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Jiu Jitsu Jon 04-01-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9547280)
5th ain't a bad deal for him really. Better than going with Pryor.

Doesn't necessarily mean Pryor won't start. May the best man win, and at least we have a serviceable backup now.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9547295)
Pryor will get his chance to show what he has, He is a freak of an athlete 6 foot 6 with a 4.38 40 time... I wish he was a WR

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/T...r6YX48bvOl.jpg

Doesn't mean shit if you can't read a defense or have proper ball placement.

R8RFAN 04-01-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9547305)
Doesn't mean shit if you can't read a defense or have proper ball placement.

You are correct

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon (Post 9547299)
Doesn't necessarily mean Pryor won't start. May the best man win, and at least we have a serviceable backup now.

No doubt, you guys made a nice deal for a backup QB. You now have 2 backups :thumb:

R8RFAN 04-01-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9547309)
No doubt, you guys made a nice deal for a backup QB. You now have 2 backups :thumb:

It's easy to call both of them backups because they are... I like our chances at the QB position better now though

ceebz 04-01-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9545964)
SMFH Flynn's 2 games in the NFL are = to what Alex Smith has done.

Flynn is an unknown quantity at this point. He may have potential, he may suck. At least there's a chance the kid could be good. We already know what Alex ****ing Smith is all about.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2013 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9547318)
It's easy to call both of them backups because they are... I like our chances at the QB position better now though

The compensation wasn't bad at all. I can't knock the Flynn deal, it was a solid move.

Messier 04-01-2013 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9547323)
Flynn is an unknown quantity at this point. He may have potential, he may suck. At least there's a chance the kid could be good. We already know what Alex ****ing Smith is all about.

What is Alex Smith all about?

ceebz 04-01-2013 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9547341)
What is Alex Smith all about?

6-10

Messier 04-01-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9547344)
6-10

Hope not.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2013 06:09 PM

Team should win 10-11 games next year. 6 would be an abortion, I don't care if it's a 4 game improvement.

Messier 04-01-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9547355)
Team should win 10-11 games next year. 6 would be an abortion, I don't care if it's a 4 game improvement.

Agreed. Even .500 would be a failure with approach Reid and Dorsey are taking.

BigMeatballDave 04-01-2013 06:14 PM

Reading the Alex haters posts about him, you'd think the Chiefs were looking at another 2-14 season.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2013 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9547361)
Agreed. Even .500 would be a failure with approach Reid and Dorsey are taking.

Yep. They want to go get a vet QB and fill holes with vet starters, I'm expecting a legitimate NFL team this year, not the shit we've witnessed in years prior.

O.city 04-01-2013 06:15 PM

So I can pencil all you guys in for a 10 win season?

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2013 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9547371)
So I can pencil all you guys in for a 10 win season?

Not saying they will, but that should be the expectation given the approach.

BigMeatballDave 04-01-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9547371)
So I can pencil all you guys in for a 10 win season?

Even average QB play last season would have gotten them 8 or 9 wins.

People have forgotten all the turnovers last season. Most of them by Cassel.

ceebz 04-01-2013 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9547355)
Team should win 10-11 games next year. 6 would be an abortion, I don't care if it's a 4 game improvement.

Right. Look at the schedule, look at the roster, and keep in mind that Smith is quite flawed, and tell me again how this team should be expected to win 10-11 games.

Smith isn't a franchise QB. The glaring holes on this team won't be hidden by stellar QB play, they'll stand out, just like they did with the last game manager we had at QB.

lol, gotta love that offseason optimism.

BigMeatballDave 04-01-2013 06:21 PM

Given the fact that the coaching staff has(seemed to be) improved, and the turnover machine is gone, they should win 10.

BigMeatballDave 04-01-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9547390)
Right. Look at the schedule, look at the roster, and keep in mind that Smith is quite flawed, and tell me again how this team should be expected to win 10-11 games.

Smith isn't a franchise QB. The glaring holes on this team won't be hidden by stellar QB, they'll stand out, just like they did with the last game manager we had at QB.

lol, gotta love that offseason optimism.

Ummm, Matt Cassel isn't a franchise QB and he won 10.

I'd like to think Reid is a much better HC than Haley.

O.city 04-01-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9547383)
Not saying they will, but that should be the expectation given the approach.

Way to be bold.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9547390)
Right. Look at the schedule, look at the roster, and keep in mind that Smith is quite flawed, and tell me again how this team should be expected to win 10-11 games.

Smith isn't a franchise QB. The glaring holes on this team won't be hidden by stellar QB play, they'll stand out, just like they did with the last game manager we had at QB.

lol, gotta love that offseason optimism.

It isn't optimism (use homer and I'll neg bomb you). It's expectations given the compensation they gave up for Smith and the vets they signed in Free Agency. Their aren't as many holes as you guys try and make out. Turning the ball over 50 times in a year and historic bad QB play really is what made the team as bad as they were. Alex is much better than the garbage we've watched in recent years.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9547402)
Ummm, Matt Cassel isn't a franchise QB and he won 10.

I'd like to think Reid is a much better HC than Haley.

But, but, but the schedule!!! /Every Little Chiefy (thanks Sweet Dick) for the last 2 decades.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2013 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9547404)
Way to be bold.

Even though I think he's a HUGE upgrade over Cassel, I don't think as highly of him as Reid/Dorsey, so I'm not going there myself.

BigMeatballDave 04-01-2013 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9547405)
It isn't optimism (use homer and I'll neg bomb you). It's expectations given the compensation they gave up for Smith and the vets they signed in Free Agency. Their aren't as many holes as you guys try and make out. Turning the ball over 50 times in a year and historic bad QB play really is what made the team as bad as they were. Alex is much better than the garbage we've watched in recent years.

Agreed.

While I do not think Smith is going to carry this team to many playoff wins, he will make them more competitive.

Is this what we really want? Of course not, but it's the reality we are now faced with.

I don't know, I just don't get the point of making every other post a tantrum about Alex Smith.

O.city 04-01-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9547407)
But, but, but the schedule!!! /Every Little Chiefy (thanks Sweet Dick) for the last 2 decades.

Well, there is some validity in that argument.

mcaj22 04-01-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9547405)
It isn't optimism (use homer and I'll neg bomb you). It's expectations given the compensation they gave up for Smith and the vets they signed in Free Agency. Their aren't as many holes as you guys try and make out. Turning the ball over 50 times in a year and historic bad QB play really is what made the team as bad as they were. Alex is much better than the garbage we've watched in recent years.

yes there is, there are tons of holes

no RB depth
tons of oline questions
no starting ILB
no ILB depth
zero OLB depth
zero defensive line pass rush
no safety depth


and if you sit there and say guys like Cyrus Gray, Hussain Abdullah and Geoff Schwartz are the answers to these holes you need to really sit down and take a long look in the mirror about the turd stains you are talking about and expect production from

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9547414)
Well, there is some validity in that argument.

There is a 50 percent turnover rate of playoff teams every year, so no it isn't.

BigMeatballDave 04-01-2013 06:34 PM

Cassel and Quinn threw 20 INTs. The Chiefs turnover ratio was -24, I'm shocked they even won 1 game.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9547418)
yes there is, there are tons of holes

no RB depth
tons of oline questions
no starting ILB
no ILB depth
zero OLB depth
zero defensive line pass rush
no safety depth


and if you sit there and say guys like Cyrus Gray, Hussain Abdullah and Geoff Schwartz are the answers to these holes you need to really sit down and take a long look in the mirror about the turd stains you are talking about and expect production from

Schwartz and Abdullah were solid starters the last time they had the opportunity. Quit playing Madden kid.

Every team in the league has "holes" if you are going to go here. You guys act like every playoff team is three deep in pro bowlers, lol

O.city 04-01-2013 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9547419)
There is a 50 percent turnover rate of playoff teams every year, so no it isn't.

Yeah, is that because the teams that have shitty schedules and make playoffs fall ass backwards down to earth when they have to play good teams?

mcaj22 04-01-2013 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9547422)
Schwarts and Abdullah were solid starters the last time they had the opportunity. Quit playing Madden kid.

Abdullah hasnt played in the NFL in like 2 years

Geoff Schwartz cant stay healthy

quit being a homer

ceebz 04-01-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9547402)
Ummm, Matt Cassel isn't a franchise QB and he won 10.

Playing the weakest sched. in the league. Chiefs won't have that benefit next season.

And Reid is an abortion. The guy is living off past successes; he's been shit the last six seasons.

BigMeatballDave 04-01-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9547418)
yes there is, there are tons of holes

no RB depth
tons of oline questions
no starting ILB
no ILB depth
zero OLB depth
zero defensive line pass rush
no safety depth


and if you sit there and say guys like Cyrus Gray, Hussain Abdullah and Geoff Schwartz are the answers to these holes you need to really sit down and take a long look in the mirror about the turd stains you are talking about and expect production from

This is what I see when I read your posts: http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/fi.../hair-fire.gif

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...s6kC2XBSj3LtqZ

O.city 04-01-2013 06:37 PM

We currently have talent, yes, but to wish anything more than about 8 wins this year is being pretty optimistic, considering all the changes we are going to have.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9547425)
Abdullah hasnt played in the NFL in like 2 years

Geoff Schwartz cant stay healthy

quit being a homer

Go back to sucking Raider player dick hoss and grooming your all 99 overall Madden team

BigMeatballDave 04-01-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9547425)
Abdullah hasnt played in the NFL in like 2 years

Geoff Schwartz cant stay healthy

quit being a homer

Quit being an infant.

I'm sorry if some of us choose to not bleed from our vaginas on a daily basis.

If the Chiefs suck ass next season, I'll survive. I've been a fan for 30 years.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9547440)
Quit being an infant.

I'm sorry if some of us choose to not bleed from our vaginas on a daily basis.

If the Chiefs suck ass next season, I'll survive. I've been a fan for 30 years.

Naw man. You gotta have 22 ProBowlers before you can expect your team to win more than 8 games. We only had what 8? LMAO What a clown.

BigMeatballDave 04-01-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9547426)
Playing the weakest sched. in the league. Chiefs won't have that benefit next season.

And Reid is an abortion. The guy is living off past successes; he's been shit the last six seasons.

His teams won 11 in '09 and 10 in '10. Yeah, that's shit.

I do not expect this team to win much in the way of postseason games, but I do expect them to be much more competitive than last season.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9547452)
His teams won 11 in '09 and 10 in '10. Yeah, that's shit.

I do not expect this team to win much in the way of postseason games, but I do expect them to be much more competitive than last season.

Yup. Did anyone even watch the games last year? How are you going to win giving the ball away 4 times a week? The odd thing was Reid's Philly team had the same issue sinking his team.

BigMeatballDave 04-01-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9547465)
The odd thing was Reid's Philly team had the same issue sinking his team.

He did. Vick was about as bad as Cassel. Hopefully Alex isn't.

Sorter 04-01-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9547418)
yes there is, there are tons of holes

no RB depth
tons of oline questions
no starting ILB
no ILB depth
zero OLB depth
zero defensive line pass rush
no safety depth


and if you sit there and say guys like Cyrus Gray, Hussain Abdullah and Geoff Schwartz are the answers to these holes you need to really sit down and take a long look in the mirror about the turd stains you are talking about and expect production from

I love Cyrus.

Still would like a late round RB.

RealSNR 04-01-2013 06:54 PM

Fifty Shades of Cyrus Gray.

He will shove you against a wall, spread your legs apart, and forcefully thrust himself into your end zone

ceebz 04-01-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9547452)
His teams won 11 in '09 and 10 in '10. Yeah, that's shit.

Sweet did they do anything in the playoffs? No? Then who gives a ****?

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 06:58 PM

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 3m
Not gonna: Pretry amazing that in the end, Matt Flynn ends up with $6.5M guaranteed in 2013… & could make $15.25M over 2 years. Unreal.
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ceebz 04-01-2013 06:58 PM

I, too, like Cyrus. I think he has potential.

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-01-2013 07:00 PM

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 39s

Carson Palmer trade not finalized. Things "hit a snag" according to a source. Unsure if it can be overcome at this point ...

RealSNR 04-01-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9547418)
yes there is, there are tons of holes

no RB depth
tons of oline questions
no starting ILB
no ILB depth
zero OLB depth
zero defensive line pass rush
no safety depth


and if you sit there and say guys like Cyrus Gray, Hussain Abdullah and Geoff Schwartz are the answers to these holes you need to really sit down and take a long look in the mirror about the turd stains you are talking about and expect production from

The Super Bowl Champion Ravens relied on that fat lazy **** Bryant McKinnie as their starting LT, were comfortable with that brokedick Ray Lewis as the starting ILB at the beginning of the season, started Bernard ****ing Pollard and Ed Reed, who was always injured, and depended on a mid round rookie as Ray Rice's primary backup RB.

It's a miracle they even made the playoffs at all.

O.city 04-01-2013 07:02 PM

We need said pro bowlers to be stars and make plays.

BigMeatballDave 04-01-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9547501)
Sweet did they do anything in the playoffs? No? Then who gives a ****?

I don't give a ****, either.

However, a playoff loss > 2-14

OrtonsPiercedTaint 04-01-2013 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9547323)
Flynn is an unknown quantity at this point. He may have potential, he may suck. At least there's a chance the kid could be good. We already know what Alex ****ing Smith is all about.

MF really went south after that last lateral.

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 07:03 PM

Ya it hit a snag because they probably know he's getting cut.

O.city 04-01-2013 07:04 PM

It's fun to sit here and say "blah blah Superbowl this that" but in reality, we've been the worse franchise in the NFL the past 6 years or so, with a blip in there somewhere.

Getting to consistently winning 8 or 9 games would be a major improvement.

ceebz 04-01-2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9547517)
I don't give a ****, either.

However, a playoff loss > 2-14

Yay. 9-7 and a wild card loss every year with a brokedick backup QB parading around as a starter. It's the 90's all over again.

O.city 04-01-2013 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9547530)
Yay. 9-7 and a wild card loss every year with a brokedick backup QB parading around as a starter. It's the 90's all over again.

Considering where we've been the past decade, that wouldn't be a terrible thing. The problem in the 90's wasn't what we built, it was not trying to improve the QB position.


This regime won't make that mistake. Atleast, I hope not.

BigMeatballDave 04-01-2013 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9547530)
Yay. 9-7 and a wild card loss every year with a brokedick backup QB parading around as a starter. It's the 90's all over again.

LMAO have you pulled all of your hair out, yet?

ceebz 04-01-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9547533)
LMAO have you pulled all of your hair out, yet?

Pretty much.

ceebz 04-01-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9547531)
Considering where we've been the past decade, that wouldn't be a terrible thing. The problem in the 90's wasn't what we built, it was not trying to improve the QB position.


This regime won't make that mistake. Atleast, I hope not.

The problem is, once you become one of those fringe playoff teams, it gets hard to upgrade the QB because moving up is so costly.

Taking a QB #1 is what you're supposed to do when you have the number one overall pick. Instead, this dipshit franchise traded away their 2nd rounder for Elvis Cassel.

BigMeatballDave 04-01-2013 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9547546)
The problem is, once you become one of those fringe playoff teams, it gets hard to upgrade the QB because moving up is so costly.

Taking a QB #1 is what you're supposed to do when you have the number one overall pick. Instead, this dipshit franchise traded away their 2nd rounder for Elvis Cassel.

Sometimes teams get lucky and players fall.

That's how the Packers got Rodgers.

Fact is, the Chiefs are a yr late on completely shitting the bed.

Imagine how exciting this would be if we had RG3 and Luck to choose from? :)

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-01-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9547407)
But, but, but the schedule!!! /Every Little Chiefy (thanks Sweet Dick) for the last 2 decades.

Lil Chiefy bout'ta get a taste of some sweet dark. In any case; wild card appearance or go suck mule dicks, as they will have achieved FAIL.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 04-01-2013 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9547418)
yes there is, there are tons of holes

no RB depth
tons of oline questions
no starting ILB
no ILB depth
zero OLB depth
zero defensive line pass rush
no safety depth


and if you sit there and say guys like Cyrus Gray, Hussain Abdullah and Geoff Schwartz are the answers to these holes you need to really sit down and take a long look in the mirror about the turd stains you are talking about and expect production from

Nope. You go "win now", dont try and feed me one GAT damned excuse. Unacceptable.
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