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kccrow 11-06-2023 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17205293)
That list is referring to the other Wilson, "Roman" from Michigan. Sorry for not including first names in the second half.

Where do you think Jonny Wilson stacks up as a TE in this year's class?

Roman Wilson in the top 10 WRs? That's rich. He's a very linear athlete and doesn't really do alot of damage outside of downfield plays. He's like a smaller version of MVS to me... Anyhow...

Jonny Wilson, it kind of depends on 1) does he have the mindset that he has to be a WR or would he be willing to play TE and 2) how is his blocking? I don't really know those answers all that well. Based on what I do know, probably would fit in behind Bowers and Sanders for me as a late 2 guy.

One guy I really like is Gavin Bartholomew out of Pitt but I wonder if he'd declare as a Junior. Not many Pitt guys leave early. If he does, he'd be the guy I'd pound the table for in the 3rd because of age and package of abilities.

I really wish Bryson Nesbit had a thicker frame. He may not declare either though Maye leaving could push him to go.

I love Stover but I wonder if age will be a factor for Veach with him.

I also like Yurosek a bunch but he's another Junior and he's having an a bit of a down year so we'll see what he does. More of a Noah Gray type.

O.city 11-06-2023 03:52 PM

Nabers is the guy I'd like.

But just no chance he gets to us.

Couch-Potato 11-06-2023 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17213557)
Roman Wilson in the top 10 WRs? That's rich. He's a very linear athlete and doesn't really do alot of damage outside of downfield plays. He's like a smaller version of MVS to me... Anyhow...

Jonny Wilson, it kind of depends on 1) does he have the mindset that he has to be a WR or would he be willing to play TE and 2) how is his blocking? I don't really know those answers all that well. Based on what I do know, probably would fit in behind Bowers and Sanders for me as a late 2 guy.

One guy I really like is Gavin Bartholomew out of Pitt but I wonder if he'd declare as a Junior. Not many Pitt guys leave early. If he does, he'd be the guy I'd pound the table for in the 3rd because of age and package of abilities.

I really wish Bryson Nesbit had a thicker frame. He may not declare either though Maye leaving could push him to go.

I love Stover but I wonder if age will be a factor for Veach with him.

I also like Yurosek a bunch but he's another Junior and he's having an a bit of a down year so we'll see what he does. More of a Noah Gray type.

I liked Brevyn Spann-Ford last year:

"TE Brevyn Span Ford, Minnesota, 6-7 254 lbs

Holy shit! This guy lives to plow linebackers! I saw him referred to as a "3rd Tackle out there." But he doesn't just truck mother ****ers all day, this guys got serious hands too! "Soft hands" even, and a "playmaker." His highlight real starts with a pretty amazing circus catch for a guy his size, another real I watched highlighted him as a big hitter demolishing LBs. At 6-7 with ~500 yards I'm guessing he'd make a great Red Zone target, or at least he'd move a guy or two out of the way for Pacheco! I've seen him going as high as the 3rd, ranked as a top 10 TE, but others like ESPN doesn't even rank him."

Couch-Potato 11-06-2023 08:09 PM

I see a lot of folks mocking Adanai Mitchell to us, thoughts?

Couch-Potato 11-06-2023 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17213557)
Jonny Wilson, it kind of depends on 1) does he have the mindset that he has to be a WR or would he be willing to play TE and 2) how is his blocking? I don't really know those answers all that well. Based on what I do know, probably would fit in behind Bowers and Sanders for me as a late 2 guy.

SCOUTING REPORT: STRENGTHS
Elite "catch radius" with a formidable blend of frame and wingspan; capitalizes on mismatches, especially in red-zone situations.
"High-point" specialist with unmatched vertical prowess; his stride frequency paired with long strides translates to undeniable deep-ball threat capability.
Dynamic "RAC" (Run After Catch) asset; exhibits short-area burst and twitch, making him a nightmare for defenders in open space.
Elite athletic skills -- Made Bruce Feldman's 2023 'Freaks List' at number 28. He wrote: "At almost 6 feet 7, 239 pounds, he has 36-inch arms, 10 1/4 inch hands and a standing reach of 8-10. He also has a 35.5 inch vertical and a 10-5 broad jump. In games, he’s topped out at 21.23 MPH with a max acceleration of 5.26 m/s and has a max deceleration of -7.21 m/s."
Balances like a "bell-cow back"; his contact balance and drive consistently see him power through arm tackles and churn extra yards.
Master of the aerial game; whether stretching the field or toe-tapping on the sideline, he shows elite spatial awareness and ball skills.
"Contested-catch" maestro; his ability to adjust mid-air, combined with his frame, makes him the go-to target on 50/50 balls.
Deceptive and agile at stem breaks; uses his overwhelming length to shed press coverage and create windows of separation.
Relentless in the blocking game; harnesses his physical gifts with an understanding of leverage, often pancaking DBs to spring big plays.

Sounds good.

Abba-Dabba 11-07-2023 08:47 AM

Ja'Lynn Polk keeps climbing up the boards. Looking like a solid day 2 prospect right now.

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Abba-Dabba 11-07-2023 08:54 AM

Another WR not mentioned much around here is Tre Harris. Great size, speed and route running. Probable day 3 guy.

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Abba-Dabba 11-07-2023 08:59 AM

Ainias Smith. Twitchy fella that would work well on ST day 1.

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kccrow 11-07-2023 10:07 PM

Those twitchy fellas, most of the time, end up injury-riddled in the NFL. I try not to get too caught up with it.

I never seem to learn my lesson with linear speed though, for whatever reason.

Acceleration, enough agility to create crisp route breaks, and hands... that seems to always be a winning combination. I'll be damned if I don't lose sight of it constantly though. Precisely the reason I think Emeka Egbuka is going to be an absolute stud but can he get within our range to move up...

CoMoChief 11-08-2023 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba (Post 17214483)
Ainias Smith. Twitchy fella that would work well on ST day 1.

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His knees are gonna explode.

CoMoChief 11-08-2023 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba (Post 17214483)
Ainias Smith. Twitchy fella that would work well on ST day 1.

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His knees and achilles are gonna explode.

Couch-Potato 11-08-2023 08:07 AM

ESPN Draft Risers:

Ja'Lynn Polk, WR, Washington

Polk didn't make my initial scouting list this season, but the fourth-year redshirt sophomore is a physical, aggressive wideout at 6-foot-2 and 204 pounds. He bounces off contact and consistently runs through tacklers. He has 51 catches for 888 yards this season, and after catching his eighth TD on Saturday against USC, Polk will now crack my top 75.

Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan

Wilson was a big mover for me when I put together my recent top 50 board (No. 49), and he justified it on Saturday with a nine-catch, 143-yard day against Purdue. Wilson has been red-hot this season (10 touchdowns), and it's easy to fall in love with his burst and elite speed as a vertical route runner at 6 feet and 192 pounds. He looks like a lock to be a second-round draft choice.

Notes:

• Texas' Xavier Worthy is mentioned often as a late first-rounder, and the junior wideout is one of the most improved players I've seen this season. After a sophomore campaign that saw him drop 10 passes and catch just 52.6% of his targets over 13 games, Worthy boosted those numbers in 2023 -- he has five drops this season, and his reception rate is 64.5%. His effort is noticeably better on tape this year, and Worthy has a chance to enter the top 20 for teams needing a vertical receiver thanks to his speed and burst.

• In yet another strong wide receiver class, two stand out as guys who could go much higher than expected: Xavier Legette (South Carolina) and Adonai Mitchell (Texas). Mitchell has been a touchdown and first-down machine, as 83.8% of his catches this season have resulted in a score or moving the sticks. He hauled in eight catches for 149 yards and a touchdown against K-State. And Legette pieced together another dominant performance, catching nine passes for 217 yards and two touchdowns against Jacksonville State. He is now sixth in receiving this season with 973 yards.

kcbubb 11-08-2023 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17176285)
Xavier Legette reminds me of A.J. Brown..

https://x.com/JoeMacheca/status/1706...914816962?s=20

22.3 mph at 6’3” 227 lbs

Bowser 11-08-2023 06:22 PM

Damn!

Couch-Potato 11-08-2023 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 17215503)

I like Legette. Feels like we always go for a T Lockett type, but I'd love to have a DK Metcalf type in KC. kelce, Legette, Rice is a pretty tough trio to defend over the middle.


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