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Los Pollos Hermanos 05-03-2012 05:20 PM

Wait....wut?

listopencil 05-03-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KCBOSS1 (Post 8592224)
A lot of black people ARE racist, being gay IS a choice, and most (not all) depression IS due to selfishness. I think you show your ignorance by thinking otherwise. Determining ignorance is a matter of perspective and obviously yours is wrong. :D

Are you a black gay depressed man?

Bowser 05-03-2012 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 8592401)
Are you a black gay depressed man?

Careful. You're channelling your inner patteeu.

Thig Lyfe 05-03-2012 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCBOSS1 (Post 8592224)
A lot of black people ARE racist, being gay IS a choice, and most (not all) depression IS due to selfishness. I think you show your ignorance by thinking otherwise. Determining ignorance is a matter of perspective and obviously yours is wrong. :D

The people oppressed by an inherently racist system by definition cannot be racist; homosexuality is by all scientific and anecdotal accounts NOT a choice (and it really shouldn't matter either way because there is nothing morally wrong with it); and depression is an incredibly well-documented and very real mental illness.

You can have an opinion, but when that opinion flies in the face of all evidence and logic, you are ignorant. And a depressing number of CP posters are ignorant. Or I guess that's only depressing to CP's non-ignorant members.

"Ignorant and Proud!" - ChiefsPlanet's much more succinct motto

In conclusion, Peyton Manning.

Okie_Apparition 05-03-2012 08:19 PM

Kids tend to become what they think their parents are
He may of had an almost uncontrollable urge to screw poodles in McDonalds
He'd rather his kids fight being suicidal than public dog molestering

OctoberFart 05-03-2012 08:29 PM

Bunch of scumbags on here laughing at this guys death. He left behind 3 kids without a dad. I think that is horrible. I Hope karma gets you guys.

Phobia 05-03-2012 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind (Post 8592887)
Bunch of scumbags on here laughing at this guys death. He left behind 3 kids without a dad. I think that is horrible. I Hope karma gets you guys.

I'm not laughing about the guy's death but the fact he left 3 kids is nobody's fault but his own. Karma already got the one responsible. Now there are 3 innocent victims left.

Ultra Peanut 05-03-2012 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 8591722)
..or maybe I"m a failure as a father and a human being because I can't give them what they need, so I'll off myself before I hurt them any more than I already have, and maybe I can help keep others from ever being in this position. You just never know.

This sounds way more like the depressed people I've interacted with on a pretty regular basis throughout my life (being a sadbrain and all, myself) than the "I'll kill myself, that sounds super beneficial in so many ways!" dude they're imagining.

Mr. Kotter 05-03-2012 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8592912)
I'm not laughing about the guy's death but the fact he left 3 kids is nobody's fault but his own. Karma already got the one responsible. Now there are 3 innocent victims left.

TRUTH. GTFO, Autumn-bundle of sticksty-Wind.

Just sayin'...

Boltjolt 05-04-2012 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8588233)
This.

I wonder if, to SD fans, this is like DT's death was to Chiefs fans? That was a blow, so I feel for them if so.


Huge blow to the City of San Diego. DT was a big blow as well and it was very sad but Seau you have to understand something. He was a home town guy who grew up there. From High school he was in the paper as a multisport guy who went up the road on to USC and then drafted by the Chargers. He was very active in the community with his foundation and his restaurants. Very popular guy there so this is huge for us.

I have to say reading comments in this thread, many of your posters here have no class at all.

Phobia 05-04-2012 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Boltjolt (Post 8593504)
Huge blow to the City of San Diego. DT was a big blow as well and it was very sad but Seau you have to understand something. He was a home town guy who grew up there. From High school he was in the paper as a multisport guy who went up the road on to USC and then drafted by the Chargers. He was very active in the community with his foundation and his restaurants. Very popular guy there so this is huge for us.

I have to say reading comments in this thread, many of your posters here have no class at all.

Many of our posters are on a Chiefs site talking stupid crap on their home board. Classless would be if we went onto a Charger site to talk crap on Jr like so many rival fans did here when DT died. We aren't running around looking for trouble.

Fairplay 05-04-2012 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Boltjolt (Post 8593504)
Huge blow to the City of San Diego. DT was a big blow as well and it was very sad but Seau you have to understand something. He was a home town guy who grew up there. From High school he was in the paper as a multisport guy who went up the road on to USC and then drafted by the Chargers. He was very active in the community with his foundation and his restaurants. Very popular guy there so this is huge for us.

I have to say reading comments in this thread, many of your posters here have no class at all.



Seau would be on my NFL dream team for sure, first string.

I also think it is classless this forum can get a mob mentality making dumb statements like that.
Admittedly (though not in this thread) i can get caught up in it as well against my better judgment.


Not everyone on here is like that, my apology.

Aries Walker 05-04-2012 01:45 AM

This goes beyond what team he played for; it's tragic that he killed himself. It's even more tragic that a lot of people are blaming him for falling victim to a disease.

It's a good thing he didn't catch the plague. The cries of "How dare he be so selfish" would fill the air.

crazycoffey 05-04-2012 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8592437)
Careful. You're channelling your inner patteeu.

I know, I laugh that the quoted comment is ok for one race and racial/not politically correct/ taboo/ agenda meeting for another.

crazycoffey 05-04-2012 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind (Post 8592887)
Bunch of scumbags on here laughing at this guys death. He left behind 3 kids without a dad. I think that is horrible. I Hope karma gets you guys.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boltjolt (Post 8593504)
Huge blow to the City of San Diego. DT was a big blow as well and it was very sad but Seau you have to understand something. He was a home town guy who grew up there. From High school he was in the paper as a multisport guy who went up the road on to USC and then drafted by the Chargers. He was very active in the community with his foundation and his restaurants. Very popular guy there so this is huge for us.

I have to say reading comments in this thread, many of your posters here have no class at all.

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Originally Posted by Aries Walker (Post 8593576)
This goes beyond what team he played for; it's tragic that he killed himself. It's even more tragic that a lot of people are blaming him for falling victim to a disease.

It's a good thing he didn't catch the plague. The cries of "How dare he be so selfish" would fill the air.



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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 8591375)
hmmmm, divorce rate among the military is as high or higher, joblessness and financially stressed too. Mental health issues that lead to rising suicide rates. Hmmmmm, is there a difference we could focus on?

**** Seau, made millions, blew it, got divorced and depressed, killed himself and still makes front page news. Selfish prick. Only 43. selfish news media and selfish society.

I'm going outside to enjoy the sunshine. Peace out.

if that makes me classless, then I'm classless and sleeping soundly. I notice no comments about Seau making national headlines, and the many service members who never had it as good as Seau, yet suffered and made a selfish decision isn't even part of the discussion.

Stay classy society.

BryanBusby 05-04-2012 03:40 AM

ITT: We wait for the facts before we assume brain trauma, but in the mean time we assume he was selfish.

I have my doubts he off'd himself before he was broke. Seau had a pretty successful restaurant in the area and he was a god to people there. If he was really bumming for money, people would be lining up for him to endorse their shit.

listopencil 05-04-2012 11:56 AM

http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers/ci_...-he-was-crying

listopencil 05-04-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8592437)
Careful. You're channelling your inner patteeu.

Nah. I just wondered if he had some sort of special insight on being black, gay or depressed.

whoman69 05-04-2012 12:45 PM

The media is jumping the gun on this big time. There is absolutely zero proof at this time that his suicide had anything to do with brain injuries. Seau was never reported for head injuries. He even went as far to be treated by his own doctor to avoid being held out of games. How is that even remotely the fault of the NFL?

In58men 05-04-2012 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8594316)
The media is jumping the gun on this big time. There is absolutely zero proof at this time that his suicide had anything to do with brain injuries. Seau was never reported for head injuries. He even went as far to be treated by his own doctor to avoid being held out of games. How is that even remotely the fault of the NFL?

His ex wife stated that he did suffer from concussios during his career, but I personally believe that's not the reasoning for his suicide.


18 days before he took his own life


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR67b...e_gdata_player


Doesn't seem like a concussion problem to me.

Mr. Plow 05-04-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 8594200)


I see the family is already making plans.....


Seau's family has decided to allow researchers to study his brain for evidence of damage as the result of concussions, Chargers chaplain Shawn Mitchell told the Los Angeles Times on Thursday night.

DJ's left nut 05-04-2012 03:58 PM

911 audio is out:

Warning - it doesn't !@#$ around, very chilling stuff.

You feel just absolutely awful for his girlfriend.

<iframe width="100%" height="166" scrolling="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F45329341&show_artwork=true" frameborder="0" ></iframe>

Brock 05-04-2012 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8594316)
The media is jumping the gun on this big time. There is absolutely zero proof at this time that his suicide had anything to do with brain injuries. Seau was never reported for head injuries. He even went as far to be treated by his own doctor to avoid being held out of games. How is that even remotely the fault of the NFL?

Leaving aside whose fault it is, Seau apparently felt that his suicide had something to do with brain injuries.

Dylan 05-04-2012 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8594724)
911 audio is out:

Warning - it doesn't !@#$ around, very chilling stuff.

You feel just absolutely awful for his girlfriend.

<iframe width="100%" height="166" scrolling="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F45329341&show_artwork=true" frameborder="0" ></iframe>



Dear Lord ...

Ultra Peanut 05-04-2012 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 8594329)
His ex wife stated that he did suffer from concussios during his career, but I personally believe that's not the reasoning for his suicide.


18 days before he took his own life


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR67b...e_gdata_player


Doesn't seem like a concussion problem to me.

Chris Benoit was wrestling on live television until a few days before he murdered his wife and child and hanged himself. His brain showed signs of extensive trauma and no one had a clue until he destroyed his own family.

The damage done by concussions -- and straight-up depression, for that matter -- isn't outwardly visible 100% (or even very much of) the time.

Chiefspants 05-04-2012 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8594724)
911 audio is out:

Warning - it doesn't !@#$ around, very chilling stuff.

You feel just absolutely awful for his girlfriend.

<iframe width="100%" height="166" scrolling="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F45329341&show_artwork=true" frameborder="0" ></iframe>

:(

DaFace 05-04-2012 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8594724)
911 audio is out:

Warning - it doesn't !@#$ around, very chilling stuff.

You feel just absolutely awful for his girlfriend.

<iframe width="100%" height="166" scrolling="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F45329341&show_artwork=true" frameborder="0" ></iframe>

Yeah, not pressing the play button. Sometimes, our current technology allows us TOO MUCH access to stuff like this.

Mr. Plow 05-04-2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8594795)
Yeah, not pressing the play button. Sometimes, our current technology allows us TOO MUCH access to stuff like this.


Yup. Have no need to hear that. I'll sleep better without that floating around in my head.

mlyonsd 05-16-2012 07:27 AM

WTF is wrong with people?
 
Sorry if repost.

OCEANSIDE, Calif. – NFL legend Junior Seau's beach front San Diego-area home was burglarized only days after the football great apparently committed suicide, Fox 5 reports.

Police told Fox 5 someone broke into Seau's house on May 7 and went through papers and boxes. The only thing reported stolen from the home was a bicycle that reportedly belonged to Seau's friend.

Fox 5 reports authorities gave no details regarding a possible suspect and did not say if anything else was stolen.

Seau was found dead in his home May 2 of a gunshot wound to the chest. Authorities classified the 43-year-old's death as a suicide.

InChiefsHeaven 05-16-2012 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 8619148)
Sorry if repost.

OCEANSIDE, Calif. – NFL legend Junior Seau's beach front San Diego-area home was burglarized only days after the football great apparently committed suicide, Fox 5 reports.

Police told Fox 5 someone broke into Seau's house on May 7 and went through papers and boxes. The only thing reported stolen from the home was a bicycle that reportedly belonged to Seau's friend.

Fox 5 reports authorities gave no details regarding a possible suspect and did not say if anything else was stolen.

Seau was found dead in his home May 2 of a gunshot wound to the chest. Authorities classified the 43-year-old's death as a suicide.

Went through papers and boxes...seems like they were looking for something besides the usual bling...

OctoberFart 05-24-2012 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 8593592)
if that makes me classless, then I'm classless and sleeping soundly. I notice no comments about Seau making national headlines, and the many service members who never had it as good as Seau, yet suffered and made a selfish decision isn't even part of the discussion.

Stay classy society.

Did you guys make a thread like this when DT left behind a bunch of kids?

BigMeatballDave 05-24-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind (Post 8636734)
Did you guys make a thread like this when DT left behind a bunch of kids?

Derrick Thomas didn't kill himself, cockbag.

jspchief 05-24-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind (Post 8636734)
Did you guys make a thread like this when DT left behind a bunch of kids?

No, but we threw a party when that zombie in your avatar finally went to finish rotting in hell.

burt 05-24-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8636895)
No, but we threw a party when that zombie in your avatar finally went to finish rotting in hell.

I didn't. He was dedicated to his team. I respected that.

Frazod 05-24-2012 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8636895)
No, but we threw a party when that zombie in your avatar finally went to finish rotting in hell.

LMAO

Gadzooks 05-24-2012 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by burt (Post 8636974)
I didn't. He was dedicated to his team. I respected that.

Same here. I hate the Raiders but Al Davis had a huge impact on the history of pro football, most of which was positive.

Gadzooks 05-24-2012 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8636737)
Derrick Thomas didn't kill himself, cockbag.

He kinda did but not on purpose. Horrible driving skills/ reckless behavior vs. horrible depression.
You were being a bit of a "cockbag" with that post.
BTW- "cockbag"?... Did you hear that one from the other kids in the school yard?:spock:

listopencil 05-24-2012 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8637002)
He kinda did but not on purpose. Horrible driving skills/ reckless behavior vs. horrible depression.
You were being a bit of a "cockbag" with that post.
BTW- "cockbag"?... Did you hear that one from the other kids in the school yard?:spock:

I hear that "queerbait" is making a comeback.

Gadzooks 05-24-2012 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 8637082)
I hear that "queerbait" is making a comeback.

I'm teaching my kids to bring back "dick weed".

listopencil 05-24-2012 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8637097)
I'm teaching my kids to bring back "dick weed".

Ah yeah. That's a classic.

walletinspector 12-02-2012 02:54 PM

bump

SPchief 12-02-2012 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by walletinspector (Post 9172266)
bump

Enjoy the ban

Mother****erJones 12-02-2012 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OctoberFart (Post 8636734)
Did you guys make a thread like this when DT left behind a bunch of kids?

DT died from a car wreck asshole!! You ****ing one who sucks the penis go back where you came from

Deberg_1990 01-10-2013 07:20 AM

Seau's family saying he suffered from DTE, chronic brain damage resulting from football.




http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...otball-players


-- Junior Seau, who committed suicide last May, two years after retiring as one of the premier linebackers in NFL history, suffered from the type of chronic brain damage that also has been found in dozens of deceased former players, five brain specialists consulted by the National Institutes of Health concluded.

Seau's ex-wife, Gina, and his oldest son Tyler, 23, told ABC News and ESPN in an exclusive interview they were informed last week that Seau's brain had tested positive for Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy, a neurodegenerative disease that can lead to dementia, memory loss and depression.

"I think it's important for everyone to know that Junior did indeed suffer from CTE," Gina Seau said. "It's important that we take steps to help these players. We certainly don't want to see anything like this happen again to any of our athletes."

She said the family was told that Seau's disease resulted from "a lot of head-to-head collisions over the course of 20 years of playing in the NFL. And that it gradually, you know, developed the deterioration of his brain and his ability to think logically."

CTE is a progressive disease associated with repeated head trauma. Although long known to occur in boxers, it was not discovered in football players until 2005. Researchers at Boston University recently confirmed 50 cases of CTE in former football players, including 33 who played in the NFL.


Seau shot himself in the heart May 2. His death stunned not only the football world but also his hometown, San Diego, where he played the first 13 years of his 20-year career. Seau led the Chargers to their first and only Super Bowl appearance and became a beloved figure in the community.

Within hours of Seau's death, Tyler Seau said he received calls from researchers hoping to secure his father's brain for study. The family ultimately chose the National Institutes of Health in Washington, D.C., to oversee the research.

Gina Seau said the family chose the NIH because it was a "complete, comprehensive, unbiased scientific institution of the highest level."

Dr. Russell Lonser, the former chief of surgical neurology at the NIH, helped coordinate the study. In an interview, Dr. Lonser, who was recently named chairman of the department of neurological surgery at Ohio State University, said that because of the publicity surrounding the case, the study of Seau's brain was "blinded" to ensure its independence.

Three independent neuropathologists from outside the NIH were given unidentified tissue from three different brains; one belonged to Seau, another to a person who had suffered from Alzheimer's Disease, and a third from a person with no history of traumatic brain injury or neurodegenerative disease.

Dr. Lonser said the three experts independently arrived at the same conclusion as two other government researchers: that Seau's brain showed definitive signs of CTE. Those signs included the presence of an abnormal protein called "tau" that forms neurofibrillary tangles, effectively strangling brain cells.

A statement released by the NIH said the tangles were found "within multiple regions of Mr. Seau's brain." In addition, the statement said, a small region of the left frontal lobe showed "evidence of scarring that is consistent with a small, old traumatic brain injury."

Dr. Lonser declined to name the neuropathologists who examined Seau's brain.

In addition to his previous role at NIH and, now, at Ohio State, Dr. Lonser serves as chairman of the NFL's research subcommittee, part of the league's Head, Neck & Spine Committee, which helps set policy related to concussions. The NFL in September made a $30 million unrestricted donation to the NIH. Dr. Lonser said the league "was not involved in anything regarding how this brain was handled or managed at any step of the process, to be absolutely crystal clear about that."

"The NFL had no influence whatsoever," he said.

The study of CTE and football is still in its infancy. The prevalence of the disease has not been established. It cannot be diagnosed in living people, only by examining brains that are removed during autopsy.

More than 4,000 former players are suing the NFL in the federal court, alleging the league ignored and denied the link between football and brain damage, even after CTE was discovered in former players. The Seau family said it has not yet decided whether to join the lawsuits.


Over the past five years, under pressure from Congress, dissenting researchers and, more recently, the lawsuits, the NFL disbanded a controversial committee on concussions that was established in 1994 under former Commissioner Paul Tagliabue. The league made several rule changes and overhauled its policies to focus on head trauma and long-term cognitive problems.

Asked if she believed the NFL was slow to address the issue, Gina Seau said: "Too slow for us, yeah."

Tyler, whose mother was Junior Seau's high school sweetheart, and Gina both described dramatic changes they noticed in Seau during the final years of his life, including mood swings, depression, forgetfulness, insomnia and detachment.

"He would sometimes lose his temper," Tyler said. "He would get irritable over very small things. And he would take it out on not just myself but also other people that he was close to. And I didn't understand why."

Seau, who also played for Miami and New England, was never listed by his teams as having had a concussion.

Gina was married to Seau for 11 years and had three children with him. They divorced in 2002, but she said they remained close friends until his death. Seau sent a group text to his four children and Gina the night before he took his life.

"I love you," he wrote.

"The difference with Junior & from an emotional standpoint (was) how detached he became emotionally," Gina said. "It was so obvious to me because early, many, many years ago, he used to be such a phenomenal communicator. If there was a problem in any relationship, whether it was between us or a relationship with one of his coaches or teammates or somewhere in the business world, he would sit down and talk about it."

Gina recalled that Seau frequently said, "Let's sit down and break bread and figure this out." She added, "He didn't run from conflict."

Tyler, Gina and her two oldest children, 19-year-old Sydney and 17-year-old Jake, all said they found some solace in the CTE diagnosis because it helped explain some of Seau's uncharacteristic behavior.

Still, it also left them conflicted that a sport so much a part of their lives had altered him so terribly.

"It definitely hurts a little bit because football was part of our lives, our childhood, for such a long time," said Sydney, a freshman at USC. "And to hear that his passion for the sport inflicted and impacted our lives, it does hurt. And I wish it didn't, because we loved it just as much as he did. And to see that this was the final outcome is really bittersweet and really sad."

Jake, a high school junior who quit football to focus on lacrosse, added: "He lived for those games, Sunday and Monday nights, you know? And to find out that that's possibly what could've killed him or caused his death is really hard."

Tyler said he was holding tightly to his memories of getting up at 5 in the morning to lift weights with his father before heading to the beach for a workout and surfing. And while the diagnosis helps, he said, it can't compensate for his loss.

"I guess it makes it more real," he said. "It makes me realize that he wasn't invincible, because I always thought of him as being that guy. Like a lot of sons do when they look up to their dad. You know? You try to be like that man in your life. You try to mimic the things that he does. Play the game the way he did. Work the way he did. And, you know, now you look at it in a little bit different view."

Tyler added: "Is it worth it? I'm not sure. But it's not worth it for me to not have a dad. So to me it's not worth it."

tk13 01-10-2013 09:28 AM

The storm is coming. When Goodell dumps kickoffs and continues to modify the game, it'll have started with things like this. Every brain these BU people study seems to have brain damage. At this point it may not be outrageous to think that down the road, young kids will not be allowed to play football.
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Deberg_1990 01-10-2013 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9302535)
The storm is coming. When Goodell dumps kickoffs and continues to modify the game, it'll have started with things like this. Every brain these BU people study seems to have brain damage. At this point it may not be outrageous to think that down the road, young kids will not be allowed to play football.
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Well, they havent outlawed boxing yet.

tk13 01-10-2013 10:17 AM

As far as I know there's no pee wee boxing. One of the people involved in the BU study thinks kids under 14 shouldn't play football.

Really though the big thing is when an article comes out of nowhere like the one about eliminating kickoffs and stuff like that. People are like "What?" Goodell is trying to cover himself in case they start really linking the NFL to brain damage.
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Saul Good 01-10-2013 10:29 AM

Cap NFL careers at 100 games played.

InChiefsHeaven 01-10-2013 10:34 AM

I have a friend who says that in 20 years, football will be a fringe sport because moms and dads will stop letting their kids play for fear of concussions and other injuries. Not sure I agree with him, but things they are indeed a changin'.

Chief_For_Life58 01-10-2013 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 9302717)
I have a friend who says that in 20 years, football will be a fringe sport because moms and dads will stop letting their kids play for fear of concussions and other injuries. Not sure I agree with him, but things they are indeed a changin'.

inner city kids will always play football

Deberg_1990 01-10-2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 9302717)
I have a friend who says that in 20 years, football will be a fringe sport because moms and dads will stop letting their kids play for fear of concussions and other injuries. Not sure I agree with him, but things they are indeed a changin'.

Football provides too many opportunities for too many kids for that to happen.

Deberg_1990 01-10-2013 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9302681)
One of the people involved in the BU study thinks kids under 14 shouldn't play football.

I can see this happening someday

jAZ 01-10-2013 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9302660)
Well, they havent outlawed boxing yet.

I don't let my son box. And I'm not enrolling him in football either. That's the real threat to the sport, not likely actual regulation.

Basketball, cycling, aikido, swimming, etc.

Brock 01-10-2013 10:58 AM

It's a miracle any of us survived back before parents swathed their kids in bubble wrap.

Bowser 01-10-2013 11:17 AM

It will get to the point where rookies coming into the league will have to sign a waiver so the NFL won't be held accountable for future injuries to said rookie.

Skyy God 01-10-2013 11:25 AM

I'm with Nate Jackson on providing health insurance for ex-players. Dubiously efficacious rule changes like eliminating kickoffs won't win the PR battle. This might.

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So what moral obligation does the industry have? I say there is only one: health care for life for all vested NFL players. There are roughly 18,000 former players alive and breathing. It is feasible, considering the $9 billion dollars in revenue the league brings in every year, to provide health insurance for every one of them. As it stands now, players have five years of post-career health coverage: then they're on their own with a long list of pre-existing conditions. Many football-related ailments don't pop up until later. By then many of them are broke.

If it is true that football is our true national pastime, then we should protect it. That means protecting those who play, and yes, those who played. They do not disappear when they stop playing; they limp along. And every uninsured, drug-addicted, crippled, dementia-praecoxed former player who limps through his football-free world is a black eye on a league that is already up against the existential ropes. Finding a way to insure those who need it, like RGIII someday will, would be the PR boost that the league so desperately needs, with the additional virtue of being the good and ethical thing to do.

Then we could stop pointing fingers. We could stop telling lies about "safer football." We could allow the game to evolve in its own best interest instead of the best interest of the league's PR machine and litigation team. And we could enjoy the game of football again, knowing that the men who entertain us will be taken care of when their bodies are no longer healthy enough to hold our attention.
http://deadspin.com/5974523/the-heal...player-himself

Dave Lane 01-10-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 8637082)
I hear that "queerbait" is making a comeback.

Only in DC. Stay out of there as much as you can :)

Thig Lyfe 01-10-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9302302)
Seau's family saying he suffered from DTE, chronic brain damage resulting from football.


So selfish.

Saul Good 01-10-2013 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9302771)
It's a miracle any of us survived back before parents swathed their kids in bubble wrap.

Why do people make comments like this? What are they supposed to prove? Human kind has survived innumerable horrible circumstances. Does that mean we shouldn't try to correct anything?

Thig Lyfe 01-10-2013 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9303222)
Why do people make comments like this? What are they supposed to prove? Human kind has survived innumerable horrible circumstances. Does that mean we shouldn't try to correct anything?

Concussions build character.

Brock 01-10-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9303222)
Why do people make comments like this? What are they supposed to prove? Human kind has survived innumerable horrible circumstances. Does that mean we shouldn't try to correct anything?

By not letting 8 year olds play football?

Saul Good 01-10-2013 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9303245)
By not letting 8 year olds play football?

No. That doesn't make your sentiment logical, though.

Brock 01-10-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9303283)
No. That doesn't make your sentiment logical, though.

It wasn't meant to be taken literally. I'm surprised I had to tell you that.

Saul Good 01-10-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9303288)
It wasn't meant to be taken literally. I'm surprised I had to tell you that.

I understand that. I just don't understand why people like to make that comment given that it can be used to defend turning a blind eye to literally anything, regardless of how heinous, negligent, etc. the action may be.

"How did we ever survive back before the government told us that our kids couldn't work in coal mines? Derp."

Deberg_1990 01-23-2013 02:35 PM

and so it begins.....Seau family sueing NFL for brain disease.



http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...90M1E220130123


The family of former San Diego Chargers star Junior Seau, who killed himself last year, sued the National Football League on Wednesday, claiming that his suicide resulted from brain disease caused by repeated hits to the head during his football career.

The wrongful death lawsuit, which was filed in San Diego Superior Court by Seau's family, as well as the trustee of his estate, also claims that the NFL concealed the risks of brain damage in the sport, court documents showed.

A study by a team of independent researchers released earlier this month found that Seau, 43, suffered from the same debilitating brain disease diagnosed in at least two other former NFL players who committed suicide.

The study found that Seau had chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or CTE, likely brought on by two decades of blows to the head.

An NFL spokesman, Greg Aiello, told Reuters the league's attorneys would review the lawsuit and respond to the claims appropriately through the court.


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