NCAA teams that aren't mediocre don't squeak by an Auburn team that is one of the worst teams in the country and they also don't need a miraculous comeback aided by a boneheaded coach to beat the team that barely beat Auburn.

See how that works? That's why they play the game.

Mediocre compared to what a USC team normally is and compared to what the expectations for them were.

So you don't have an answer?

Well, that's unfair. They've lost 45 scholarships over the past three years, yet the team hasn't fallen off the map.

If you imposed those sanctions to LSU or Alabama or Florida, they'd suffer as well.

I'm not a USC fan per se but they will be back.

Are you seriously trying to infer that Alabama and LSU are mediocre because one of them played a close game against Auburn?

Cam Newton is my answer. Dumbass.

Team A averages 41.6ppg.

Team B averages 40.6ppg.

Therefore, Team A is "a clearly better offensive team" because of Cam Newton?

Yes, I agree your "answer" is one submitted by a dumbass.

I get the reasons for why they are mediocre in 2012 and I get that they'll likely be back near the top eventually. But none of it changes what they are right now (and that's a USC team that isn't anywhere near as impressive as we've become accustomed to seeing come of the PAC).

Non-SEC teams have a rich history of losing to SEC teams in NC games. And Oregon, last I checked, would fall into the former category no matter how closely they lost two years ago to Auburn.

I think we have a difference definition of mediocre. Top 25 isn't mediocre, IMO. USC has pulled through these sanctions about as well any former national power could have expected although I think their reign over the PAC 12 is over for quite a while.

Watch Cam's year at Auburn. Then watch Bama's offense this year. You're really going to argue that this Alabama team is better offensively than Auburn's team with Cam? You honestly think AJ McCrybaby is leading this Bama offense back from a 3 score deficit in Bama against a team that had Hightower, Barron, Upshaw, Cody, Menzie, Kirkpatrick and several other defensive players coming off of a national championship?

Fair enough. For me, that is too general of a comparison. Valid though.

Not at all. I was trying to point out that calling any team mediocre based on one game is stupid. If Miles doesn't give that game away tonight, Alabama would have lost to the only legitimate team they have played all season. Fans can talk in circles about college football. Past games have no bearing on the outcomes of future games just like past seasons have no bearing on future seasons.

IMO the SEC is a little overrated this season, but the games will prove whether I'm wrong or right.

Hey Sorter can you take that huge pic out of your sig?

We have sign rules and that one slows the site down for mobile users.

Cats have run 688 plays in conference. They have turned the ball over to the opposition exactly 1 time. On a bungled punt catch.

I'm not claiming this Alabama team is better offensively than Auburn in 2010. I'm saying they were about equivalent, which the statistics support.

The only thing clear is that you're too stupid to have this discussion with.

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Clearly. If you really think they're equivalent because of a PPG stat, that's fine.

Wow

Sorter is that you in the sig?

Also, this. http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/16...riversderp.gif

Perhaps. My point, though, is that when someone says Oregon beat USC on the road, it doesn't carry quite as much cache as it did a few years ago when USC was on the top of football. They're simply not at that level right now.

Point noted, but there's more than just that one Arizona game to support that USC isn't up to their normal standards.

I've heard that before the last few years, but in the end, it usually ends up with the SEC on top and winning a huge share of bowl games.

I agree that the SEC is overrated actually. The top is ELITE, then the bottom sucks. There's not much middle ground.

They're way better than anyone else though...

I don't think the top tier SEC teams are overrated. Bama, Georgia, Florida, LSU, South Carolina and A&M are all tough as ****.

Say UGA and Bama win out (both should) and meet in the SEC title game. The talk of the week into that game will be whether or not UGA should get in the BCS title game if they win?

The big games on their schedule when they played:
lost to #5 SC @SC
beat #2 UF neutral site
beat #1 Bama neutral site

Will have won the SEC. I think they'd be in, leapfrogging teams who's fans would be pissed....

Not a big college fan, so it would be hilarious to me. I'm sure plenty would be livid, as they are every year.

**** you Pitt, **** you USC, and double **** you LSU.

We beat Boise St.

That's actually my thinking on the Big 12 this season. Right now I don't think anyone outside of Kansas State and Oklahoma should be ranked, and I think it's an off year for the Sooners (obviously an 'off' year for them is one where they're ranked in the top-20 instead of the top-5 to 10). I think it's questionable that Texas is ranked, although maybe they've finally figured out their defense. At the end of the day, though, I would be surprised if they're even in the game with Kansas State. And the rest of the conference has at least 3 losses apiece. I just don't see a whole lot there right now. A bunch of mediocre teams with Texas on top, then Oklahoma a tier above, then Kansas State a tier above that.

I didn't see it. LSU cut through the Alabama defense like knife through butter. And LSU aren't known as offensive powerhouse. BTW Miles gambles and gambles and the one time it was probably merrited he played conservative plus in the last 50 seconds LSU really had a meltdown.

Plus it doesn't help having Lance Kiffin as headcoach. I'm wondering if Lance will sack his father. I wouldn't be surprised.

No way an one loss Georgia team goes ahead of an unbeaten K State, Oregon, or Notre Dame

@DScottFritchen: Have never heard of a team that scored 111 points off turnovers without giving up a single point off turnovers. Until now. Amazing. #kstate

Typical GoPowercat; post/tweet something to the masses that was on last nights broadcast as though they researched it.

I missed it last night so it was news to me.