What exactly did I flip flop from? Yeah, I wanted them to take Geno at 1, but thats obviously out the door.


Theres smoke that they are interested in trading Albert, why not discuss it? I said I don't want them to, they probably won't.

Gosder Cherilus is a FA too.

they'd create a hole that needs to be filled with the first pick. Creating their own biggest need unnecessarily. Either Bowe or Albert was getting the tag. They signed the better player.

Because of that tweet? I don't care about that stuff.

They obviously could still sign Albert. I'm sure they would like too so they don't have to tag him.

I don't knwo that giving big money to Andre Smith would be the best idea.

They will not trade Albert.

Than they would have two holes to fill on the o line.

If Albert is forced to play RT im fine with him holding out because he is a LT and not a RT

Both Andre Smith or Jake Long would make sense at RT but then again the cap number for them could be very interesting in the long run.

The thing is penbook is that we can draft a LT at #1 and bring in a FA at RT... Albert may not be forced to move to RT.

Shouldn't we be factoring in that Dorsey came from a place that didn't throw money around?

Ahhh, the plot sickens.

Would of been nice to.have released Alex Smith and cassel with him.

No he's been whinning all offseason.

So? Let him whine.

How has he whined all off season? Because he's made it clear he won't play guard or RT?

maybe he was told it was a done deal.

Next cut will be Cassell if hes not traded.

Neither will accept right tackle money.

And Andre Smith can't be trusted.

He already got a shit ton of money from the Bengals, so it's not going to hurt anything.

There is only one Chiefs.

Cassel wont be cut till Alex Smith deal is done.

Then why aren't they re signing him?

That's why he has been cut, flat out cut twice in less than a year?

Look at the depth of the offensive line and tell me this guy is what you say he is and that they just cut him. Texans fans said the same damn things. Guess what? They still went to the playoffs last year without him.

Texans cut him for money. Chiefs cut him for injury concerns, supposedly.

What?

Andre Smith played right tackle last season. He's only ever played right tackle.

No one is making him a LT.

Keep ****ing that chicken.

I imagine they'll try, but Cincy isn't the best at spending money on players.

Cincy has the most cap room of any NFL team right now. If they let him walk, that would be a red flag, considering how well he played.

He can't be trusted because he's a lazy head case.

The minute he gets paid, he's turning into you circa 2006.

I think the Chiefs will pick up a few guys in the FA market but as a whole we will get players through the draft. If we go off of what Dorsey believes in the Packer philosophy, it is the draft where we will make our name.

With that said, the way we are clearing cap space, it is apparent we are going to dabble in the FA market.

He can't be trusted with a huge contract. The guy was a ****ing fat slob when he entered the league and if he signed a sizable contract, it's possible that he becomes a slob again.

When did Clay get rid of all his fat? 2008?

He got paid as soon as he entered the league.

Money isn't going to change him, he already has money.

This is a young, ascending player who has gotten better every year in the league.

I hope the Chiefs sign him and you and Dane weep and gnash your teeth.

So the Chiefs shouldn't sign any Free Agents because they are all damaged goods if they weren't signed by their current team?

Andre Smith was the best RT in the league last year and the Bengals have more cap space than any other team in the NFL. Obviously something is going on there.

You're such a petty little girl

I don't think he has been whining. And to say good bye because of the things he has said is silly.

They are a cheap organization.

No thanks his spiral just isn't as good as Geno's, and his deep touch is lacking.

They have to spend this year.

Andre Smith is a piece of shit and was arrested for carrying a gun into a airport in late January.

**** him.

I'm sorry that someone sucked any knowledge of the NFL out of your brain a year ago.

Eh, I don't think that was Andre Smith was it?

No Dane, **** you.

Andre Smith is going to shit in your mouth and rub his man tits on your face.

Winston is crap

Sounds like your typical Saturday night

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...as-city-chiefs

According to NFL.com the move saves $3.5 mill in cap space.

This was about Albert. He was saying Albert has been whining so "peace out" which I was disagreeing with.

Why was he bringing up Albert in a Winston thread?

My bad.

Geno Smith + Andre Smith = SUPER BOWL

**** the haters.

**** Winston! Andy and Dorsey have spoken! Get the **** out! I trust them on this one. He must be not drinking fhe cool-aid.

Yeah, every Chiefs fan would hate going to a Super Bowl with those guys on the team

April 25 your gonna be pissed off.

Someone tell me what the F the Chiefs are up to?

If anything, it's gonna be interesting to see what's up their sleeve.

Ha, no problem. As you said, it's a Winston thread. It always seems threads end up on the hot topic of the week no matter the original title.

It got on to Albert because of the talk about what this meant for the draft and the RT spot ect and then people posted Albert's tweets which seemed to be in reaction to this stuff which lead to the comment about him.

All the "experts" say you're wrong.

And his own team that has bundles of cap space doesn't want him.

Any team that invests 8-10 million dollar in a RT position is ****ing stupid.

Reid values bookend tackles, either he sees something in someone on the roster, or we are about to spend some money on the spot.

Were not signing a RT to a 45 million dollar deal or whatever he wants

LT Joeckel
LG Albert
C Hudson
RG Asamoah
RT Smith

BEST O LINE EVER

TRUE FANGASM

http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap10000001474...ase-ol-winston
Its done.

You guys forget, our RT is going to have to block Von Miller 2 per year for a while.

I'm glad to see this clown, leave town. (I'm not a rapper.) Winston's play was average at best last year. He became a liability in the passing game and was not as effective in the run game as he had previously been with the Houston Texans. When you go 2-14 shit has to change. Nobody is safe.


For the most part, Winston is a smart, well-spoken guy. But on October 7th 2012 after a loss to the Ravens, he lost his cool in a post game interview, and threw the entire Chiefs fan base under the bus. I don't give a shit if he was standing up for a teammate. You don't come to my city that you know NOTHING about, and bash our fan base. You keep your goddamn mouth shut, and take the loss like a man. Without us paying your multi-million dollar salary you wouldn't be anything.


Winston was set to earn $4.9 million this season, the second year of a four-year, $22 million deal. Cutting Winston saves the Chiefs $700k in cap space, and $4.9 million in cash.


Andy Reid places a lot of value on the offensive line. One of his very first moves when he was hired by Philadelphia was to make Jon Runyan the highest paid offensive lineman of all time (at the time). He's spent a pair of first round picks on the line, as well as traded a first round pick for Jason Peters and paid him big money.


A number of different things can happen now, but I think Reid will go after the former overall number 1 pick from the Miami Dolphins, left tackle Jake Long. He suffered a back injury and a torn right bicep last year which landed him on injured reserve. Long is a 4 time pro-bowler in his short 5 year career. At 6'7 320lbs he is exactly the type of player Andy Reid likes in his scheme. A big, beefy lineman that is an athletic pass blocker. Eric Winston is primarily a run-blocker, and a whiny bitch.


A lot of people think that Luke Joeckel or Eric Fisher are complete locks for the number 1 pick now, but I still disagree. I believe there is a better chance that Jake Long or another free agent end up here instead. Reid and Dorsey will do everything possible to get out of that number 1 pick. We just have to hope that a team falls in love with someone enough to trade with us.


Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Winston.

"This is the last time you will ever hear me talk to you"


thank you shakespeare ROFL

And there's the smoking gun.

Andre Smith is gonna get PAID and we're all gonna get LAID.

Except you, Dane.

You are going to make AustinChief lose his shit.

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
That he was expendable RT @mariohp1234 @RapSheet You foreshadowed Winston cut, but never hammered it home. What were you hearing about him?
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1 hr Arrowhead Addict ‏@ArrowheadAddict
@RapSheet What made him expendable?
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20 mins Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
@ArrowheadAddict Seemed clear. Knew how badly they wanted to keep Albert, some great tackles in the draft, cutting Winston saves $4M in cap

:facepalm:

If we get Andre Smith, our QB and RT are going to have to get one of those really tacky jerseys where the entire name is spelled out.

Well that'd be interesting to see. WHen was the last time that happened?

An. Smith, Al. Smith, G. Smith

Just use first names.

1 player plays with his first initial and last name on his jersey.

The other plays with a couple letters and then his last name on his jersey.

Ex: A. Smith and An. Smith.

4 million isn't worth passing a possible QBOTF.



Bad call

Genos jersey would just say... "The Smith"

Every time Im reminded of Geno, I again realise he probably won't be a Chief. A little part of me dies each time......

This is really obscure, but the Arizona Cardinals had a backup QB who had to start a game once named Dave Brown.

I remember that game because the back of his jersey said "Dave Brown". It looked like 200 pounds of bird shit

What are Stephenson's prospects of stepping in and playing RT?

:hmmm:

Hell why dont we just sign Brad Smith.

Zilch.

Reid wants the best RT in the league, no doubt in my mind.

That man is Andre Smith, future HOFer.

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein
Keep in mind that the Donald Stephenson has some talent in KC and could definitely factor into the starting RT spot with Winston gone.
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Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein
If Stephenson ends up being the athletic, inexpensive option at RT for KC, then Albert could still be shopped. I still think Chiefs take LT
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