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Bray's mechanics are total shit
he changes his arm angles on every throw and he often does't use his legs to throw at all. maybe his ego will take such a hit about not being drafted that he will actually take coaching now. :shrug: |
Bray's a head case and has shit mechanics. He's also got one of the best arms on the planet.
If anybody can get him to get his shit together, it's Reid. He's a wilder animal than Cutler...I think young Favre is his ceiling. Ryan Leaf is his floor. Of course, he didn't cost you anything, so it's totally worth a shot. He's got more ability than any other QB in this draft. |
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With a guy like Bray you don't need to turn him all the way into a finished product, but if he gets some playing time and shows improvement in his footwork, throwing motion, football smarts - all things that can be coached - he could bring a return. We don't lose anything but Stanzi. |
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Tyler Bray signs with Kansas City Chiefs By Chris Wesseling Around the League Writer Published: <abbr id="article-time" class="value" title="2013-04-28T12:22:00-0400" style="border: 0px; font-variant: normal;">April 28, 2013 at 12:22 p.m.</abbr> Updated: <abbr id="article-updatedtime" class="value" title="2013-04-28T12:30:12-0400" style="border: 0px; font-variant: normal;">April 28, 2013 at 12:30 p.m.</abbr><abbr id="article-time" class="value" title="2013-04-28T12:22:00-0400" style="border: 0px; font-variant: normal;"></abbr> The Kansas City Chiefs didn't pick up a quarterback in the 2013 NFL Draft, but they may have landed the best arm available this year. The Chiefs signed Tennessee's Tyler Bray, reports ESPN's Adam Schefter. Expected to be a mid-round draft pick, Bray has all of the measurables of an NFL starter. At 6-foot-6 and 230 pounds, Bray produced the Scouting Combine's best peak ball speed at 59 mph. "This kid can rip it," NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock said at the Combine. "He's got a live arm, man." Bray's accuracy was scattershot and his pocket presence suspect at Tennessee, but it's maturity issues that kept him from being drafted. Bray reportedly turned off NFL teams with his inability to correctly identify plays on the whiteboard during the interview process. "There's a lot of refinement that needs to take place," ESPN analyst Jon Gruden said. "He's got to learn how to manage some situations better. He's got to deliver at crunch time. He's got to polish his game. I think his preparation needs to increase." Bray isn't going to challenge Alex Smith for the starting job any time soon, but head coach Andy Reid has picked up the most intriguing arm talent available this year. Follow Chris Wesseling on Twitter @ChrisWesseling. |
Tyler Bray Scouting Report
By Charlie Campbell Strengths: Cannon for an arm Quick release Plus mechanics Big pocket presence Great height Can make all the throws Good deep-ball thrower Experience in a pro offense Field vision is at a good starting point Has the potential to compete quickly Displays a gunslinger mentality Huge upside Weaknesses: Accuracy issues Footwork needs real improvement Decision-making Ball security; prone to interceptions Not consistent; streaky during games and from week-to-week Off-the-field maturity problems Leadership skills? Intangibles Needs to gain weight Lacks mobility, won't make plays with his feet Summary: Bray has all the physical skills to be a good NFL quarterback. He has a powerful arm that can make all the throws in every level of the defense. He has great height to see the field and good pocket presence. There is no doubt that Bray has a powerful arm to beat NFL defensive backs and he clearly has the talent to develop into a starter. Still, Bray is very much a work in progress. He really has to improve his accuracy and decision-making. If Bray can get more uniform with his feet that would really help him to throw more passes on the money. At times Bray will throw perfect passes downfield, so he has displayed the potential to be an accurate quarterback. If Bray can mimic the feet of Peyton Manning that could go along way to vastly improving his accuracy. As a junior in 2012, Bray had a bunch of uneven games. He had a great start to the season with a huge game against North Carolina State. He targeted and abused one the nation's top cornerbacks, David Amerson, with two long touchdown passes. Bray was 27-of-41 for 333 yards and two touchdowns versus the Wolfpack. He had some struggles against Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi State. There was no legitimate reason for it but Bray was benched against Vanderbilt. He had huge performances against South Carolina, Troy and Missouri. In 2012 Bray completed 59 percent of his passes this season, collecting 3,612 yards, 34 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. Bray completed 59 percent of his passes as as sophomore in 2011, totaling 1,983 yards with 17 touchdowns and six interceptions. He had a hand/thumb injury that caused him to miss five games and hurt him down the stretch. Bray completed 55.8 percent of his passes as a freshman for 1,849 yards with 18 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. It is clear that Bray is a pocket passer. He is not a mobile quarterback and is not a threat to pick up yards on the ground. His line is going to be under more pressure to give Bray a clean pocket. In college Bray struggled with his decision-making at times. He was repeatedly hurt by dropped passes and Tennessee's program had a lot of turmoil over the last few seasons. Bray wasn't in the best place to succeed and make the most of his physical talents. However, NFL coaches are going to like the teaching he received from Jim Chaney at Tennessee. Chaney is well regarded in the NFL and has given Bray preparation in a pro style offense. If Bray is developed well, he could turn into a quality starting quarterback in the NFL. Because Bray is a project with some significant accuracy issues to overcome, he'll probably fall to the second day of the draft. Bray would be best in a pro-style offense with a lot of downfield passing based off of play-action with a quality running game. A West Coast offense wouldn't be as good of a fit for Bray. |
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Being undrafted should send a message.
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Watch gruden camp peaks and valleys so true
I love this quote and this is what gives me hope "I want to win I hate to lose". At least he has a fighting spirit. |
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They need to force him to admit that being an douche that doesn't take coaching is going to cost him everything if he doesn't change. |
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What is considered the better QB draft class? 2013 or 2014? Honest question.
I ask because I, like many of you, browsed through numerous mock drafts this year. Tons of them. And I didn't limit myself to 2013. I checked out my share of 2014 mock drafts as well...out of boredom. I began checking these out when it was widely speculated that Bray would not enter the draft until 2014. One thing that I found interesting was that if Tyler Bray were included in a 2013 mock draft, he'd generally be projected as being a mid-to-late round pick and there would be a blurb stating, "major character concerns, yada, yada, yabba-dabba-doo." In the 2014 mock drafts he was included in, often times generated by the SAME people who had him projected as mid-to-late in 2013, he was projected to go 1,2 or 3 overall by most of them. And the majority of them would write a blurb, "Bray will have another year of college under his belt to mature and eliminate character concerns and should be the top prospect in 2014, yada, yada, yabba-dabba-doo." I don't think I saw a 2014 mock draft that consisted of Bray, in which he was projected anywhere below the top 5 overall....and my sample size wasn't small...I read many of them. I want to know what....in.....the......hell....is up with that shit? I thought the 2013 QB draft class was "extremely weak?" Is 2014 supposed to be worse? Shit just doesn't add up. I just think it's odd that he was generally considered a mid-to-late round pick in one of the "weakest" QB draft classes, but generally considered an elite QB prospect for the 2014 draft...with both years' "blurbs" about him referencing his character concerns. I mean seriously, would that extra year have made THAT much of a difference? I don't get it.... Lol...we got him as an UDFA this year...I don't care what anyone says, considering that we lost nothing by acquiring him, this signing has POTENTIAL of being a freaking steal. Yeah he's presumably gonna have a few sword-fights with his own personal dumb-stick that seems to get the best of him at times, but I don't care. Hopefully his drop into UDFA will humble him a bit and become the determining factor that prompts him to make a legit effort to become more mature. I hope he takes an initiative to actively learn and plays with a chip on his shoulder. I've met plenty of dumbass 21 year old kids like Tyler who when in a transitional phases of their lives, unexpectedly stepped up and made abrupt 180's in terms of their attitudes and overall approach to life. I don't know Bray personally, so I have no reason to believe that he doesn't have a chance to overcome his dumbassery. He's only twenty-freaking one years old, for crying out loud. God, at 30 years old now, I cringe when I think about how crazy, impulsive and irresponsible I was at that age. I'm not like that anymore...my transitional phase in life was having kids. Hopefully one of his transitional phases in life is being in the NFL and trying to GET PAID someday if he ever earns a chance to play and performs well. |
No one should have a problem with this signing at all...
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Going undrafted was potentially the best thing that could have happened to him. As well as being a massive hit to the wallet, it has to be a huge hit to the ego of a guy who's probably been told that he walks on water for most of his life and had opportunities handed to him since an early age. And maybe even bigger than that is the fact that there's a Sword of Damocles hanging over him as an undrafted player that just wouldn't exist if he'd been a draft pick.
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Boom or bust guy
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Smoking bath salts? |
Btw, where is :
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qIdxc0EEs4...s400/token.jpg ?????? I'm waiting patiently to hear what he says about his claim that he would jump ship from the Jags and come aboard the Chiefs. LMAO |
Small amount of faith returning in Reid/Dorsey.
Although, admittedly everything I've read about him suggests he's just a younger Jamarcus Russell. |
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to the ship!
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Adam Teicher @adamteicher 33s
#Chiefs have indeed sign Tyler Bray. Interesting mix now at QB. Smith, Daniel, Bray, Stanzi, Tanney. Probably won't take 5 to camp |
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Adam Teicher @adamteicher 34s
Think job is Bray's to lose. MT @SportsTalkKC: @adamteicher so you think Bray is third on the depth chart going into camp? |
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I actually like the reason why KC took Knile Davis. All these other RB's being taken around him are likely backs looked upon to start very quickly in their careers. Davis has that potential but KC took him to be the back-up and a potential starter down the road. Definite boom or bust type of pick. We are just hoping he rebounds back to his 2010 form before he got injured. If we would have taken one of the other quality backs, people would be questioning why were were taking a starter and putting him on the bench behind Charles.
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If they are smart, they will have Reid and Pederson work with Daniels and Smith while Brad Childress works almost exclusively with Tyler Bray to get his brain up to the level his physical talent is so that he can take over in 2014-2015 as a true franchise quarterback.
After all, isn't Brads title something like "director of special projects"? |
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But I had no idea that was a PC way of saying Special Education. |
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you described when JC is done. |
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you described when JC is done. |
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Boners for everyone! |
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This is a unique situation. I can't remember a time when a quarterback this talented went undrafted. |
Jack Harry is saying Bray signing can't be confirmed, and Bray isn't talking.
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You would think that if it wasn't true that brays party would deny the signing
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Does bray have a twitter account?
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Jack Harry is the furthest thing from a news source you could have. I think I would take blackmon's word over his
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Teicher confirmed the Bray signing
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Wonderlics:
Tyler Bray: 24 Dan Marino: 16 Donovan McNabb: 14 I don't know much about Bray really but based on his wonderlic he's not as dumb as some are suggesting. |
Harry has no sources. I guarantee you that what he means by, Brays not talking, is we looked at his twitter account to see if he's said anything.
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Now, I'm on board with your thesis, if this doesn't wake him up and cause him to get his head in order he will be bagging groceries, regardless of his natural talent. If that happens and he gets some good coaching....ya never know. And if he never gets it together, no draft pick wasted and no cap hit taken. Many a naturally talented athlete has failed due to arrogance and being a head case. |
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