's almost like....we're starting a bunch of rookies on that defense. Anyone who didn't think that this year was a retooling year and was going to be a little more tough....wasn't being honest with themselves.

It's week 13. Enough with the rookie shit.

I’m with you on this. We’ve gone back to being lunch pail. When HB was actually trying he was a terrific leader. We need someone in our back 7 to be our swagger guy.

Oh **** off. Our CBs, outside of Sneed and McDuffie, are a 4th round small school pick and a 7th rounder.

If you want to blame anything on this defense...blame the defensive line.

I noticed him whiff a couple tackles yesterday. That's about it.

Anyone who thinks KC will get to week 18 against the Raiders with the #1 seed on the line and lose to them needs to get their head examined.