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BossChief 05-02-2013 07:28 PM

Of course he is looking good...he's facing Jalil Brown.

Just like training camp 2012.

-King- 05-02-2013 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9653736)
Of course he is looking good...he's facing Jalil Brown.

Just like training camp 2012.

Jalil Brown was actually the one who gave him the most trouble last year.
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splatbass 05-02-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9652512)
What good is an All-World line if you don't have a playmaker at quarterback behind them?

What good is a playmaker at QB if you don't have a good OL to protect him?

-King- 05-02-2013 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9653993)
What good is a playmaker at QB if you don't have a good OL to protect him?

I don't know. Ask Aaron Rodgers.

ChiefAshhole20 05-02-2013 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9653665)
being the rational adult that I am

I said Alex Smith lies somewhere between Trent Dilfer and Trent Green. Dilfer being his floor, Green being his ceiling.

the kicking and screaming over this is ridiculous now...CLEARLY, there were no QB's to take in this year's draft that would have been an immediate improvement over Matt Cassel. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't have a single QB on their draft board...

so it's who cares now?

Reid is paid to ****ing win. Dorsey is paid to ****ing win. They gave a few picks for the best available QB (key word: available).

I realize CP doesn't understand the draft, at all...(not one bit)...

so again (and I have never received a rebuttal to this point)...

please go over the past 10 years of drafts and research picks 30-45 and then report back on how often you find a pro bowl caliber player with those picks

please use percentages

because people are acting like these two 2nds for Smith was like trading 2 all-pros for the damn guy when in reality AT THE VERY WORST we traded Brandon Flowers and say Dexter McCluster for Alex Smith.

And with the way KC drafted this year in the mid-rounds, it may have actually been a blessing that we gave away that second round pick. They probably would've wasted it on Gio Bernard or Zach Ertz.

Anyong Bluth 05-02-2013 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9653993)
What good is a playmaker at QB if you don't have a good OL to protect him?

Finally someone else mentioned it because I wanted to see if anyone else found the irony that a Chargers fan would post this when their QB was getting manhandled all last year and gave them no protection to use those "supposed" weapons.
Maybe one of the few arguments that beady eyed **** actually had to justify some of his classic on field temper tantrums or misplaced fits of rage he displays that make him look like such a runny little sour-twat.

Baby Lee 05-03-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9653673)
Even if you believe that drafting a "great" player in the second is a statistical long shot, the bigger problem is that teams still (and rightfully so) highly value the picks.

Thus, paying two second-round picks for Smith shows, from my perspective, a commitment. Even if he plays at a mediocre level, I don't see the Chiefs essentially flushing this investment.

Rather, they'll throw more resources at the situation, thus further exasperating the problem.

exacerbating != exasperating.

Mr_Tomahawk 05-03-2013 10:12 AM

Evan Silva‏@evansilva2m
5 most worrisome left tackle situations: 1. #Chargers, Dunlap 2. #Dolphins, Martin 3. #Cardinals, Brown 4. #Lions, Reiff 5. #Packers, Bulaga

Mother****erJones 05-03-2013 10:19 AM

I'd hold the dolphins fins to the fire if they end up wanting Albert. Though I'd be very happy re-signing Albert

Marcellus 05-03-2013 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9654004)
I don't know. Ask Aaron Rodgers.

I am 100% certain GB would be better off and Aaron Rodgers would love to have 1 decent tackle let alone 2.

Dude's career is going to be shortened 5 years at the rate he is getting plowed.

raypec85 05-03-2013 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9654879)
I'd hold the dolphins fins to the fire if they end up wanting Albert. Though I'd be very happy re-signing Albert

LMAO

HemiEd 05-03-2013 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9652628)
you can't be serious

I think Hog Farmer has resorted to trolling.

HemiEd 05-03-2013 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9652960)
Trent Green wasn't average.
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He sure wasn't a franchise QB just because he was one of the best of all the retread/rejects this team has had on it's roster for the last 30 years.

saphojunkie 05-03-2013 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9654949)
He sure wasn't a franchise QB just because he was one of the best of all the retread/rejects this team has had on it's roster for the last 30 years.

Hmm, let me think about this.

Last year:
  • ten QBs had ratings above 90.
  • only five QBs threw over 30 TD.
  • Only one (Drew Brees) threw 40 TD.
  • Only five starting QB had more INT than TD. (Cassel is easily at the bottom. 6 TD and 12 INT. ****ing piece of shit).


Now, here are Trent Green's best four years:

GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT
16 287 470 61.1 ... 3,690 7.85 26 99 13 0 -- 92.6
16 330 523 63.1 ... 4,039 7.72 24 67 12 4 -- 92.6
16 369 556 66.4 ... 4,591 8.26 27 70 17 10 -- 95.2
16 317 507 62.5 ...4,014 7.92 17 60 10 5 -- 90.1


His averages over his four best years would have (last season) made him:


#9 Rating
#14 TD
#4 YPA
#8 Yards Thrown
#9 CMP %

His statistics during his best year would have made him:

#9 Rating
#7 TD
#7 Yards
#4 CP%
#2 YPA


So, I think it is fair to say that he was an above average QB whose OL allowed him to play at a very high level - to 10 in almost every category. If he had thrown a handful more screens to Priest Holmes instead of the toss sweep, he'd be elite in TD also.

Playoff wins kept Green from being elite. But he absolutely was a franchise QB until his brain got scrambled.

Rausch 05-03-2013 11:22 AM

So Albert is still here and he's playing LT?

Just checking...

Lightrise 05-03-2013 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9653504)
Also Dorsey said today that he has reached out to Alberts representatives and will continue to do so so rhey can get a long term deal worked out. Also said Albert is a hell of a football player and everybody thought they were just going to give him away.

He did a interview with 810 sports on Outside The Lines.

Just listening to him you know he loves his job. Said we could have 2 FBs on this roster and Baldwin could be used more in the slot.

Dorsey is truly fresh air. I loved his news conference where he spoke of one of the draft picks saying he wouldn't let him down speaking in a low voice like the player...LOL Man that is the kind of dialogue an NFL team needs to provide to its fans, especially people like Chiefs fans. Things are changing big time in KC, thank goodness. From top to bottom you can most definitely see subtle changes at each position to change the dynamics. I think some of these moves are specifically designed for special teams.

alpha_omega 05-03-2013 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9654863)
Evan Silva‏@evansilva2m
5 most worrisome left tackle situations: 1. #Chargers, Dunlap 2.....

That is not worrisome for Chiefs fans. Hope he is the starter.

Buckweath 05-03-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9653155)
Hali had one great season. But the majority of his years have been average to below average. I used Hali b/c I see Jordan as Hali, maybe a little better, possibly quite a bit worse. I certainly wouldn't consider Hali a #1 overall pick pass rusher.

What? Hali has been good to very good for several years now.

ILChief 05-03-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9655003)
So Albert is still here and he's playing LT?

Just checking...

Barring a trade, yes

-King- 05-03-2013 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9653155)
Hali had one great season. But the majority of his years have been average to below average.

LMAOLMAOLMAO What?

Hammock Parties 05-03-2013 02:18 PM

only on CP are 12 sack seasons "average"

why do I have to be a homer for the good players on our roster, simply because true fans want to stroke off the new regime?

it's all weird and gets my wires crossed

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-03-2013 02:31 PM

Next, Flowers will be "serviceable".
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Mother****erJones 05-03-2013 02:44 PM

Hali average? ROFL

The Bad Guy 05-03-2013 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9655185)
LMAOLMAOLMAO What?

Hali's been fantastic. No doubt about it.

1 good year? What the **** is he watching?

TomBarndtsTwin 05-03-2013 02:51 PM

Derrick Johnson is a good run-stuffing MLB . . . .

Justin Houston is up and coming . . . .

Jamaal Charles may one day be an 'elite' RB . . . . .

Mr. Arrowhead 05-03-2013 02:51 PM

Jamaal Charles is ok of a player

TomBarndtsTwin 05-03-2013 02:55 PM

Dwayne Bowe is a good blocking WR . . . .

bevischief 05-03-2013 05:24 PM

The sky is blue.

penbrook 05-03-2013 05:27 PM

Jamaal Charles will be a hall of famer. Count on that.

Mr_Tomahawk 05-03-2013 05:28 PM

Cut our punter... They are a dime a dozen.

Tribal Warfare 05-03-2013 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9655592)
Cut our punter... They are a dime a dozen.

No, no one touches the MVP

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-03-2013 09:51 PM

This turd was made for whack-in',
and that's just what we'll do...
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Mother****erJones 05-03-2013 10:53 PM

Jamaal Charles is too small

AussieChiefsFan 05-03-2013 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9655592)
Cut our punter... They are a dime a dozen.

:spock:

-King- 05-03-2013 11:02 PM

Justin Houston is a one year wonder. Trade him this year to get some value out of him.

The Bad Guy 05-03-2013 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9655590)
Jamaal Charles will be a hall of famer. Count on that.

Yeah, probably not.

splatbass 05-03-2013 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9654949)
He sure wasn't a franchise QB just because he was one of the best of all the retread/rejects this team has had on it's roster for the last 30 years.

How much better than #1 offense in the league do you think he should have been? The problem with that team was not QB.

Anyong Bluth 05-03-2013 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9656289)
Justin Houston is a one year wonder. Trade him this year to get some value out of him.

Agreed. 2 6th rounders, and a conditional 7th seems fair.

-King- 05-03-2013 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9655590)
Jamaal Charles will be a hall of famer. Count on that.

No...he wont.

AussieChiefsFan 05-03-2013 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9656319)
No...he wont.

No? No chance at all?

-King- 05-03-2013 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9656322)
No? No chance at all?

Like 10% chance which is more than the vast majority of players.

But, no he's not going in. He'd need SEVERAL more years of elite production to even be considered.

AussieChiefsFan 05-03-2013 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9656324)
Like 10% chance which is more than the vast majority of players.

But, no he's not going in. He'd need SEVERAL more years of elite production to even be considered.

I'm not saying he's a HOFer yet. But he has time, and he is great.

-King- 05-03-2013 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9656330)
I'm not saying he's a HOFer yet. But he has time, and he is great.

I don't think you understand what he has to do to become a hall of famer.

penbrook 05-03-2013 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9656335)
I don't think you understand what he has to do to become a hall of famer.

Apparently leading NFL History in YPC doesnt count towards the players hall of fame chances.

-King- 05-04-2013 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9656345)
Apparently leading NFL History in YPC doesnt count towards the players hall of fame chances.

Yeah not really. Thats like saying Pennington should be in the HOF just because hes the NFL leader in completion percentage.
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penbrook 05-04-2013 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9656435)
Yeah not really. Thats like saying Pennington should be in the HOF just because hes the NFL leader in completion percentage.
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Im just saying that it should be taken under consideration

-King- 05-04-2013 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9657112)
Im just saying that it should be taken under consideration

It will be, if he has enough yards and touchdowns first. And he likely won't.

penbrook 05-04-2013 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9657153)
It will be, if he has enough yards and touchdowns first. And he likely won't.

The touchdowns part no. Hell Tebow has more rushing TDs than Charles the last 3 years.

Charles will consistently put up 1,500 + yards a season with our beast of a o line.

I have a feeling we will be rushing more than what people think.

Hammock Parties 05-05-2013 12:30 PM

Signed?

http://instagram.com/p/Y787lCyDtR/

http://i.imgur.com/9SkJ3O5.jpg

Rausch 05-05-2013 12:33 PM

Once he realizes he won't get ****ed on the money he'll be fine playing anywhere...

Marcellus 05-05-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9659117)

The comments are very very interesting.

O.city 05-05-2013 12:36 PM

Hopefully we signed him.


Lock up the lg spot

Hammock Parties 05-05-2013 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9659123)
Hopefully we signed him.


Lock up the lg spot

http://i.imgur.com/UPso2.gif

O.city 05-05-2013 12:40 PM

He's too injury prone to play LG anyway

Tribal Warfare 05-05-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9659123)
Hopefully we signed him.


Lock up the lg spot

or Miami did trade for him since he does have a house there

Rausch 05-05-2013 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9659220)
or Miami did trade for him since he does have a house there

Ok...

Sure-Oz 05-05-2013 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9659220)
or Miami did trade for him since he does have a house there

Why would he hashtag #chiefs or #chiefsnation if he did that? that said he did #itwasfun

nychief 05-05-2013 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 9659235)
Why would he hashtag #chiefs or #chiefsnation if he did that

he either signed a new deal OR has decided to report.

Tribal Warfare 05-05-2013 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 9659235)
Why would he hashtag #chiefs or #chiefsnation if he did that

or "ItWASFun"

just sayin

Sure-Oz 05-05-2013 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9659239)
or "ItWASFun"

just sayin

Just caught that....really interesting actually

BossChief 05-05-2013 01:12 PM

I'm unfamiliar with instagram...did Albert type in the #chiefsnation #kcchiefs after the stuff he typed?

Sure-Oz 05-05-2013 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9659243)
I'm unfamiliar with instagram...did Albert type in the #chiefsnation #kcchiefs after the stuff he typed?

Yeah, its almost like a 'goodbye' really odd message.

Rain Man 05-05-2013 01:15 PM

The Dolphins just signed Tyson Clabo at tackle: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...152343314.html


Dolphins’ search for an offensive tackle ends with Tyson Clabo

The Miami Dolphins' nearly two-month search for a veteran offensive tackle will end with the team signing Tyson Clabo.

Clabo's agent, Chad Speck, announced the impending transaction on Twitter.

Miami had a void at the tackle position after allowing four-time Pro Bowl left tackle Jake Long to hit unrestricted free agency, where he signed a four-year, $34 million contract with the St. Louis Rams. By signing Clabo, the Dolphins appear set to move 2012 second-round pick Jonathan Martin to the left side, a position he struggled at while filling in for an injured Long during his rookie season.

The Dolphins had been interested in franchised Kansas City Chiefs left tackle Branden Albert, even bringing him in for a visit before the 2013 NFL draft, but the Dolphins and Chiefs could not agree to terms on a trade. Acquiring Albert would have allowed the team to keep Martin at right tackle, but based on their actions this offseason, the Dolphins appear confident that Martin can handle the task of protecting Ryan Tannehill's blind side.

Before Long officially left town, and before the interest in Albert heated up, the Dolphins were also interested in former Chiefs and Houston Texans offensive tackle Eric Winston, a University of Miami alum whose brother works in the Dolphins' scouting department. Like with Clabo, had the Dolphins signed Winston, Martin would have been on the move to the left side.

Clabo, 31, entered the NFL as an undrafted free agent in 2004 and bounced between the Denver Broncos, San Diego Chargers and New York Giants before spending most the 2005 season on the Atlanta Falcons' practice squad. From 2006 through 2012, Clabo started 101 games for the Falcons, including 91 straight, which is the fourth-longest active streak among offensive tackles.

The Falcons signed Clabo to a five-year, $25 million extension following the 2011 lockout, a deal that paid out $11.5 million over the first two seasons. The Falcons released Clabo in April, designating him as a "post-June 1" release, which allows them to spread out his cap hit over the next two seasons. Clabo still takes up $6.05 million in space on the Falcons' cap, but that will reduce to $1.55 million on June 2 and he will count $3.1 million against the Falcons' 2014 cap.

Clabo was scheduled to earn $4.5 million from the Falcons this season and he is unlikely to make that up in his deal with the Dolphins. Miami had just over $10 million in cap room remaining this offseason and, as reported by "Shutdown Corner" on Friday, have the league's highest rookie pool number. The Dolphins likely leveraged the mutual interest in Winston to get Clabo to accept a team-friendly contract, perhaps even one for the veteran minimum ($840,000 base salary plus $65,000 in assorted bonuses).

Sure-Oz 05-05-2013 01:16 PM

Clabo plays RT and Martin will play LT and get Tannehill destroyed. If they dont make a move that dumbass GM should get canned. Look up highlights of jonathan martin last year.

Direckshun 05-05-2013 01:16 PM

For what it's worth, the closest team to where he grew up is the Bills.

If he's "coming home," that's an option.

Sassy Squatch 05-05-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9659264)
For what it's worth, the closest team to where he grew up is the Bills.

If he's "coming home," that's an option.

Nah. I would've heard something by now.

Mr_Tomahawk 05-05-2013 01:19 PM

Albert trolling cp

penbrook 05-05-2013 01:22 PM

Per Jason La Canfora

Clabo going to Dolphins will just about put a steak knife through any chance of a deal with KC for Branden Albert.

BossChief 05-05-2013 01:22 PM

Ftr I've seen him refer to KC as home a lot of times.

The "it was fun" was probably the time off in south beach and that it's time to get back to work

Sassy Squatch 05-05-2013 01:25 PM

Hope we hear something soon anyway.

Rausch 05-05-2013 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9659287)
Per Jason La Canfora

Clabo going to Dolphins will just about put a steak knife through any chance of a deal with KC for Branden Albert.

Awww......shucks.

Sure-Oz 05-05-2013 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9659289)
Ftr I've seen him refer to KC as home a lot of times.

The "it was fun" was probably the time off in south beach and that it's time to get back to work

Good way of looking at it...

Rain Man 05-05-2013 01:31 PM

If we can put both Albert and Fisher at left tackle, no one will be able to stop Charles on runs in that direction.

JoeyChuckles 05-05-2013 01:32 PM

Mr. Belding says what is going on here?

Rain Man 05-05-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles (Post 9659322)
Mr. Belding says what is going on here?

We drafted Branden Albert.

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-05-2013 01:41 PM

hahahaha! Goin' nowhere/playin' LT; deeeeeeeal with it.
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Mav 05-05-2013 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9659347)
hahahaha! Goin' nowhere/playin' LT; deeeeeeeal with it.
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that seems like a good thing for the chiefs.....

Direckshun 05-05-2013 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9659320)
If we can put both Albert and Fisher at left tackle, no one will be able to stop Charles on runs in that direction.

I don't know if Alex Smith is tall enough to throw over Fisher on Albert's shoulders.

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-05-2013 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9659383)
that seems like a good thing for the chiefs.....

It is.
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O.city 05-05-2013 07:33 PM

So been out and about, any new news on this?


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