You run out of an audience over at the game thread so you come join the Mizzou thread and continue?

STFU

When you say homecourt eventually decided it, you mean what exactly? I'm pretty sure we're on the same page, BTW, but I'm just checking.

Just answering your question. You wanted to know what he said, right?

It was basically the same rational, level-headed shit that you've been neg repping me for. He just said it to a national audience.

No, you pussy beaker. I mean that MU didn't fold because they had the crowd behind them and they made some massive shots at the end to win it.

You ****ers folded under the pressure, couldn't get a stop when you needed it and bricked 2 FTs that may have iced the game.

Kill yourself, you worthless, whiny shithead.

JFC.... KC_Connection don't be such a pussy, KU gets calls every game, your team lost, they could have made a stop OR Robinson could have passed the ball out and let some time go off the clock and reset the offense.

You left out the two horrible missed calls with under two minutes left that allowed MU to even having a chance to win. Not that I'm surprised at that...it's easier to rationalize the victory as some kind of major achievement that way.


The level of hatred in this rivalry has always been hilarious to me. Case in point...this comment.

The first charge was 50/50, Robinson slung his elbow right into Moore's chest (a point of emphasis this year, no less). The Dixon charge was absolutely the correct call. I DVR'ed the game and went back and watched those plays about 5x each.

Or the refs could have made the correct calls at the end when they had a sizeable lead. That might have helped some.

And KU gets the calls at home, much like MU does. I'll never deny that aspect of college basketball. I don't know why some others try to.

"I will say this: So much has been made about the hatred and that stuff," Self said. "Hey, this is hard for me to say to Missouri people, but I thought tonight that was about as classy an atmosphere as there is. I hope it'll be the same way when they come over to our place. I'm sure it will be." - Bill Self

OR KU could have made the plays they needed to... but you have to blame it on the refs.

Or you could recognize that a bit of both happened. That KU did make some of the plays they needed to win at the end...they just weren't called correctly.

You know what they say about "ifs" and "buts"...

You lost. The refs didn't steal the game from you... you just lost. Accept it and move on.

Broken record is still playing. Somebody unplug it, please.

What is there to accept? It's an ultimately meaningless regular season college basketball game in which KU badly outplayed a team and lost due to home cooking at the end. KU will move on and be better for it, I'm sure. It's now their turn to hold serve and I suspect, based on tonight, they'll do a much better job of it than MU in a few weeks.

It seems to me that it's a few MU fans that have to accept they got some serious help from the refs tonight both throughout the game and especially at the end. But that's apparently too difficult for anybody to do.

Because ku never gets home cooking at AFH, ever! All you are doing is making yourself look like a fool. At least go bitch in the ku thread. No one here wants to hear your bullshit.

KU gets home cooking all the time. I've never said differently. That's part of the reason why it's so hard to play there. And yet MU fans won't say the same thing about their own games, even when it's so stunningly obvious.

That is a chickenshit pussy way of looking at it. KU couldn't stop an 11-0 run to end the game... you really are a shit for brains. Thank god KU fans I work with and am friends with are not like you.

Sometimes the truth can seem that way to some, I guess.

KU would have been able to stop the run had they been given the basket that they deserved and the foul calls that they earned, no?

KU fans are like Colorado Rockies hitters on the road.

They don't just struggle because they're not getting those rolling curveballs they usually get at home. They struggle because they're not accustomed to normal breaking pitches. Suddenly a run of the mill curveball looks like the God of all breaking pitches because they're used that hanging shit they get at altitude. In all actuality, it's just a pretty average pitch.

Jayhawks fans are so used to getting every single call at home, that they're simple incapable of recognizing a game that is generally evenhanded. Ratliff gets 2 fouls called against him when he's standing flat on the ground with his feet set and arms raised? Eh, who gives a crap; they didn't get a borderline charging call when Dixon clearly had his feet set. Pressey gets bodied out of bounds, forcing a pass to a running center that leads to a traveling call? Don't care - KU didn't have a 3-1 FT edge (nevermind that MU was the more aggressive offensive team).

Suddenly the entire game came down to one charging call against Robinson where he spun and put an elbow into a defenders chest. To hell with the fact that Withey was cold-cocking guys under the net and not getting called for it; the entire game was decided on that single charging call. Why? Well because Kansas lost, that's why. And Kansas never gets beat by their opponent, just the referees.

If the refs aren't pole-****ing whoever the Beakers are playing that day, well then they're clearly biased against KU.

KU is 50-19 in B12 road games under Bill Self. Over the last nine years, only Texas has even been able to put up an above .500 record in such games in the conference (35-32). They usually outclass their opponents, even with the road calls going consistently against them (though 20 fouls to 10, 11 more FTs, and two crippling missed calls late can be tough for any team to overcome).

But yeah, the Colorado Rockies hitters on the road analogy is a great one. LMAO

Yeah, that would be me. I'm glad Missouri won, obviously, but I just don't.... like.... basketball.

We all waste too much effort on this pathetic Gooner troll. What a fun Saturday night he had - talking endless shit nobody cares about in a thread that has nothing to do with his team. I assume he followed it up by ****ing his hand and then crying himself to sleep. What a guy.

So KU doesn't win the close games that are played there, they just screw their opponents over with the home cooking. Got it.

A lot of the time, yes. They get bailed out at home by the refs all the time, much like MU did tonight.

This really shouldn't be so surprisingly for anybody that watches college basketball regularly. This is what happens at this level.

Frazod, I have no hate for you or MU. I never have. Only respect. I don't see much reason to make me the representation of your KU hatred and ire simply for talking the truth about a game and sport that you really don't care about.

Uh, I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about ArrowheadMagic.

"Gooner" troll.

Not annoying beaker douche. :)

My mistake, then. Carry on.

What does KU's record have to do with their fans' complete inability to recognize evenhanded officiating?

I didn't say KU's players and staff can't recognize it. Then again, KU's players and staff aren't the ones pissing and moaning about the officiating right now, are they?

There's very little that's evenhanded about a 20-to-10 foul differential, 11 more free throws, and two horrible missed calls in the last two minutes. And KU players and staff won't bitch about it because they know they get a very similar benefit on their own home court...it's part of the game.

Since I don't like basketball, I rarely post in basketball threads and don't partake in smack talk. I didn't watch the game, obviously can't discuss what happened, and beyond being happy about the whole top 10 win thing don't give a shit. I'll glad Missouri beat Kansas (in anything) and I'm happy that my fellow MU fans are happy.

I was just calling out one of the biggest gaping vaginas on the board, and much like his trolling, it had nothing to do with the game.

Who will you hate in the SEC? You're gonna have trouble coming up with the true hatred you've had for us all along.

Arkansas. It's like Kansas with hills. Even has "kansas" in the name. :thumb:

I should have figure that out, duh.

I can respect that.

FTR, I think you guys are much less susceptible to the Old Jedi Mind Trick. :D

If not Arkansas, I'm sure Fraz will come up with someone.

Hating Kansas is sorta like hating Denver. At first, you don't really notice them, then they slowly grow on you. Much like a fungus . . . a really annoying fungus.

You had exactly 1 person on your team willing to attack the rim, and he immediately put Ratliff in foul trouble despite Ratliff rarely even leaving the ground, let alone making contact that wasn't initiated by Thomas. It's hard to draw fouls when you're settling for (and drilling) jump shots. KU was smart not to drive; the jumpers were falling. At the same time, they weren't driving. You're not going to draw fouls when you're content with taking 12-footers all night.

The foul discrepancy was because MU plays a drive/kick style initiated by very quick guards. Dixon, Pressey, Denmon and even English where attacking the rim and trying to get Whithey and Robinson in foul trouble. It didn't work with those guys, but Wesley and the rest were certainly getting in there and committing fouls. Mizzou has done that all year and they've also done a very nice job of avoiding foul trouble, even on the road. They won the Baylor game on the road because they had something like a 2-1 FT margin. There wasn't any home-cooking; it's just how Mizzou plays.

And I can find you a missed call on every single offensive possession. I honestly could not care less about 'missed' calls - they are what they are. Over the course of a game, they balance out. But you can cite those late charge calls all you want; one of them was absolutely the right call (Taylors) and Robinson's was no worse than borderline. I'd be irritated if I were on your end, but he did put an elbow into a defenders chest and that's been called all season.

The refs didn't lose the game for KU tonight.

My brother-in-law is a Kentucky grad, and he's enough of an annoying douche that I can hate Kentucky based on that alone. :grr:

And I've always despised all things Floriduh.

They definitely have you out hillbillied(is that a word, it is now), Do they show deliverance scenes on the big board down there?

All right, if you're so convinced that playing style is the real reason behind that differential and not the home cooking that every home team gets in the NCAA, let's make a bet. I'll bet you that KU ends up on the positive side of both those statistics when they play next at AFH. Missouri will have ended up committing more fouls and KU will end up shooting more FTs. If that's doesn't happen, I'll admit that you are right and that you have a legitimate point here about this game.

I find it disgusting you comparing KU to the donkeys, better say some prayers. That will surely leave a mark with the big fella, and I ain't talkin' bout Tebo(w).

This, BTW, doesn't look like any charge I've ever seen, so I'll have to disagree with you there.

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Or, OR -

KU just didn't play defense worth a **** down the stretch? Yeah, I know, unpossible.


I suspect it will take you some time to get over this loss. And convince yourself it was the refs. Excuses and assholes, everyone has one.

Or there were multiple reasons for what we saw down the stretch, including the home cooking refereeing.


It's a regular season college basketball game. I recognized the loss meant virtually nothing when the game ended.

Sure. Repeat that in the mirror a hundred times, and you MAY believe it.

And seriously, shut up about refs and home cooking, hypocrite.

Pretty easy to believe it when you actually see it happen as blatantly as that was.

Hypocrite? Really?

I've only ever been honest about how KU gets the same benefits at home all the time.

Whatever, ace. It doesn't take a shrink to see that you're in denial of how your team lost, exactly. Even with those charge calls, KU just stopped playing D, period. That's why you lost, and you know it. Throw in a couple of missed gimmes by your all world badass from the line, and there you go.

And I'll retract the hypocrite blast on your word. Apologies, and props on being one of the very few honest KU fans I've spoken with about the home cooking you guys get at AFH.

Have a few more strong drinks and go pass out. It will all be better in the morning. Well, maybe not, but it will help you forget tonight, anyway.

Pretty hard to defend a guy who is hitting incredible shots all over the court. Perhaps doubled him, I guess, but MU is so balanced that likely wouldn't have worked. Denmon capitalized in a big way, but he did capitalize on an opportunity that was largely given to him by the refs at the end. I don't think that's too hard to admit for anybody who watched the game.

And I'm never anything but honest. I just recognize that just like in environments like that, you have to expect the calls to go the home team's way (and go that way they did). It will seem like a long wait until KU gets to play MU again in three weeks, that's for sure, but I expect they'll win some other games to pass the time.

lol

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Connection went full meccatard last night.

Thought maybe the game would be overturned last night because of all the incessant bitching and whining. Just checked ESPN, it looks like MU still won.

And the sad part is, I'm not even a Missouri fan.

But, yeah, KC Connection is doing his best KnowMo impression today.

What a game last night.

KU fans do not claim KC_connection as one of their own...

I was a great game. Thought it'd be close, but didn't expect it would be MU coming from behind, I thought it would be KU playing catch up all night. As a KU fan it makes it harder to take that they almost had the game wrapped up and blew it, but I'm sure it's sweet for MU fans. Hope KU takes out their frustration on Baylor in a big way.

Great game pics up on the KC Star Website now:
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/02/05...4.html#slide-1


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Englishscope24 Kim English
Hubert Davis said arena was rockin and #UNC games are "wine and cheese" ppl. I told him #Mizzou fans are "Bud light and Beef Brisket" ppl.

Kim English is really hard to root against. He needs to go into broadcasting after he's done playing.

Yeah. The guy's extremely comfortable in front of a camera. Got a bright future as an analyst.

Just asking here, are those 3 games in Columbia ?I know as a general rule MU has always been a thorn when KU is ranked and MU isn't.

Rivals always brings the best out in the players.

Good win for you guys, we blew it.

If claiming that KU will be bad after pre-season games and hating on Tyshawn Taylor all season for no reason means having to be associated with geniuses like you, then no, I certainly wouldn't want that.

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Two games in 1990 (home and road games won by Missouri) and the one last night. Perhaps more than anything that stat tells you that MU doesn't get to this level very often.

MU doesn't get to that level often, but when they do they drink Dos Beaktears

Feb. 25 will probably tell a different story than that. I just hope MU keeps winning enough to stay in the top 10 in the interim.

You need to worry about your team. The Hawks are the ones with 5 losses. Hell, you could be a 7 loss team and out of the top 20 by then.

KU won't be out of the Top 20 even with 7 losses. Their reputation alone gives them a Top 20 ranking.

3 for 3. What a run.

At Texas.

DGB

Home against Kansas.

I bet DGB had a blast at that game.

Mizzou now leads the nation with 7 wins against top 50 teams.

Melvin Booker's kid is a sophomore phenom, and he was at the game with his old man.

@DevinBook Devin Booker
Crazy atmosphere! Best game I've ever witnessed!

He would be one hell of a pickup.

I was thinking about that last night. Not sure how many potential recruits we had around. I know our cycle is all off kilter with all these transfers but I guess real young pups are on the radar.

Evidently the Hawks trashed their locker room after the game.

We had 3 or 4 huge recruits there. It was a huge recruiting weekend. There were 2 other 5 star guys that were going to visit as well but had "transportation issues". I think they were to have been unofficial visits, so the kids would have had to pay their own way to get there.

Didn't see you around last night Saul, but good game to your Tigers.

I think both teams last night are top 10 teams that could make deep runs if the chips fall.

the only other 2 games were in 1990. About a month apart. So I assume 2 at Mizzou, 1 at AFH. And they're my 2md favorite school. I'm not a diehard for Mizzou at all. I used to root for both schools until a few of the douchebag Beaker fans told me that was entirely unacceptable. Really, the arrogance is what drove me away.

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I was out boozing it up with a big group of (mostly Jayhawk) friends.

No wonder it was so smoky in there at the start of the game.

Yeah, I didn't wanna sound all butthurt like some Hawk fans do at times.


Mizzou took advantage and played great the last few minutes. Denmon and English were impressive, and Dixon played solid. I was looking forward to seeing Pressey but I wasn't overly impressed. I though Taylors length and quickness gave him alot of problems.

I think it probably ends up being a home and home split and the conference winner will come down to who slips up to the bottom feeders on the road. I think 4 losses probably wins the thing.

If you had to guess, how many losses do you think wins the conference?

I dunno maybe.....4?