And that's why DCS is back? People have insulted people family members, said hurtful things, and all sorts of stuff on here. You guys focus on Claythan because he's Claythan. You know the kind of harrassment I've received from Redrum? So many people here seem to love him, so what he does to me is overlooked. I put him on ignore, and life is much better. I'm surprised no one has thought of doing that with Claythan.

I agree with you to an extent. But I dont have the burden of holding it against him for a year. He continues to show a lack of growth. Yesterday is a good example. He's willing to sell out over nothing. If he really was interested in his own self respect he would seek out that poster and give him back his 50 bucks. I mean it's 50 measly dollars. But his integrity continues to be worth less than 50 bucks. Who am I to place more value on Clayton than he himself does?

Dont misunderstand my position on this. I dont require his self banning. I didn't ask for it. In fact, looking at his reaction in whole, it looks more like an attempt to save face than a gesture of apology.

The whole thing is water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned. To me, it's just another poor decision in a long list of poor decisions he's made in the time I have observed him on here.

Whats important is not my opinion, but his opinion of himself. Thats where he's lacking. It's unfortunate when the people around you expect more from you than you do. If he changes that, then I will be happy for him. Until then, I have no issue looking him in the eye and telling him his behavior is unacceptable.

You should stop making excuses for him. It wont help. It might make you feel compassionate. But it only feeds the problem.

yeah so he can do what he has always done? use a dupe acct??? yeah. i think the rules say you cant talk shit in a prayer thread yet he can come out and know about the illness and use that in an argument about football??? how can you even come here and defend him (do you realize that you are the only one???) and he had a chance to make good(apologize) yet still used that to be an asshole:shake:

THIS

$50, to me, isn't measley. That's a utility bill. I see your point, though, and I'm going to stay out of it from now on. Everyone on here hates him, so I'll end up being guilty by association.

You can see his self banning however you want. He asked me if he was an asshole, and I told him yes.

I don't know...all I know is DCS threatened Iowanian, he brought it to everyones attention, and Dole banned him, then he came back as RoR. I believe if he ****s up again he's done for good. GC has a rap sheet longer than donkey-dong, and he won't change. That was a ****ed up thing he said, I don't care what anyone says.

And if redrum said some heinous shit to you, did you report it? If you didn't, then you can't complain. If you did, then that's ****ed up.

I've been neg repped by people for prayer threads. I just think a permanent IP ban is a little much. Like I said, I'm out of it. Done.

I did, several times. People thought I was whining and giving him more attention than he deserved.

Dude you got no idea about the crap GoChiefs has pulled over the years.

If his self banning was because he felt bad, why does he ban himself and then ask someone else of he was in the wrong? He's just trying to save face.

If you had to sell your self respect for $50, would you do it?

Besides, mom pays all the utilities.

I think the problem here is you're whining and giving him more attention than he deserves.

I know some of it....I've only been here since '06.

please carry the message to Mr. Wendler that he is not wanted here. His crap of years past has been tolerated. This event should not. He crosses the line a lot. Then he says he is sorry. He has apologized and it is up to crazy if he accepts it. Even if it is accepted, that does not mean there is no penalty. A self imposed penalty of a month (that he probably won't honor since he has none) doesn't count. If I was Mod, he would be banned for good.

You just told him yourself. He's still reading, but not posting.

If you guys want to get under his skin, put him back in the red. He did mention that no one had neg repped him for this thread. He deserves at least that.

Some of the stuff he's been banned for in the past make Marlboro Chief look like a saint.


He has an obsession with this place. I suspect it's probably the closest thing to friends the meat peaker has.

Mrs. GoChiefs-
he deserves much less....neg repping him, big deal. They mean as little as positive reps on sports message board. What is their value? Who do you show them to? Who do you brag to about them?
Neg repping?
Total ban is all that is acceptable.
Coward sitting back and reading. Come on Mods, ban him.

Cut him some slack. He's got to save money for an attorney for when NFL films discovers that he is stealing video for his "highlight films"

if he said that he lied to you, i negged him yesterday as many times as it would let me, yep just tried again and it says you cannot neg rep the same comment 2 x, and wont let me neg rep any others due to neggin him too much

they will find out soon enough. I plan on picking this board clean of all his stuff and sending the work to the NFL office.
He will wish he never took the $50 or make the comments he made to Crazy.

Chiefsplanet Mods - you may want to check your liability in letting him post that here. Maybe it would be better if you just banned him for good.

what happened?

tia

you got to give others some rep before you get back to him is all

what happened ?

tia

i know. just funny that he's STILL lying to make it seem better to someone on the "outside" of the situation. looking for sympathy, still not taking responsibility. the same as usual

look back a few pages, he started about post#411

you also can't rep the same comment more than once.

thanks...

aww... i'll give him some reps. hopefully, he'll be on his way back to green.

um hes green now

**** you.

Or are you calling him that? If so, never mind. :)

but, i gave you the rep... you have a funny blue color going on there

I wouldn't go so far as to call you his wife (I wouldn't wish that on anyone), however it is curious that you're defending him like you are..

I turned the view off, rep is about as useful as a screen door on a submarine.

lol

Because I'm an optimist. Anyone who can lose 100 lbs in a year can accomplish a lot. If you're gonna ban him, ban him. It's no skin off of my back.

interesting, that is pretty much his reaction to stuff.....hmmmm

Color me confused. What does doing something for himself (losing the weight he put on) have to do with his inability to know how to talk to/treat people. He's the same as he's always been. He's put himself so high on the top of the list it's isolated himself from reality.

WTF does losing weight have to do with anything?

Look on the bright side--he's taking up less space.

This doesn't really bother me, if he acts that way in real life he'll get his ass beat.

Hey, can you be a little bit less crazy? Thanks.

This thread is hilarious. Its like ya'll are so damn surprised that someone on an internet message board is capable of acting like a dick.

He deserves to be beaten with a spiked bat.

I see Claythan is still just as socially reeruned as he was 6 or 7 years ago.

Dude. Enough people on here have met me to know I'm not a dupe. Don't even go there.

That's a pretty complicated and badass dupe you have going there.

Cassel talk coming up in the 10 CST hour on ESPN's First take.

Sounds like they are going to have "experts" on talking about how he could be more Risk than reward. And that The Chiefs need to be in a win now mode. :rolleyes:

Should add to all of this. :D

Have they been up yet. If so, what'd they say?

Not yet.

Chiefs not willing to give Cassel a long term-deal, per Bob Glauber.

:hmmm:

Nothing new, ESPN was just blowing some smoke.

Bob Glauber of Newsday reporting that the Chiefs aren't in any hurry to offer him a long term deal yet.

But, but, he's our QB. He's the starter. We're set at QB for 10 years.

The next time I tell you fools to get your sombrero at the ready, you'd best LISTEN! :rockon:

I'm not sure what the issue is with people here. The status of the CBA, combined with the salary cap status of the Chiefs, means that there's no need to rush about a contract for Cassel. The Chiefs can afford a 14+ million dollar test drive, where many other teams wouldn't have had that luxury.

There's really no need to read anything more into it until the draft happens. Then, if the Chiefs draft a QB at #3, this becomes a thread worth revisiting. Until then, it's really not much of a story, even in comparison to Whitlock's bleatings about Johnson and Waters.

It's definitely worth talking about as long as certain people here continue to claim that Cassel is the future and it's not worth talking about.

So you've finally come on board! :D

It would be worth talking about if it clearly meant something more definitive than "No long-term contract yet". Right now, it doesn't.

What's the movitation to lock him up long term right now?

I can't think of one good reason.

Ahem.

I'm not the one suggesting it means something definitive. There is a large contingent of people here that have said Cassel IS the future simply because we traded for him. They have suggested it doesn't matter that he hasn't signed a contract.

He hasn't signed a contract. That, in and of itself, means nothing definitive, you're absolutely right.

By the same token, the fact that we traded for him - when combined with the fact that he doesn't have a contract - does not mean anything definitive either. Despite the protestations from the "Cassel is our QB" crowd.

Neither can.

Other than to send a signal to everyone involved that he's the long-term answer, there isn't one.

I'm sure Cassel and his agent are tried to get paid like an elite quarterback. Unless Cassel gives the Chiefs a decent discount, there is no reason to bear the risk associated with a long-term contract that he may be a bust. This is probably one of the toughest contracts to negotiate in the history of the league given the peculiar circumstances.

All the more reason to dismiss the notion that Cassel is our QB and there's no other possibilities.

I would say that because Pioli and Haley had confidence in him may be considered "Simply becaue we traded for him" has something to do with my excitment of him coming to KC. I respect their Opinions.

But I think his play last season plays more of a part in my opinion that he can lead us to the future.

As for the crowd that says he won't have Moss or Welker....I'm sure Pioli and Haley aren't going to leave him out on the field with toy soldiers to play with. They will get him help, whether it be coaching up the guys we already have or obtaining new weapons.

Are you willing to at least give him a chance? Or are you totally against him just for the sake of argument?

I'm absolutely willing to give him a chance. In fact, I'm fairly convinced that he's our QBotF.

However, the absolutes being thrown around in regards to the guy really bug me.

Anoint and move on; that's how it works here.

That's the best Chiefs news I've heard in 6 weeks.

I do believe we're about to get our merry little way on this matter. Look for Croyle being bought out or dismissed outright.:grovel:

If and when THAT shoe falls, get your ****ing Tequila and Sombrero at the ready, cause' it's ON NOW, BITCHES! PBJ:rockon:

I'm not a draftnik but what the point of trading for Matt Cassel and paying him 14 mio dollars for one year if you don't plan on him in the future. Otherwise there could have signed Byron Leftwich or Jeff Garcia as a stopgap solution.

Ah, Gotcha

He's gotta a point there. :clap:

But he does have a contract. He is signed for one year at franchise numbers. He's not an unsigned free agent. That's why this is a useless thread until the draft: Cassel is the team's QB going forward until something changes that.

As an aside, I have nothing against your hesitation regarding Cassel. I just think it's something that really has no potential for much discussion until after the draft, barring some sort of trade.

For one year, hence the double-standard comment.

Like I said, it wouldn't really be a topic of discussion if people didn't talk about the situation like it's not fluid, because it is.

Because he gives you 1 year of manageable play while you get your drafted QB ready? Because he gives you the possibility of drafting a QB and having 2 guys that might be franchise-caliber players? Because you kept him out of the hands of a division rival? Because you thought you could get him for a 2nd rounder and trade him for a late 1st?

What's the point of trading for Matt Cassel and making him you're QBotF if you're not going to give him a long-term deal?

Well, it may or may not be fluid. You're speculating that it is. I would expect that your speculation is, at least, largely correct, but it's still opinion, not fact.

That's my point:

NOTHING is fact, other than we know that he doesn't have a long-term contract in place.

I'm not the one suggesting that something is there that's not. That belongs to the people suggesting that Cassel is it, we're set, and that's all there is to it. They're speculating just as much as anybody else, only they don't act like it.

We're set this year. Including draft time.

[QUOTE=htismaqe;5665302]I'm absolutely willing to give him a chance. In fact, I'm fairly convinced that he's our QBotF.

However, the absolutes being thrown around in regards to the guy really bug me.[/QUOTE]

That's how I feel about Curry. The bolded part I mean.

PhilFree:arrow:

The only absolutes being thrown around about Curry are coming from the PRO-Curry side.

Mmm...:hmmm:

This pot needs more ingredients!

Assuming the statement originated with Cassel and his Agent, the fact that it has even been put out there does not bode well for the 1st Messiah, as we all know how Pioli demands the Iron Curtain when it comes to house information.

Therefore, I hypothesize that only one of two scenarios can and will result from this:

A) Dream of the 1st Messiah's Faithful:
This is a bartering tool( though not a very wise one when dealing with Pioli )for a larger long-term contract, scripted by Cassel's agent to give the impression that Cassel could yet still be available to other teams who are interested in him, and to of course "drive up the staying price" in KC.

B) High Drama:
This is the first, consensual between all parties, SCRIPTED shot fired in what will be a strategically executed plan of saying goodbye to the 1st Messiah because the deal was never truly done, because pending trades involving Waters, Gonzales, and Cassel are somehow tied to each other, or because the 1st Messiah was a carrot to be dangled from the get-go.

Now:

Stirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...:evil:

There's more to Cassel not getting a long term deal than people want to admit.

To destroy the Broncos?