I agree, I think they would have cut ties with him long ago, via trade, or whatever.

I don't think the Titans or Steelers games have much to do with the way the Patriots run their organization. They are definitely better coached, but its that same coach that gets rid of all the "me before team" type players.

They've gotten rid of talented guys because of their personalities.

On defense this team is a wreck. Mahomes is used to that so maybe it's not a total disaster.

The second in 2019 is looking to be close to a third at this point.
Especially if LA progresses.

Just got here on CP after work...
1st..this deal sucks but apparently he needed to go..

2nd.... Who was the guy bitching everyone out about how we won’t hear what the compensation is till sometime in March because of Tampering??

:hmmm: hmmmm....

Nah, they did the right thing. Free market do not lie and Peters wasn't wanted. A 4 is much better than a 6, and a 2 next year, in a better draft class, will be ok. Peters would have made it worse over the next 2-3 months if his "demands" weren't met...

yeah i mean unless gurley or goff goes down, its looking like a LOW, LOW second rounder...ugghh

the only one exaggerating anything is you.

No one ever said he punched a hole in a wall

Difficult personalities tow the line there because they don't lose games like that, they win them.

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they didn't give up on him for nothing. I think your post shows what they are willing to deal with.

They booted his ass. Wouldnt that say he was much worse than them?

I'm trying to figure out how in the **** people thought that the compensation for Peters was "fair". Unreal.

Sure, that definitely helps, but the Patriots have been winning for well over a decade now and yet they still get rid of those personalities.

So that should tell you how bad Peters was

I hate the trade, trust me, but I believe the narrative goes like this ...”there was only one team interested, the rams. Once it was leaked that we were looking for a trade partner, we had to get rid of him or e would have been a far worse distraction than last year.”

Ha right! And Bill Maas and others said "fans would be pleased"! Give me a break!:cuss:

Do the chiefs get blame for waiting until value was zero? If this was building then it happened well before this years trade deadline. The chiefs weren't dealt some hand they had no control over.

You keep saying this but I don’t think you’re considering that it probably just went south really fast. This time last year they probably had no idea it would come to this. They probably didn’t even consider it till after the trade deadline.

The biggest mistake was taking a chance on the guy in the first place.

I think it depends on the perspective.

Was in fair in the sense that the Chiefs got back the right compensation for a player as talented as Peters? No, definitely not.

However, his personality is clearly a concern for not only the Chiefs, but for all the other teams that didn't even try to trade for him, as well.

Only one team made an offer. For a player as talented as Peters, that is pretty telling.

The market is only as high as what someone is willing to pay. The other 30 NFL teams didn't want to top the Rams offer, and the Chiefs clearly felt that was worth getting rid of him.

Definitely a tough pill to swallow, and I can certainly understand why people are upset over it, but just seems like NFL execs know a lot more about this guy than we do.

On those days there's nothing else to do in L.A., yes there are.

Why was this the best deal available?

Maybe. But then people keep saying it's been bubbling for three years. Can't be both ways. If it got that bad that quick I'd be even more inclined to call the bluff and let him sit out versus taking the deal we did. How much worse a deal would we really get a year from now? What a third coming back to us instead of a second?

I think they would have issued an ultimatum very early with Peters. Maybe Peters would have still been a brat. But at least they'd establish the line early. I think they would have stopped the problem well before the second meltdown.

Because the issues Peters had at Washington seem to not have gone away.

It doesn't even help to think that "he'll be on the hot seat"! :cuss:

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It’s incredible how you walk on both sides of the fence while throwing jabs at the side you don’t agree with

They would have stopped it, it might not have worked, but they would have stopped it.

While earlier post blames the fans, while saying Peter’s should have handled better, but the fans were super mean

I applaud your mastery of the fine art

Certainly possible.

That works with some people, while others, rebel even harder.

I find it very hard to believe the Chiefs haven't tried to reel Peters in before. I would guess they've tried an awful lot based on how talented he is, but just realized he doesn't care.

Sorry Wannabe Nick Athan, allow me to correct the record on the specific wording of your fake news bullshit.

You claimed that Marcus Peters punched a wall, but did not punch a hole in the wall:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=481

Its possible both sides are at fault, you know. Peters is a hothead and a powder keg. He shouldn't blow up like that. But the fans are the ones poking the guy with a stick. They aren't without blame either.

I didnt claim anything.

I just told you guys what happened

Except the fans are the consumer.

Again, I'm not ceding your argument that the fans had culpability in this. But even if your argument were ceded, THEY'RE the ones who pay and PETERS and the CHIEFS the ones who profit.

You still haven't heard the deal.

One guy says a fourth and a 2nd in '19

Another guy says a fourth and a 2nd in 19 for Peters but includes a 6th to go with Peters. Have you heard a confirmation of terms

I hear they are still working it out from others.

It looks like as soon as one guy broke loose the terms the other did too but with a different deal.

I haven't heard from 61 to see if the guy who could tell agrees or not.

I don't think the problem was about tough love and discipline. I think the problem was that nobody had his back. The fans turned on him and Reid and hunt did nothing proactively to make that stop. Probably because hunt didn't want to take sides. I'm sure they handled things behind closed doors, but in public, they did virtually nothing until it was way too late.

Then fans should pay the price for putting politics above winning. If they don't want players who voice an opinion, then we found out the hard way that players can go somewhere where they'll be accepted. But i guess the jokes on peters....???

ROFL Classic Nick Athan spin.

Amazing how no one else with confirmed access to the Chiefs locker room... Terez Paylor, Adam Teicher, take your pick... saw this happen, but you... a random message board nobody have a “source” who saw what no one else saw.

Nick Athan is proud of you.

Maas is not to be listened to no less given credibility.

Grow up man!!!!! You reap what you sow in this life.

People should be fired for this if that is the compensation.

I was at the Eagles game this season and there were multiple fans complaining about Peters. So there is some truth about the fans driving him out.

Both sides are at fault, but I place more blame on Peter’s.

He should be smart enough to know his stance would draw criticism from fans. He should know that anything he does will draw attention. Is it stupid fans gave him shit over that, yes it is. But when you start yelling back at fans they are going to go after you more.

Is he really that big of a D-bag that nobody else would pony up more then this? That is a terrible haul. Peters PRODUCTION is worth a 1st and good nickelback in return.

Those same fans will also be the first to bitch and complain when his replacement is getting torched up and down the field. Ignorant assholes chased off an All Pro corner.

LaConfora saying this was a mandate from Clark Hunt. Wow

**** him.

How did that work out? Would you say they "botched the relationship"?

Not surprising.

People shocked that no other NFL team made an offer...its called being blackballed. Same thing happened to Kaep. Kroenke is a piece of shit, but he seems to be an open minded piece of shit. First he drafted Michael Sam, now he picks up the angry black that the rest of the NFL refuses to touch.


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LMAO

Are we comparing Peters with a murderous pos now? Last I checked Marcus Peters hasn’t killed anyone.

We're pretty ****ing far afield with your flight of fancy where Arrowhead stadium was just a mass of cornfed yockels slobbering for Peters to be lynched at the nearest available tree, and that's a significant [let alone a noticeable] factor in the trade decision.

Peters was a known wildcard who dropped out of the top 10 to us on behavioral and mentality concerns.

We took a chance on his mercurial nature late in the 1st, with the express promise that we had looked into his soul and found something we could work with.

Both his talent and his demeanor showed up exactly as they did before, so none of that was unexpected. But what was expected is that we would take the time while he was under contract to get him to buy in to what we offered.

Now the organization has pretty much admitted that they failed in either their assessment of Peters, their ability to mold him into a team player, or his longstanding determination to get back to where he is comfortable.

So we're parlaying a late 1st and 3 years of effort, . . . into a talented player leaving and us receiving 'the equivalent' of a late 2nd.

But your one-track mind wants to go back to how the nameless faceless whitebread masses were just too mean for this fragile millionaire to bear.

It's either Peters' job to block that noise out, or the organization's job to convince him to do so. They're the two entities in the business of marketing their skills and services for millions and billions in profit out of those meanie's pockets.

Now he's gone, and we've never heard word one about exactly why he behaved as he did, even though he knew it was controversial, and even though he knew people were putting words in his mouth and making judgement based on that.

This was the dumbest shit in the world

Agreed. I would be inclined to keep him for one more year and see if you could let him mature. However, if the coaches say he can't be fixed, I guess we are screwed.

There is no doubt in my mind that we got peanuts for a star. The only way this works out for us is if he self-immolates ala Dale Carter and is out of the league in a few years. If he goes on and does great things for the Rams, we will look like idiots.

Told you mother****ers....he dropped this in Veache's lap. Chunt is a douchebag...a lying, thieving douchebag.

It smells of Hunt for sure. Peters is bad for business and he was embarassed.

People shocked that no other NFL team made an offer...its called being blackballed. Same thing happened to Kaep. Kroenke is a piece of shit, but he seems to be an open minded piece of shit. First he drafted Michael Sam, now he picks up the angry black that the rest of the NFL refuses to touch.


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Blowing the two of the biggest leads in play-off history is too....in five short years.

They could also just win a SB any time soon.

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Of course they are going to say that.

You think they are going to say that this is a fifty-fifty gamble but he may be a future HOF? I doubt it.

You gamble on enough of these type of players some will pay off, see Tyreek Hill, some don't.

It sucks losing a top 5 corner. But KC got 3 really good years out of a player on a rookie contract and got a second rounder back. It wasn't like they spent a first on a player who eventually got cut without ever really seeing the field.

Peters winning SB MVP would be priceless...

Marcus Peters couldn't handle the KC fans huh?

Wonder how any player has ever survived in Philly.

Marcus just said he had zero issue with Andy

So it's all Sutton.

I call BS on that.

That's even worse than I feared. I guess it balances out taking the Redskins to the woodshed for Alex Smith, but taken alone this pretty much removes any iota of hope that we have any halfway competent people anywhere in the front office.

Will this soon-to-50-year purgatory ever end?

Kap sucks, that's why he isn't playing. Peters is untouchable as he is a cancer on the team, at least the last two he has been on. We may not like it, but what we got is Fair market value. A 6th to a 4th, which could play out much better, and a 2nd next year in a much better draft.

Speaks to his character in the locker room.

There seriously isnt a single poster here who talks out of both sides of his mouth more than zilla

'This is all about Hunt and racist Chiefs fans!', yet we basically had to GIVE his ass away just to be rid of him... no one else wanted him, no one, not even Mr Hip Pete Carroll out there in liberal utopia Seattle, a team that happens to be hemorrhaging secondary talent

peters said on the NFL network that he and Andy Reid were close. No issues at all.

Without a doubt

That sounds like cancer to me....

So if everything is cool between Reid and himself...why did they just give him away under the guise that no team would touch such a malcontent?

This deal reeks...

And the trash talk begins......

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Marcus Peters was asked about facing Patrick Mahomes in Mexico City this season. "I'm expecting turnovers," he said, "and I'm expecting to win. ... He knows how to get me the ball." ... This could be fun.
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Compare Kaep's last 6 games with SF to Garoppolo's. Also, compare Kaep with some of the QBs currently on a roster. A lot of trash out there. The whole he sucks or can't play argument was always bogus and went out the window a looonng time ago fella. He is good enough to start on some teams and good enough to backup pretty much anywhere.

But the bottom line is other teams likely knew Clark just wanted him gone and because of that we had absolutely no leverage. The Chiefs are a business, and demographics are important to a business. The Chiefs man demo is Midwestern, white, conservative, Christian, God and family type people. They already felt a slap in the face when their identifiable "face of the franchise" was traded away. So now some people say "They trade Smith but keep a punk like Peters on the team WTF!?!??!" I think this absolutely had something to do with the Peters move, coupled with Clark's personal feelings toward the man.

I know right! They are releasing Ron Parker too! They are getting rid of all the black players!

Well I mean Smith isn't black and Mahomes is half black and that doesn't fit the narrative but dammit its about the black players!

Demographics and shit!

Parker is getting cut because he is expensive and underperforming.

Alex Smith was heckled because fans hated his conservative style of play.

Gaines gets heckled because he isn't good at football.

Peters was heckled because some people don't like his political statement. One of these things has nothing whatsoever to do with football.

It’s one thing for Marcus to say that he and coach Reid didn’t have issues.

But what would coach Reid say?

:hmmm:

You already know I think you are a moron.

If you think Peters just got sent to LA for 4th and 2nd round pick simply because of his "political views", you are an even bigger moron than I thought.

While not likely its possible I have given you too much credit.

Whats hilarious is nobody even knows what his political views are yet that's the reason he is hated. LMAO

That he, himself, needs to do better.

**** you Clark. **** you gramps. **** this franchise.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Keeping Peters for two more seasons and allowing him to walk in free agency would have netted a 3rd round compensatory pick.<br><br>Basically the Chiefs traded two seasons of Marcus Peters, a 6th round pick, and a third round pick, for a 2nd and a 4th. This is garbage.</p>&mdash; Gary McKenzie (@Super_G_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Super_G_Chiefs/status/968198436519661568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>