Yes, that was the point, to see both sides

Of course that's the point. But where Druckmann failed for a lot of people, including me, is getting us to sympathize or care about or for either perspective. Especially in the case of Ellie, that took some rather remarkably bad writing.

Like I said, it's different for each person. I thought that Ellie acted exactly the way I would expect her to act based on what happened. And after all the time with Abbie and her didn't get you to sympathize with her, then I don't think any different story point could have.

agreed. And I didnt have a problem with it as others did.

I felt it was a distinctly unique approach in a video game.

I think at first Tommy felt like he was being forced, but after that emotional talk and when he tells Tommy that Ellie is immune I think he genuinely wants to help, because a vaccine could potentially lead to a ton of positives and he wants his baby to grow up in a better world than he did.

How many episodes will be in season 1?



So I'm guessing that's what we're working toward in Utah.. but I feel like we've breezed through this season. In 6ish hours of TV time we've gone from Boston to Kansas City to Wyoming to Colorado. Feels like we could have gotten some meat and potatoes from that journey.

There are 9 episodes in Season 1.

I would assume that with Joel being hurt that but I could be wrong I guess. They could just jump to the end...but my guess is your spoiler is the very end of the season.

I'm pretty sure on a trailer at some point we see so I imagine it's next.

Think it's
7. DLC
8. Winter
9. SLC

LMAO That's kind of how it was in the game to be fair. Spent about a quarter of the game in Pittsburgh and then bam, cut to black and it's Fall and we're in Wyoming. That's another reason why I actually like the change to KC. Makes sense they drove that far and then the last leg of the journey is on foot. How they got from Pittsburgh to Jackson on foot always made me chuckle a bit.

Yeah, buddy just told me next episode is probably all DLC. Which sucks.

Definitely could see that as well. I can't recall how the game went with that conversation or if there was one in full to even try to go along

Why? The DLC story is great. It is needed to set up Ellie's backstory and motivations even more.

Exactly.

I just bought The Last of Us on PS5 today since it was on sale for $49.99. I first played the game on PS3 so stoked to play the PS5 version. My PS5 is attached to an LG OLED so should be an incredible experience once again but MUCH better.

Absolutely! That was awesome in itself! Is a "foreshadowing" of TLOU 2 if you think about it. :thumb:

Man past 2 episodes have been slow as shit. Last week was still good but this week was a bore. A full hour of flashback isn't what I was looking for this week.

I loved it, really great adaptation from the game. If you are wanting more action, next week has got you. It's going to be crazy.

Exactly. This gives great character development and shows where Ellie's coming from. This is not the walking dead. Shits about to hit the fan though.

I'm not ready for ****ing David.

Dont post game plots in this thread bro. Lots of people in here haven't played the game. Spoiler that shit.

Nice. Looks like it's going to be relatively faithful to the game based on the preview. Just how faithful is the question now.

Every series has this one episode where they explore the background of a character. We need to understand their motives and how did they get to this place. There has been plenty of blowing the heads off zombies. I thought it was a good filler episode.

Since those who have played the game are saying the story is close to the game, yeah, telling us in here plots and events that are coming up is not cool. Spoiler it and if they want spoilers, open it and go for it.

I'd say the worst episode so far is the first kc episode personally. I wish that was more 2nd half of the episode and that was still pretty good imo. I am curious if this will wrap up great too. Only 2 episodes left not huge run times. This episode was needed.

I trust this creative team. I played both games and I'm thrilled how it's gone so far. I never thought a series was needed. It's enhanced everything and I can't wait to play the games again

Same, I'm waiting until the show finishes and I am going to go back and play it again. I may wait for it to hit PC though.

I don't even think I can pick out my least favorite episode, because I think they've all been excellent. I don't get the complaining about a character building episode and it seems like people will bitch about that and then bitch about a different show because they didn't care enough about the characters. If you want non stop action, then watch a ****ing Michael Bay movie.

I am loving this series so far - I have zero complaints. This turned out way better than I expected! Makes you hungry for more! :thumb:

Agreed. I'm a little nervous we have only 2 more episodes and alot to get to. Hope they pull it off.

It will leave us wanting more and I expect that!

That's what I'm hoping for.

Worst episode yet. That flashback could have been done in 10 min. Fluff.

I thought this episode did a good job of building tension. The whole time, any long shot, I had my eyes on the background expecting infected to show up.

Why? Are you too stupid to understand the point of character building?

Everyone knows character building episodes during the final episodes are the best.

The kind that build on the character and show their motivation for the specific actions taken in the episode and to the series as a whole moving forward? This episode is bigger than you know in the grand scheme of the whole story, not just this season.

Yeah I've played the game but thanks.

This show is terrible but gotta keep watching so you guys know what's up!!!!

It's BWillie. He's trolling at this point. Just ignore his stupid ass comments.

Most of the time I was cursing them for having all of the lights/music on while questioning who would be that stupid...

Then I had to remind myself that they're kids. Kids are that stupid.

Basically...they weren't as cautious but at the same time Riley I assume thought the place was ok after living there for a short time and not seeing much. They basically said it was like a bunker from outdoors too. Totally fine with it

If it's some big spoiler/plot poing, then don't tell me, but what is the reason for FEDRA saying that the mall was over run with infected or is it not mentioned?

Kids really are so ****ing stupid.

It was cool seeing the derelict mall, though.. and am I remembering wrong or have they shown a Mortal Kombat II arcade like ten times in this show?

Yes very dumb i am

Legally reeruned in 27 states

I dont troll. I have different opinions than you. Its sad so many of you are unable to deal with someone thinking differently than you.

One of the episodes had to be the worst... and that one was it.

Not that I'm homophobic, but they spent an entire episode developing two characters that don't make it past the episode (Frank and Bill). I understand they want back story and I've never played the game, but a lot of that episode just felt totally unnecessary.

<iframe src="https://giphy.com/embed/1AIeYgwnqeBUxh6juu" width="480" height="268" frameBorder="0" class="giphy-embed" allowFullScreen></iframe><p><a href="https://giphy.com/gifs/1AIeYgwnqeBUxh6juu">via GIPHY</a></p>

I don't remember seeing the game anywhere else, but Ellie has a poster for MK in her room at Fedra, I think.

As a non-game-player, I was intrigued by this last episode. It fills in her background etc, and shows her getting infected. However, I still dont know the events about her not 'turning' and who finds out about her special status, and has the connections to put 2 and 2 together to think they need to send her some lab for a cure.


Also, I could see how a game player could have a disconnect with the show. A game is going to have a lot more 1st person shooter action -sort of the point of a game - work your way through the zombies. A movie that devoted the same percentage of time to zombie killing would be pretty two dimensional and boring. I think they are doing a good job of telling a story where the zombies are a danger to be accounted for, but not the main focus.

I think the majority of game players are loving it. Some are wanting more action but like you said, you can't have 30 minutes of Joel crouching and stabbing 20 people and 40 zombies in the neck. It would make bad tv. They show has done an incredible job of telling the games story and changing just enough details to make it fresh but still tell the same story with the same outcomes. I'm incredibly impressed with how well they have pulled this off.

Dude it was an awesome pass off to the DLC "Left Behind" content and was pulled off EXCELLENTLY! You need to see Ellie's pain to understand that she has a past just like Joel. Losing a loved one is the theme.

Please understand this IS NOT "The Walking Dead" by any means. This is a STORY. It is the oath Joel made to Tess and a 14 year old who has never seen the outside world (even though it has been destroyed). It is a story of loss on both parties behalf and must form a "trust" between our 2 protagonists to hopefully reach a concerted effort to save mankind from the infected that has taken control of the world. It is a sit back and relax adventure to see what perils lie ahead to reach said goal. :thumb:

The letter that Joel and Ellie find in Bill's house is a pretty integral to the rest of the story in the TV show. Every scene with Bill and Frank where they meet, create and live a life and then die together was meant to provide more gravity to the message in that letter and the hope for the future that Ellie can provide.

The letter and this episode is 1000x better than what they did in the game. Although it does still have the scene where Ellie finds the porn mag in the truck which was pretty funny.

I liked how they shot the episode with a lot of shots where you can see down the long corridors of the mall because, as good of a time as they are having, everyone in the audience knows what's going to happen so you're almost looking over their shoulder waiting for the inevitable. The guy waking up was the start of the ticking time bomb that we all knew was there.

Frank and Bill episode was a fantastic episode.

This one was anything but.

Hopefully Joel turns into a ghey too. Maybe they can make a 3rd episode showing how the fungus turns you homo even if u are just adjacent to it. Terrifying stuff.

I didn't think there was any tension to be honest. We all knew what was going to happen so it was just a matter of time. And once they didn't do it in by about 30 minutes through I knew they were going to do it at the end.

Rolling up to watch tonights episode like

https://media.tenor.com/5-M6tHCVuZ8A...last-of-us.gif

Teenage same sex curiosity is what I’ve been missing from my zombie series to make it feel more real

And I’ve really been missing someone mentioning same sex relationships and how they don’t belong.

Weren't subtle with it at all this go round, I see. Good

Don’t mention what 95% of the episode is about I guess

What an episode. Probably the best one yet. Wow. I can't believe there is one episode left... nervous how they are gonna finish this. Man, I love this show.

Fantastic ****ing episode. Best yet. Creepy cult mofos.

****ing David. When she had her face in the fence is when she became Ellie to me. She's been great for the whole series, but that shot right there sold me 100% on it. She was the right choice.

Ok, as I am replaying this game parallel to this series, I cannot get over how well they have done this! I LOVE this series and they have taken the time to tell the story and still pass off the scenery! Unbelievable! They are really doing a great job so far and I am loving it!

Tonight's episode was AWESOME!

Holy shit, what an episode. ****ing David was amazing in that too.

More. More. More. More. More.

Such a great episode. Such a great show.

She was the perfect casting.

What a creepy **** that guy was. Glad Ellie dealt with him instead of Joel coming to the rescue too, great episode.

:clap:

If you aren't on board after this episode, you will never be :shrug:

One thing I like about this show is that while it is clearly still serialized and there is a general story they’re following (finding Tommy, delivering Ellie to the Fireflies, the development of the Joel/Ellie relationship, etc.), it’s also episodic in that there is a defined beginning, middle and and an end to several episodes as they tell the stories of the other characters they come across on their journey or in their past (Frank/Bill, Henry/Sam, Riley, and now this cannibal cult). There’s no lingering in any one place with the same characters and it is making these episodes just fly by. It’s been exceptionally well done.

This is the best show on TV right now. It's a top 3 show of all time for me. That episode, holy shit.

I love that she went total ****ing insane badass. When she broke his fingers. Holy shot.

It's inching towards best of all time for me, if they can nail another season. I know they will nail the finale and I'm so glad I never played the game. I love that everything is new.

Also this series the best acting performances that I have ever seen.

Pedro Pascal as Joel
Bella Ramsey as Ellie

These two should win awards after awards and then you take the other characters and the actors that played them and their performances.

Anna Torv as Tess
Nick Offerman as Bill
Murray Bartlett as Frank
Storm Reid as Riley
Melanie Lynskey as Kathleen
Scott Shepherd as David

Some of the most magnificent performances from so many actors and actresses.

I cannot overstate how good the acting and writing has been on this show. It sucks that next week is the last episode of the season. This show should clean up at awards shows

Just the smallest of criticism. They really should've left David and Ellie fighting off infected from the game, and then done the reveal he knows who Ellie and Joel are. It was a lot more of a slow and subtle burn for David to truly show how ****ed in the head he was. Here he was pretty much full blown creep right off the bat.

It would be for me as well if Ellie were prettier and the existence of the fungus were more believable. /you-know-who

Beat me to it.

yeah, that threw me a bit as well. I told my wife "they're kind of rushing through this part of the game".

But I also told her that some of the hardest parts of the game were during last night's episode.....which adds to the "taking longer" bit as you try to figure out how to get past a spot, etc.