Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12702401)

What do you propose? Waste all our talent gambling on an unproven rookie? Bring back Daniel? Trade for Geno? Trade for kaepernick?

You're buying into the idiocy flooding this site.

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12702409)

It's all Charles' fault!

LMAO

Originally Posted by JCharles25 (Post 12702420)

dont forget hill, maclin, ware, kelce, the o line, houston, hali, berry, peters, reid, dorsey, the hot dog vendors, the sky line, and the tailgaters

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12702402)

He played a much better defense, on the road, and still converted when he had to, which Alex did not until the last drive...

I'm done with this discussion, or whatever the hell this is.

Originally Posted by JCharles25 (Post 12702420)

dont forget hill, maclin, ware, kelce, the o line, houston, hali, berry, peters, reid, dorsey, the hot dog vendors, the sky line, and the tailgaters

Originally Posted by Go Royals (Post 12702429)

This is the first year the Chiefs can realistically move on from this shitstain. The meltdown tigger has is gonna be hall worthy

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12702344)

Yeah I read the link. Anyone with half a brain with common sense knows that Smith was concussed and the team held him out.

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12702431)

Better defense? Are you out of your mind? Leveon bell ran for 170 yards and Roeth made terrible throws and YOU want to make the argument he outplayed Smith?

What a joke.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12702452)

So now the Steelers have a better defense than the Chiefs...

Maybe your hottest take in the last month.

This isn't about just one game dude. Alex has been the same for since 2013, and it ain't enough to get us over the hump.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12702458)

Bottom 5 run defense that gives up 170 yards to Leveon Bell doesn't qualify for a good defense. If you watched any football, you would know this Steeler secondary was revamped throughout the season and are playing excellent football.

You don't win 9 straight because your defense sucks ****.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12702465)

Yeah, but you can win several straight with an average at best unit. Just ask the Chiefs about their offense over the last couple years.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12702478)

Defense wins championships. Even if we beat Pitt, we were destined to fail in the final two games with our run defense being shit and our pass rush being non-existent.

You fix one of the two next season and if our corners continue to play well...we can easily go the distance.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12702484)

Easily go the distance? Nothing will be easy with the offense in its current state. Impossible? No, but it'll be quite the uphill battle with Smith under center.

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12702502)

TU may be the eventual undoing of CP, I hope whoever lets this shit continue is happy with it.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12702512)

You recall that when this place behaved like you are now back when we were 2-2, the team went on to finish 12-4. Just like at 1-5 in 2015, I stood by this team then everybody jumped back on the bandwagon when we won 10 straight.

Quit being ignorant. Drop the kool-aid.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12702484)

Easily go the distance? Nothing will be easy with the offense in its current state. Impossible? No, but it'll be quite the uphill battle with Smith under center.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12702598)

Enjoy watching these great QBs today, Tiger. This is what championship level QB play looks like. Not what we've seen from Alex.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12702661)

This is the BEST argument you can come up with? You think an ELITE qb will just magically fall into our lap in the next 3 seasons meanwhile all of our veterans will be moving on or retired...

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12702363)

So you're endorsing spam on this forum in response to posts that actually dress the OP. That would be a violation of TOS you are promoting. If you want to censor opposing views, I would suggest you spend more time at alt right meetings.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12702703)

My God man let go of the veteran argument. You act like the Chiefs haven't drafted Peters, Jones, Kelce, Hill or any of the other young spectacular talent that is here and should be for the long haul. Do you think because Hali, Charles, or DJ retire that the Chiefs will all of the sudden not have good players?

I'm not even suggesting an elite QB to be a must. With this team, just a tier 2 guy would be enough to get them over the hump.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12702735)

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12702735)

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12702512)

You recall that when this place behaved like you are now back when we were 2-2, the team went on to finish 12-4. Just like at 1-5 in 2015, I stood by this team then everybody jumped back on the bandwagon when we won 10 straight.

Quit being ignorant. Drop the kool-aid.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12702746)

So, Tyrod Taylor is a better QB than Alex Smith.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12702386)

We ****ing pay Alex 16 mil a year and haven't received shit in return.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12702816)

Numbers in every sport except baseball mean jack.

Especially made up numbers like QBR.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12702824)

You want to argue with interception rate, completion percentage, win percentage??

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12702831)

What about hidden touchdowns and playoff win percentage?

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12702824)

You want to argue with interception rate, completion percentage, win percentage??

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12702347)

They sold out to stop Jay Ajayi (4.9 ypc this season), one of the best RB"s in the league and held him to 2.1 ypc in that playoff game...They knew matt moore was going to shit the bed when the game was on the line.

Did you watch the game? I will go with....NO.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12702392)

How many TD's did roeth throw on us cause you're making it sound like he outplayed Smith...?

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12702831)

What about touchdowns and playoff win percentage?

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12702502)

TU may be the eventual undoing of CP, I hope whoever lets this shit continue is happy with it.

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 12702908)

I suspect that those that live by the the regular season win percentage ignore the playoffs win percentage.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12702917)

Matt Ryan just threw for more yardage in a half than Alex Smith did in 16 of 18 full games.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12702930)

Kinda like the yards vs. points debate.

I was told recently that yards given up by a defense doesn't matter - only points matter.

Shockingly, go back a few posts and read about how bad the defense is because they gave up 170 yards to Bell.

Some folks - well, at least one - can't even keep his arguments straight.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12702930)

Kinda like the yards vs. points debate.

I was told recently that yards given up by a defense doesn't matter - only points matter.

Shockingly, go back a few posts and read about how bad the defense is because they gave up 170 yards to Bell.

Some folks - well, at least one - can't even keep his arguments straight.

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 12702969)

I suspect he deliberately does so to be a troll.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12702917)

Matt Ryan just threw for more yardage in a half than Alex Smith did in 16 of 18 full games.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12702942)

I remember when half of CP voted for Alex Smith over Matt Ryan regarding which QB they rather have LMAO

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12702917)

Matt Ryan just threw for more yardage in a half than Alex Smith did in 16 of 18 full games.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12702917)

Matt Ryan just threw for more yardage in a half than Alex Smith did in 16 of 18 full games.

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12703130)

LMAO

Tigger getting owned from every angle.

What a punk.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12703137)

He is in the phone now with Bob Dole asking for more bannings.

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12703190)

LMAO

I have a feeling Tigger's off season is going to be very short.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12703504)

I'll be in puerto vallarta next month followed by Greece during this offseason leading up to the NFL draft so you guys get what you want and I get what I want.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12703562)

I don't expect Smith to be Brady, but Brady is showing that there are yards EVERYWHERE against this shit house secondary.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12695291)

Let me go get the playbook that Andy gave me....

....shit, guess I can't find it.

What I can say is that yes, I did play WR in high school and to this day can still tell you my route tree. And yes, I know quite a bit about the game and am absolutely certain that EVERYBODY is taught to look to their outside shoulder on a flag route (again, unless it's a designed back shoulder throw and nothing Maclin did in running his route suggests that it was).

Again, just think of the physical machinations involved in looking over your inside shoulder on that route. Your feet follow your shoulders and your shoulders follow your head - it's virtually impossible to stay on the correct track for a flag route if you turn your head inside; you'll flatten out that route every time.

So sadly, as I seem to have misplaced my 2017 Chiefs playbook, the best I can give you is a circumstantial case. 1) That was a flag route with a DB that had inside position on the WR. 2) WRs are taught to look to their outside shoulder on flag routes due to basic body mechanics and the fact that the route is usually set up to draw the WR to the inside and thus give the QB the boundary to throw at (and the WR can shield the DB away from the ball). 3) The throw was perfectly placed at the flag. 4) Maclin did nothing as he attempted to find the ball that suggested that he was supposed to do anything other than run under it and bring it in over a shoulder (virtually impossible and 100x more difficult to do from the inside shoulder). 5) Maclin has made several odd mistakes in routes this year and has recently admitted that he simply hasn't been right this year mentally or physically.

Absolutely every bit of circumstantial evidence and basic reasoning suggests that the throw was designed to go to the outside shoulder. It's a basic staple play. I've actually presented a case for it and the best anyone has said in response is....well nothing really. You're asking me to just assume that the guy that's had a pretty poor year made the right play when in fact every readily available piece of evidence suggests the opposite.

If you think Smith screwed up, by all means, give me something other than "well Maclin was open" as your argument. Because Smith threw the ball exactly where an open Maclin would've caught it and strolled into the end-zone had he simply looked over the other shoulder. Smith led Maclin, Maclin just didn't locate the ball.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12702917)

Matt Ryan just threw for more yardage in a half than Alex Smith did in 16 of 18 full games.

Originally Posted by Snica (Post 12703838)

Gee look what a competent QB does to this defense.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12703914)

And it's not like he's out there playing amazing football.

These are easy pitch/catch plays and they were everywhere for a QB that isn't feeling phantom pressure and refusing to release the ball.

I still think Trevor Seimien wins that game. Fireable performance from Smith, without question.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12704157)

The book is closed here, IMO. Time to move on.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12702512)

You recall that when this place behaved like you are now back when we were 2-2, the team went on to finish 12-4. Just like at 1-5 in 2015, I stood by this team then everybody jumped back on the bandwagon when we won 10 straight.

Quit being ignorant. Drop the kool-aid.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 11793024)

Gaines is out, Charles is out. Let's just tank this season. Trade away Daniel for a 2nd-3rd round pick and surrender a future 4th/5th. And pray we can build an elite defense for next season behind our strong front. Draft OL again (Sigh) and prepare West to be a split carries guy with Jamaal.

Plenty of options out there to bring in a WR2, such as Sanu or Jones which Bengals can't afford both in free agency.

Silver linings from today: The Jamaal injury is early in the season so he'll have 10 months to recover, we'll get a soft schedule next season, and we are set for a low draft pick.

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12704171)

Chris Hogan had more receiving yards against the Steelers than Alex Smith had passing yards.

Originally Posted by BeaverEater (Post 12704176)

LIE! LIE!! LIE!!!!

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...4&postcount=21



You are ****ing owned, bitch.

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12704172)

So what's the plan?

Originally Posted by BeaverEater (Post 12704176)

LIE! LIE!! LIE!!!!
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...4&postcount=21

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12704180)

Settle in for another wasted season with Smith at the helm.

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12704172)

So what's the plan?

Originally Posted by BeaverEater (Post 12704176)

LIE! LIE!! LIE!!!!

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...4&postcount=21



You are ****ing owned, bitch.