Because it's all the Chiefs have EVER done.

I wonder if the Browns will go after Alex Smith.

Norv Turner has worked with him in the past.

I guess so. It's really the only reason that makes sense. For other teams we get "don't have a QB, have to draft one early" but for the Chiefs its "don't have a qb, need a mediocre game manager in free agency".

Can anyone give us any examples in the past 20 years or so where a team had the #1 pick overall, didnt use it on a QB and traded for another teams backup? How did that work out for them??

and the management/ownership of this team doesn't give a flying rats behind how you feel about it.......but yet, you are still a fan:spock:

Of the last 15 first overall picks, 12 of them were quarterbacks.

None of the other 3 were given a second contract by the team that drafted them.

Mario Williams (Passed on Cutler)
Courtney Brown (Chad Pennington)
Jake Long (Matt Ryan)...they haven't re-signed him yet.

That is interesting.

In the last 20 years....teams who didn't take a QB #1.

2008 - Jake Long - Dolphins - QBs: John Beck, Chad Henne (2nd round in 2008)
2006 - Mario Williams - Texans - QBs: David Carr
2000 - Courtney Brown - Browns - QB: Tim Couch
1997 - Orlando Pace - Rams - QB: Tony Banks
1996 - Keyshawn Johnson - Jets - QB: Neil O'Donnell (The year after he took the Steelers to the SB)
1995 - Ki-Jana Carter - Bengals - QB: Jeff Blake
1994 - Dan Wilkinson - Bengals - QB: David Klinger
1992 - Steve Emtman - Colts - QB: Jeff George

All these idiots that think a non-QB is safe need to check facts.
Just because a guy is not a qb doesn't mean he is a safe pick.
There is just less news if he is a bust than if a qb is a bust.

@nfldraftscout OK Matt answer this. Chiefs sign Albert and Bowe before the Draft. Who would you take then?


Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout
@ChiefsOsFan Star Lotulelei.



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Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout
I'll try to simplify this: The only way I'd draft Geno Smith for the #Chiefs is if they can trade back.

Id also like to mention that the bust rate of defensive linemen drafted in the first round is wayyyyy higher than first round quarterbacks.

To be fair, the Browns just drafted Couch the year before. I support them not taking a QB at #1 that year.

That actually is pretty interesting
This tells me it's much more likely than I thought that the Chiefs are going QB.

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout

The only people who think the #Chiefs have to draft a QB are Chiefs fans. Consensus among NFL people is that Joeckel will be the pick.

Matt Miller is a complete buffoon.

Anyone that says you should trade back to take a QB is a complete idiot...look at history FFS...it doesn't matter where you take a QB...if it works out its worth it's weight in gold and if it doesn't, you just swing again.

Rodgers, Brees, Flacco, Kaepernick and countless others "weren't worth the first overall pick"

How'd that turn out?

Watch him suggest Geno for the Jags then... or at worst Faid or Filly.

Oh....you mean the people that actually know about the ****ing team and what they need?

Passed on Culpepper and McNabb the previous year. Haha

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva

Ozzie Newsome on the 7 NFL GMs who lost jobs this offseason: "All them guys that got fired didn't have a quarterback":


Ozzie gets it.

Who here has twitter?

Somebody re-tweet that if the "consensus among NFL people" were the right decision, the Chiefs would still have Scott Pioli as their GM.

:clap:

This needs to be retweeted again and again and again.

It needs to be spread everywhere, archived and brought up again for future use.

Damn truth and it's no secret, but too many dumb ****s don't get it.

Here is what Scott Pioli,,,,er NFLPhilosophy said to that.


NFL Philosophy‏@NFLosophy

To follow up on Silva's tweet...Taking the wrong one doesn't solve that situation.

So the way to avoid that is not draft one. EVER.

Though Philip Rivers is generally an asshole who shouldn't trusted with the game in his hands, I'd still say that he's "a quarterback". That wasn't a Cassel/Kolb/Sanchez/Gabbert kind of shithole.

Os fan... Tweet him that Flacco, Rodgers, Kaepernick, Brady, Brees and many other superbowl qbs "weren't worth a top pick" either.

See what they say.

:facepalm:

nor does trading for the wrong one Scottie

Please, I ask again, how is a guy not a good value at 1, but he is at 4?

Now the dude from Arrowhead pride is all over Star, saying he's the first pick.


**** this franchise.

Franchise? Since when was a guy from Arrowhead Pride designated as GM of the Chiefs?

You guys need to stop complaining about what dipshit fans and uninformed douchelords with a website say about the Chiefs team needs and who they should choose in the draft.

I get that, but has the franchise actually done anything different?


And I really meant to say fanbase.

John Dorsey and Andy Reid just got here.

It's understandable to have an itchy trigger finger though, with the guys that have been running this team and their preceding reputations.

FYP.

Yes, I understand that, but until they actually make the pick, I'm skeptical.

Reid and Dorsey have explicitly stated the importance of the QB, while offering a minimum of bullshit cliches like "The Right 53," which plenty of fans ate up from Pioli.

To clarify, I was meaning this franchise in past tense. Nothing to do with the new regime hire etc.

No but John Dorsey and Andy Reid have done it differently.

You know what question I'd like to hear Dorsey answer:

Would you have drafted Aaron Rodgers if GB had the number one overall pick in 2005, instead of the 24th overall selection?

What do you think he's going to say? No?

Like I said, until they actually do something different, I'm skeptical.


Would you guys not feel the same if they were to go out and trade for Alex Smith and draft Star at 1?

I am with you on this one. Until I hear "With the 1st pick in the 2013 NFL draft...the Kansas City Chiefs select Geno Smith." I will be nervous.

Of course. That would be asinine, and stating otherwise is ridiculous.

This is going to be a long couple of months because of the amount of dumbshittery being spread about the Chiefs and the QBs in this draft. I'm not going to worry about cleaning up a pile of shit until someone drops another upper-decker in my residence.

"But what if someone shits?!? What if the shit actually comes out of his ass?!!?"

If they do this, I think I will cease to be a Chiefs fan. I mean it. There is no "hope for the future!" that rivals another magnificently shitty offseason where we refuse to take the necessary risks.

Drafting a QB #1 overall is a NECESSARY RISK. It is a gamble, but you absolutely MUST do it. God, I just get so ****ing angry thinking about dipshits who actually believe that the top QB in the class "isn't worth it" but a non-passrushing shit head defensive tackle is.

Because we all know shithead defensive tackles who can't rush the passer win championships. We ALL KNOW THAT.

Yeah, true.


But this is a message board, isn't that what we are here for? :p

Rumors and news. Not to engage in self-induced golden showers.

Well, this is a rumor.

So we're good?

By the day of the draft, we'll have known for a few weeks, maybe longer, who the Chiefs are taking.

I have decided to put the best interest of the Chiefs for success in the hands of Any Reid and John Dorsey. Sometimes we don't get to know all the info but now that Hunt seems to care more, I seriously doubt his guidance has been anything less than build me a super bowl contending team in the next couple of years. The QB part may come now, may come a year from now but it is about the total picture.

Unfortunately, we do need to wait to see what is going to happen.

I would tend to agree with you. However, we are Chiefs' fans, we're all used to this team doing the wrong thing over and over.

Chiefs aren't going to pick up Alex Smith, don't worry about it. Reid came here b/c this team had the #1 pick in the draft and he's going to use that on a QB.

Historically most teams leak who they are going to take at #1 early...

Not recently...

Someone ask these dumb****s how Jekyll makes the Chiefs a better team.

A hall of game lt? You kidding me?


Locks down the spot for 10 years

Not this early.

**** they'd have him signed before the selection show begins.

No Ogden or Pace type prospect. Can't draft him at 1.

Why aren't they saying this?

2008: Phins screwed the pooch. Should have taken Ryan. He was good enough to be taken #3 but not #1? ROFL

2006: Probably made the right choice there. They were still giving Carr time to develop. Weak QB draft

2000: Wow, another horrendous draft for QBs....and they were not going to take a QB the year after Couch. needed position


97: The right choice....another horrible QB draft and a needed position, and they were Banks was still young and unknown

96: Umm.....yea.....Neil O Donnel....that was a Cassel type of move by the Jets

95: Bengals felt they had something at the time with Blake

94: They were giving Klinger time to develop still

92: Still giving George time to develop.




So yea, history is on the Chiefs side here. No great HC or GM is going to look at Cassel coming in and decide..yep, thats my guy! Or Alex Smith for that matter. If Reid and Dorsey do, they are just as dumb as any other previous Chiefs regime and wont last long.

Not ten weeks early.

I put on blast that Alex Smiths best season saw him throw for just over 3100 yards, and the beginning of this season, he was averaging less than 180 ypg(34th in the league). That really stopped a lot of people dead in their tracks.

Andy Reid is a loser on so many levels it's ridiculous. I dis-like this hire because he's a fat overwieght faillure in football but more iimportantly as a father. Chunt is such a **** for this addition.

No they don't.

What in the flying ****ing ****? Are you drunk you mongoloid?

Ban pls

That's probably how the Raiders did it LMAO

Yes, because I care about Andy Reid's parenting skills.

**** yourself in the ass with Andy Reid's size 18 shoe.

Wow go to bed. You're delusional! ROFL a coach that has a career 130 wins and 10 postseason wins is a loser? Yup gotcha.

ROFL or he could kneel infront of Reid while he's doing the punt pass competition so he can be kicked square in the one who sucks the penis

Not entirely true: AJ Smith had a quarterback and ruined him due to his cheapness.

Mr. Harbaugh had two sons in the Superbowl several times. Mr. Manning
had two sons in several Superbowls...just for examples.

Andy Reid coached in the Super Bowl. Might of won if New England didnt cheat

There's no reason to believe that Reid wasn't guilty of the same sort of infractions...much like there's no reason to believe that most teams didn't have bounty programs...

:facepalm:

Well, just stopped in to check threads before bed. I see BlackBob, Roseanne, and Satan had an orgy and spawned Pin Head. Quality assessments.

You know what else Reid is interested in? Kicking your ****ing ass with a box of black dildos.

So we should only hire Reid if he could teach his sons to make it to the SB? Three quality posts. If you are actually trying to make real posts then I don't even know what to say to you.

:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:

It has been a long time since I had a quality laugh out loud like that.
thanks

Which is why it is so funny that the Chiefs want to play this close to the vest. For what purpose? You have the FIRST PICK IN THE DRAFT for crying out loud.

This...

How are they playing it close to the vest? The draft is nearly three months away, I doubt they've decided on their pick. FA will play a big roll for every team in how the draft will pan out, and that's in March, so we've got some time.