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Nirvana58 10-24-2023 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17188278)
Why not ride a ****ing horse to work and listen to 8-track tapes? Revolvers suck.

The Sig I carry holds 13 rounds. A revolver generally holds six, and smaller ones (like a typical snubnose .38) hold five. They also generally have really heavy double action trigger pulls - you have to cock the hammer to get a light pull. And a lot of revolvers specifically don't have external hammers any more.

The new revolvers can hold 8. Plus a good revolver goes bang every time you pull the trigger. Don't have to worry about that gun jamming on you.

There is nothing wrong with having a revolver in your arsenal. Perfect for a truck gun, back up gun, or just some one who has issues racking the slide.

Hammock Parties 10-24-2023 10:12 PM

I just feel like a revolver is a hell of a lot easier to carry and pull quickly if you're walking your damn dog. LMAO

When dad was robbed at gunpoint in his own driveway 10 years ago he started carrying a small revolver to work every day.

FYI my dad is john wayne.

Frazod 10-24-2023 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nirvana58 (Post 17188281)
The new revolvers can hold 8. Plus a good revolver goes bang every time you pull the trigger. Don't have to worry about that gun jamming on you.

There is nothing wrong with having a revolver in your arsenal. Perfect for a truck gun, back up gun, or just some one who has issues racking the slide.

Those are some valid points. But none trump 13 is better than 5, or 6, or 8.

I've moved on. Sold my last revolver years ago and have no plans on ever getting another one. No need for 19th century technology in the 21st century.

Nirvana58 10-24-2023 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17188283)
I just feel like a revolver is a hell of a lot easier to carry and pull quickly if you're walking your damn dog. LMAO

When dad was robbed at gunpoint in his own driveway 10 years ago he started carrying a small revolver to work every day.

FYI my dad is john wayne.

It all depends on what you are comfortable with. A 357 revolver will put down any dog or person that you might encounter. I carry one when I am in bear country.

Frazod 10-24-2023 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17188283)
I just feel like a revolver is a hell of a lot easier to carry and pull quickly if you're walking your damn dog. LMAO

When dad was robbed at gunpoint in his own driveway 10 years ago he started carrying a small revolver to work every day.

FYI my dad is john wayne.

Bullshit. A proper holster and training are the key, not the type of weapon. You can draw and fire a pistol just as fast, and don't have to worry about cocking it before you fire.

I can draw from concealment and fire an aimed shot in 1.3 seconds.

Bwana 10-24-2023 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17188285)
Those are some valid points. But none trump 13 is better than 5, or 6, or 8.

I've moved on. Sold my last revolver years ago and have no plans on ever getting another one. No need for 19th century technology in the 21st century.


It depends on what you're trying to kill. I still pack a .500 Smith & Wesson, loaded up with hard cast rounds, in grizzly country. I had a buddy I was atving with a few years back that packed a 9mm. (for grizzly's) He obliviously had no clue what it takes to drop one of those things. I just told him, if my .500 doesn't drop it, save the 9 for yourself, before the bear gets there.

Frazod 10-24-2023 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 17188292)
It depends on what you're trying to kill. I still pack a .500 Smith & Wesson, loaded up with hard cast rounds, in grizzly country. I had a buddy I was atving with a few years back that packed a 9mm. (for grizzly's) He obliviously had no clue what it takes to drop one of those things. I just told him, if my .500 doesn't drop it, save the 9 for yourself, before the bear gets there.

I'm not too worried about grizzlies in Illinois, but you definitely have a valid point. :D

Nirvana58 10-24-2023 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17188285)
Those are some valid points. But none trump 13 is better than 5, or 6, or 8.

I've moved on. Sold my last revolver years ago and have no plans on ever getting another one. No need for 19th century technology in the 21st century.

I guess I am a little old school. My conceal carry gun is a 1911. Personally I don't believe I am going to need more than 8 shots to neutralize most situations.

If I need more than that I probably shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Nirvana58 10-24-2023 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 17188292)
It depends on what you're trying to kill. I still pack a .500 Smith & Wesson, loaded up with hard cast rounds, in grizzly country. I had a buddy I was atving with a few years back that packed a 9mm. (for grizzly's) He obliviously had no clue what it takes to drop one of those things. I just told him, if my .500 doesn't drop it, save the 9 for yourself, before the bear gets there.

ROFL. Yeah the 9 is just going to piss the bear off.

Bwana 10-24-2023 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17188297)
I'm not too worried about grizzlies in Illinois, but you definitely have a valid point. :D


Heh, that's not an issue in IL and what you listed, are all great for the two legged variety.

Frazod 10-24-2023 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nirvana58 (Post 17188299)
I guess I am a little old school. My conceal carry gun is a 1911. Personally I don't believe I am going to need more than 8 shots to neutralize most situations.

If I need more than that I probably shouldn't have been there in the first place.

The problem with that is defensive situations tend not to announce themselves. Carrying a gun with an external safety can be a serious problem unless you've practiced your draw enough so that disengaging the safety has become muscle memory.

You don't want your last thought in life to be "oh ****, the safety's on."

Frazod 10-24-2023 11:00 PM

And the gun guys have hijacked the pit bull thread. :D

Bwana 10-24-2023 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nirvana58 (Post 17188300)
ROFL. Yeah the 9 is just going to piss the bear off.

You would have to be beyond lucky to drop a grizzly with a 9. I guess if you could get a round in the eye, it would work, good luck. ROFL

There is a place I used to fish that had bear tunnels running through the thick brush, along with a bunch of moose. I had a fly rod in one hand my 45/70 guide rifle in the other, loaded with Garrett 570gr hard cast rounds. You had the noise of the creek, combined with very limited visibility.

Bottom line, if a bear was by the creek, there is a good chance you would run into it at very close range.

I got to the point where I said the hell with this, there are plenty of other good fishing spots in the area with better visibility. I do everything I can to try to avoid having to drop a grizzy, because if I do, I will have a Game Warden crawling up my ass with a microscope, because of their "endangered" status.

They haven't been endangered for 20 years, and are in fact, grossly over populated. Every time Montana tries to delist them, tree hugger's get worked up, take it to court and some panty waste judge in San Francisco sides with the hugger's.

Nirvana58 10-24-2023 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17188308)
The problem with that is defensive situations tend not to announce themselves. Carrying a gun with an external safety can be a serious problem unless you've practiced your draw enough so that disengaging the safety has become muscle memory.

You don't want your last thought in life to be "oh ****, the safety's on."

This is very true. However, being aware of your surroundings and removing yourself from sketchy situations. Will save your life way more than any amount of bullets/style of gun.

Mephistopheles Janx 10-25-2023 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 17188237)
Dear Dumb shit,

with all due respect, a .22 round could literally richocet off a pit bull's skull and either round off the top between the bone and skin...or deflect directly back at you.

With a .22, you could mortally wound yourself and do nothing to the dog but seriously piss it off.

.22s are for killing rabbits and birds.
9mm are for thugs
.45s, .44s, and .40 cals are for alpha males...

You should get a .32 or .38...

You completely skipped the .25ACP

9mm is the least expensive round available outside of .22lr.

---

9mm with Hornady Critical Duty ammo and you will be peachy keen.

notorious 10-25-2023 07:00 AM

9+ P have gained a lot of respect from me the last 10 years.

They are no slouch.

Still carry a XDS 45 . By far the best CC gun I've used. Used to carry SW 442 .38. Semi is a lot more comfortable, and a better handling gun. Don't get me started on the triggers.

notorious 10-25-2023 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 17188247)
With the 40 watt range?

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Lzen 10-25-2023 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17187337)
Postmen carry it (I did). I'm not going to bring a gun on dog walks. :LOL: That's just asking for trouble.

It has been three separate pits.

Ah, I see. I hope it works for you. Sad that you need to carry a weapon (any kind of weapon) just to take your dog for a walk.

Skyy God 10-25-2023 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17188289)
Bullshit. A proper holster and training are the key, not the type of weapon. You can draw and fire a pistol just as fast, and don't have to worry about cocking it before you fire.

I can draw from concealment and fire an aimed shot in 1.3 seconds.

Refrigerators of the world, watch out!

lcarus 10-25-2023 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 17188292)
It depends on what you're trying to kill. I still pack a .500 Smith & Wesson, loaded up with hard cast rounds, in grizzly country. I had a buddy I was atving with a few years back that packed a 9mm. (for grizzly's) He obliviously had no clue what it takes to drop one of those things. I just told him, if my .500 doesn't drop it, save the 9 for yourself, before the bear gets there.

I've always wanted one of those. Just never had a good reason to have one other than just for kicks (and I assume it does kick pretty good). Maybe one day I'll live in bear country and I'll finally have a reason.

duncan_idaho 10-25-2023 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17187811)
Not to derail but since we are on the subject of pitbulls...

When you look at my Corgi sized pitty mix... does he raise the same kind of trepidation that a standard Pit would?

Follow up...

Would his breed DNA results, showing he is 21% Pit, disqualify him from a place in your home?

/not looking to convince any of you otherwise if you answer yes/no. I'm just curious as to whether a mix of any sort is acceptable, and if so... what that mix level is.

0.0 percent

Lzen 10-25-2023 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17187332)
I have been attacked by other breeds. Last time I recall was about 4 years ago. I think, if memory serves, it was a lab or lab mix. Yeah, it's not so much about the breed as it is the bad owners, IMO.

This incident was just a couple of months after I rescued the fawn one in this pic. I was walking the two males on the left. Stupid woman was walking down the sidewalk with her dog without any kind of leash. He (fawn - his name is Chief) was still at that age where any kind of dog showing just a little aggression and he was ready to go. But I went to the opposite sidewalk and stopped to try and avoid that and wait for this dummy to go on by. Of course, that is not what happened. Stupid idiot's dog ran across to mine. Chief went right at that dog and of course the other one is a follower so naturally, he joined in. I ended up with some scrapes and skinned knees and I cussed out that moron. Needless to say, the other dog didn't fare so well. He got what he deserved but it was a lot more than he bargained for.

Lzen 10-25-2023 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by crispystl (Post 17187394)
Another thing is while some small dogs can be aggressive (Datsuns are on the list). If that dog ever tunred on me (which he wouldn't, but if he did) I'd punt his 13lb ass across the room. You'd have much more on your hands than that if you had to deal with a full size pit bull.

That's a good point. Many people want to own a powerful breed, often a Pitbull. The problem is that most don't know how to handle a powerful breed.

T-post Tom 10-25-2023 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17188459)
This incident was just a couple of months after I rescued the fawn one in this pic. I was walking the two males on the left. Stupid woman was walking down the sidewalk with her dog without any kind of leash. He (fawn - his name is Chief) was still at that age where any kind of dog showing just a little aggression and he was ready to go. But I went to the opposite sidewalk and stopped to try and avoid that and wait for this dummy to go on by. Of course, that is not what happened. Stupid idiot's dog ran across to mine. Chief went right at that dog and of course the other one is a follower so naturally, he joined in. I ended up with some scrapes and skinned knees and I cussed out that moron. Needless to say, the other dog didn't fare so well. He got what he deserved but it was a lot more than he bargained for.

Had a similar occurrence last year. Don’t blame the dog: blame the owner. She’s at fault.:)

Lzen 10-25-2023 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 17187443)
I had one charge my 4 year old when while I was working on a flower garden in my front yard. That dog started charging at my Son and got within 20 yards of him before I squared that beast in the jaw with my shovel. It ****ed the dog up enough that it laid on the ground for about 10 seconds whimpering and then scurried off. It's too bad I wasn't carrying. I would have happily put a bullet in it's head.

Dang, that's crazy. I'm curious, where did this happen? Not that it makes much difference but a pitt was just wondering around. It makes one wonder where the heck is the owner?

Lzen 10-25-2023 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17187452)
My wife and I built a front yard fence because the neighbor lets his pit roam free on Sundays.

“Nah he’s a good boy, wouldn’t harm anyone.”

While that’s been true enough, all it takes is once for our kids to be maimed for life! It became a big thing on the community page because the pit got in a fight with a German Shepherd a gal was taking on a walk. The owner blamed the Shepherd for “starting the fight”. I talked to him about concerns I have because our Australian Shepherd is leash aggressive toward unleashed dogs, and again, he said it was "our problem" ��

A police officer lives across the street. For whatever reason he won’t do anything about this. Animal Control hasn’t either. We live on a busy street though, so I don’t see how that dog lasts long with the amount of times I’ve seen it on the road.

That's not right. I don't care what kind of dog, it should not be allowed to roam free in a city/neighborhood area. I would call animal control. And keep calling until this practice stops.

Eleazar 10-25-2023 07:54 AM

I think owners should have to answer for their pets’ behavior personally. If your animal hurts or kills someone, they should charge you criminally as if you did it.

InChiefsHeaven 10-25-2023 08:03 AM

I had a neighbor a few years back who worked for the local newspaper. She went to a house to do a story on how nice the pitbul who lived there was. Apparently, the dog had attacked another dog and they were ordered to put it down, or had to pay a fine or something, and they wanted the paper to do a feel good story on how great the dog was and how it had never done something like that before.

Well, she went over and initially met the family, took pics of the dog and the kids and the dog playing with the kid's pet hamster. Then the owner invited her to sit in the chair in the living room...and that dog ****ing went off. Jumped on her, bit her face pretty good. The owner was able to get the dog off of her, but the damage was done. She got a few stitches and the story in the paper was not flattering.

The owner voluntarily put the dog down, which I thought was actually quite well done. At some point, you can love the thing all you want but it's now proven it can be very dangerous, time for 'ol Spike to go...

Lzen 10-25-2023 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17187778)
Seen it with my own eyes. My story is also buried in this thread.

Dang, you guys are making me a little concerned. I have been around friends and family with Pitts and never had much of an issue. My son has one that they rescued several years ago. She is a sweetheart but after reading stories in this thread, I admit that it does make me a little concerned because they have a 3 year old and a baby on the way.

The dog is about 8 years old, I think. They had her and another female Pitt or Pitt mix. The other one died a few years ago. She was a fun dog and loved people and never harmed anyone or any other dogs. But yeah, I guess you never know. Sometimes, instincts take over.

Lzen 10-25-2023 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17187940)
here is what i received last night though...i mean come on man

Is this actually real? I mean, why would somebody be charged with a felony for simply defending themselves from a loose dog?

srvy 10-25-2023 08:18 AM

Always wanted a Toklat 454 Casull but just wasn't practical.
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rabblerouser 10-25-2023 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17188529)
Is this actually real? I mean, why would somebody be charged with a felony for simply defending themselves from a loose dog?

Don't know if it's real, but I could see it in 2023 :

Pibble running free, someone is carrying and shoots the dog, the owner is "afraid" (rationally or not) and if you pull a gun in some states and that causes someone to fear for their life, you could be charged...

Bwana 10-25-2023 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 17188422)
I've always wanted one of those. Just never had a good reason to have one other than just for kicks (and I assume it does kick pretty good). Maybe one day I'll live in bear country and I'll finally have a reason.

It definitely packs a wallop, but not as much as you would think, depending how hot the rounds you're running through it. With 2900 ft/lb. muzzle energy, it's going to rock you a little bit. The weight, combined with the muzzle break tame it a little bit. I had a .454 Casull Taurus Raging Bull at one point and that that thing was a lot worse, particularly with hot rounds. Every time I would squeeze a round off with that thing, it felt like my hand was getting hit with a sledge hammer. The .500 is nothing like that.

I generally run 60 rounds through the .500 in the spring in one sitting to get dialed back in, then 20 each time I'm in the mountains. Ammo for the .500 has doubled in price over the last two years as well. Even light rounds are crazy. If a guy is used to shooting a .22, or a 9mm, It will take some rounds down rage to get used to, no doubt about it. With that said, it's a really fun gun to shoot and I would highly recommend picking one up.

luv 10-25-2023 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by R Clark (Post 17187939)
So you’re throwing German shepherds in with pit bulls ?

German Shepherds were the ferocious dogs to go after back in, what, the 70's? Then it was Dobermanns in the 80's and Rottweilers in the 90's.

I love the picture of the chihuahua at the end... ROFL

Lzen 10-25-2023 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 17188047)
My son didn't need the rest of the shots as they observed and released into her sisters custody who had land in the country. The KC pet project did the evaluation as that was where the kcmo animal control dropped the dogs for observation. I was told by animal control this dog would not be allowed back to the original owners. The agent told me over the phone it couldn't come back unless a fence at least 6.5 feet in height was constructed. A month later I was setting out trash and heard the neighbor holler get out here. The same shepherd came running up the street saw me and did a 90-degree lept fence into the neighbor's yard and disappeared. I then had my handgun at the ready if ever I seen. I called Animal Control and told them no improvements were made to restrain this dog. They seemed disinterested and nothing happened the dog was out running many times. I came close to putting it down but no safe shooting lanes so didn't pull the thunder. The neighbor wouldn't answer the phone or knocks at their door.

Anyway, months passed and a new neighbor a street over described the same dog had bit her grade school daughter at the bus stop and neighbors told her where the dog belonged. The dog was collected and destroyed and it was current. So much history with this dog till it was finally done in. I wish I'd killed it before that little girl was bitten.

That neighbor's reputation was mud and they moved a few years ago good riddance. Also **** KC Pet Project for allowing this piece of shit animal back into our neighborhood to reek terror. My son who loved dogs was never the same. I had to pick him up and drop him off at school he stopped playing outside till a year after this dog was for sure gone and he came out of it and got back to normal.

Man, that's the kind of person who should never be responsible for anything, dog or human. :shake:

I understand your regret. I hate to say it but, I probably would have taken matters into my own hands.

Lzen 10-25-2023 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17188088)
JFC.

Honestly I didn’t know it was that prolific with that breed. Neighbor had one and I didn’t think twice about it.



We used to drop hogs we pulled for slaughter with a hollow point .22. That’s plopping one in the dome though. If you’re under duress and you don’t think you can land one in the melon get something bigger.

Whatever you use, get hollow points. You could use an AR 15 and a full metal jacket will just poke a hole in him. Get hollow points, rip it’s shit apart and be done.

This is a good point. I would also highly recommend going to the range and practice shooting. Last thing he wants is to have a stray round hit somebody or something.

mr. tegu 10-25-2023 08:32 AM

Pit bulls are ugly.

Lzen 10-25-2023 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 17188476)
Had a similar occurrence last year. Don’t blame the dog: blame the owner. She’s at fault.:)

You're right. While I was cussing at her I did tell her that she can't be walking with her dog off leash. And yeah, I was pissed at the dog, too, but I know the dog was just doing what dogs do, or animals in general.

notorious 10-25-2023 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 17188549)
It definitely packs a wallop, but not as much as you would think, depending how hot the rounds you're running through it. With 2900 ft/lb. muzzle energy, it's going to rock you a little bit. The weight, combined with the muzzle break tame it a little bit. I had a .454 Casull Taurus Raging Bull at one point and that that thing was a lot worse, particularly with hot rounds. Every time I would squeeze a round off with that thing, it felt like my hand was getting hit with a sledge hammer. The .500 is nothing like that.

I generally run 60 rounds through the .500 in the spring in one sitting to get dialed back in, then 20 each time I'm in the mountains. Ammo for the .500 has doubled in price over the last two years as well. Even light rounds are crazy. If a guy is used to shooting a .22, or a 9mm, It will take some rounds down rage to get used to, no doubt about it. With that said, it's a really fun gun to shoot and I would highly recommend picking one up.

Muzzle energy of a 30.6. LMAO

Bwana 10-25-2023 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17188587)
Muzzle energy of a 30.6. LMAO

It's calling your name!

Hammock Parties 10-25-2023 12:10 PM

looking at this

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Eleazar 10-25-2023 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17188947)

Got a bad mosquito problem in your neighborhood?

Hammock Parties 10-25-2023 12:15 PM

you telling me 38 special isn't enough for a damn dog :facepalm:

Frazod 10-25-2023 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17188947)

Oh FFS :facepalm:

I owned one of those, except it had a hammer. The double action trigger pull on that gun SUCKS. Plus it only holds five rounds. So many better options.

If you're serious about this, do yourself a favor before you waste your money - find a local range that has firearm rentals and actually test fire some different guns.

Eleazar 10-25-2023 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17188956)
you telling me 38 special isn't enough for a damn dog :facepalm:

As a CPer you obviously need this

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Hammock Parties 10-25-2023 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17188961)
Oh FFS :facepalm:

I owned one of those, except it had a hammer. The double action trigger pull on that gun SUCKS. Plus it only holds five rounds. So many better options.

If you're serious about this, do yourself a favor before you waste your money - find a local range that has firearm rentals and actually test fire some different guns.

Absolutely no way I'm messing with a hammer, and in that event I want a trigger I actually have to work to pull lest I accidentally shoot my own dog.

I think that will be plenty with some of these.

https://www.speer.com/ammunition/gol...9-23617GD.html

rabblerouser 10-25-2023 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 17188963)

just get the Colt Buntline Longhorn Special and be done with it.

It's a revolver, a .45, and looks like a cowboy gun - it's all he wants it for.


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George Liquor 10-25-2023 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17188971)
Absolutely no way I'm messing with a hammer, and in that event I want a trigger I actually have to work to pull lest I accidentally shoot my own dog.

I think that will be plenty with some of these.

https://www.speer.com/ammunition/gol...9-23617GD.html


Why even ask for advice if you're going to disregard all the good advice? Sure, it's a gun. It will kill whatever is attacking you. But there's much better options than $400 snub nose revolver made in brazil.

Eleazar 10-25-2023 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 17189007)
just get the Colt Buntline Longhorn Special and be done with it.

It's a revolver, a .22, and looks like a cowboy gun - it's all he wants it for.

Why put a .22 into this neighborhood yapper when he could reduce it to atoms?

Hammock Parties 10-25-2023 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bdj23 (Post 17189014)
Why even ask for advice if you're going to disregard all the good advice? Sure, it's a gun. It will kill whatever is attacking you. But there's much better options than $400 snub nose revolver made in brazil.

link then

rabblerouser 10-25-2023 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bdj23 (Post 17189014)
Why even ask for advice if you're going to disregard all the good advice? Sure, it's a gun. It will kill whatever is attacking you. But there's much better options than $400 snub nose revolver made in brazil.

I linked him to a pair of commemorative longhorn Colt.45s, limited edition at $1850/pair ROFL

George Liquor 10-25-2023 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17189023)
link then

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Hammock Parties 10-25-2023 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 17189025)
I linked him to a pair of commemorative longhorn Colt.45s, limited edition at $1850/pair ROFL

dual wielding seems great but i'm not sure i can hit the pit at distance as it chases copper

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Hammock Parties 10-25-2023 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bdj23 (Post 17189032)

if i wanted one of those i'd just bring the one i have LMAO

that sort of gun is not practical when you're out walking

George Liquor 10-25-2023 12:43 PM

A gun specifically meant for concealed carry, that's probably the most popular concealed carry gun in the USA isn't practical for concealed carry.

Ok then.

Hammock Parties 10-25-2023 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bdj23 (Post 17189054)
A gun specifically meant for concealed carry, that's probably the most popular concealed carry gun in the USA isn't practical for concealed carry.

Ok then.

not as easy as this

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Lzen 10-25-2023 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17189036)
if i wanted one of those i'd just bring the one i have LMAO

that sort of gun is not practical when you're out walking

WTF are you talking about? That is what I carry.

Hammock Parties 10-25-2023 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17189066)
WTF are you talking about? That is what I carry.

too bulky bro

Frazod 10-25-2023 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bdj23 (Post 17189014)
Why even ask for advice if you're going to disregard all the good advice? Sure, it's a gun. It will kill whatever is attacking you. But there's much better options than $400 snub nose revolver made in brazil.

Seriously. I was a range officer and firearms instructor, have received training from some of the best instructors in the country, have fired dozens of different defensive handguns, have been shooting in general for over 50 years, and am an expert pistol shooter.

But what do I know?

:shake:

George Liquor 10-25-2023 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17189066)
WTF are you talking about? That is what I carry.

Same lmao

rabblerouser 10-25-2023 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17189068)
too bulky bro

You have penis envy over a ****ing gun?

Hammock Parties 10-25-2023 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17189070)
Seriously. I was a range officer and firearms instructor, have received training from some of the best instructors in the country, have fired dozens of different defensive handguns, have been shooting in general for over 50 years, and am an expert pistol shooter.

But what do I know?

:shake:

you live in chicago and shoot refrigerators for fun

i'm just trying to kill a dog

rabblerouser 10-25-2023 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17189081)
i'm just trying to kill a dog

I think I speak for everyone when I say "good luck with that...

Buy what the **** you want."

Hammock Parties 10-25-2023 01:04 PM

cp gun crew entering the thread

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wazu 10-25-2023 01:07 PM

I have to say I think it will be a slightly better story if he uses the .22. Plus he already has that gun.

Sassy Squatch 10-25-2023 01:08 PM

LMAO The actual answer is the largest caliber you're consistently accurate with.

Eleazar 10-25-2023 01:08 PM

Why not just carry something like bear spray? Pretty difficult to hit one of two dogs that are fighting I would expect.

Sassy Squatch 10-25-2023 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 17189104)
Why not just carry something like bear spray? Pretty difficult to hit one of two dogs that are fighting I would expect.

I mean, ideally you put it down BEFORE it's actively engaged in trying to kill your own dog.

Hammock Parties 10-25-2023 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17189099)
I have to say I think it will be a slightly better story if he uses the .22. Plus he already has that gun.

I have a 9mm. I'd never bring it with me on a walk.

Nirvana58 10-25-2023 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17188956)
you telling me 38 special isn't enough for a damn dog :facepalm:

38 is fine to kill a dog. My advice is get a 357. You then have a gun that you can shoot 38 or 357 ammo.

You can't go wrong with a smith and wesson revolver.

I own one of these and have no complaints. Other than I wish I spent more and got a 357.

https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/smit...ction-revolver

Shiver Me Timbers 10-25-2023 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17189111)
I have a 9mm. I'd never bring it with me on a walk.

I carry every day with a bit more than a 9.

Buehler445 10-25-2023 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17189111)
I have a 9mm. I'd never bring it with me on a walk.

Then if you're going to get a gun, get that P365XL Fraz linked. I use it and it's a good gun. Good for CC. And you don't want to be running a bunch of different types of ammo.

I haven't fired a shitload of different CC guns, but that 365XL is a good gun.

Frazod 10-25-2023 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17189081)
you live in chicago and shoot refrigerators for fun

i'm just trying to kill a dog

You know what, Clay? Get a ****ing Hi-Point. It's the gun you deserve.

Hammock Parties 10-25-2023 02:01 PM

LMAO LMAO LMAO

Otter 10-25-2023 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 17188549)
It definitely packs a wallop, but not as much as you would think, depending how hot the rounds you're running through it. With 2900 ft/lb. muzzle energy, it's going to rock you a little bit. The weight, combined with the muzzle break tame it a little bit. I had a .454 Casull Taurus Raging Bull at one point and that that thing was a lot worse, particularly with hot rounds. Every time I would squeeze a round off with that thing, it felt like my hand was getting hit with a sledge hammer. The .500 is nothing like that.

I generally run 60 rounds through the .500 in the spring in one sitting to get dialed back in, then 20 each time I'm in the mountains. Ammo for the .500 has doubled in price over the last two years as well. Even light rounds are crazy. If a guy is used to shooting a .22, or a 9mm, It will take some rounds down rage to get used to, no doubt about it. With that said, it's a really fun gun to shoot and I would highly recommend picking one up.


I can confirm this although I'd compare it more to hitting a telephone like you're going for a home run with a composite baseball bat.

Otter 10-25-2023 02:10 PM

I used to let my 65lb pure muscle boxer walk (not sure who was walking who) w/o a leash and never had a problem once except for when a pit barked at me. That dog could be a 1/2 mile away and hear my voice and come running to see what I had to say. She was kind of aggressive to people who got near me when I was sleeping.

Never hit her once outside of a playful pat in the ass. If you want a powerful dog at least get a trainer if you don't know what your doing.


EDIT: The dog that provoked her just happened to be a pit. I've known plenty of solid pit owners.

BIG_DADDY 10-25-2023 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17187884)
Who was the "Pitbull guy" again? BigDaddy, right?

This thread needs his burst.

I have done all the stats on this over and over and yet the same small group of people who were born scared continue to show up literally terrified of everything. Last I checked there were approximately 330M people in this country and about 30 people die annually from all dogs. That’s one in 11M. We don’t have a dog problem. The truth about the APBT is they have been raised endlessly to not be human aggressive as they handle them in the pit in the heat of battle. I have never seen one be food aggressive, game raised or not. They say the French bully is now the most popular breed but that’s BS. Pitbulls have been the most popular breed for a very long time and remain so, especially if you consider mixed breeds. When you mix that breed with another that is not nearly as mentally stable I would consider that irresponsible and potentially dangerous FWIW. For the most part though they are not getting the human aggression gene from pits. That said there are always bad dogs.
For a trip down memory when they wanted to kill many breeds awhile back they started with anything that looked like a pit in Donkeyland. The burden of proof was not on the government, it was on the owner. In Denver alone they killed almost 4000 dogs that were pits or looked like pits. Imagine your child watching the authorities take the dog they love and kill it. To me the people that condone this are sick, weak, ****ing assholes. Back in the day when I posted on this subject a lot I proved over and over again when our MSM reported on a pit attack that the majority of the time back then they were not even pits. You remember those right? The nightly fear report with the picture of the drooling, rabid, fear inducing dog picture to go with the BS story.
Fortunately for this breed and many others they would like to go after the pendulum is going the other direction. I would say the vast majority of people know of several families with kids that have great pitbulls. The breed is athletic, fearless and loyal. For an experienced owner who is willing to put in the time this breed needs to really shine it is not only a good breed, it is a great breed. If you don't believe me, ask Patrick Mahomes

seclark 10-25-2023 02:20 PM

I just don’t think you can shoot a pissed off dog with a pistol. I mean I wouldn’t try, I’d grab a shotgun, or an automatic rifle.
But if you’re holding a dog in one hand, and trying to draw a bead on a pissed off pit, you have to be a special person to put that dog down, imo.
Look for another way.
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Sassy Squatch 10-25-2023 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 17189204)
I have done all the stats on this over and over and yet the same small group of people who were born scared continue to show up literally terrified of everything. Last I checked there were approximately 330M people in this country and about 30 people die annually from all dogs. That’s one in 11M. We don’t have a dog problem. The truth about the APBT is they have been raised endlessly to not be human aggressive as they handle them in the pit in the heat of battle. I have never seen one be food aggressive, game raised or not. They say the French bully is now the most popular breed but that’s BS. Pitbulls have been the most popular breed for a very long time and remain so, especially if you consider mixed breeds. When you mix that breed with another that is not nearly as mentally stable I would consider that irresponsible and potentially dangerous FWIW. For the most part though they are not getting the human aggression gene from pits. That said there are always bad dogs.
For a trip down memory when they wanted to kill many breeds awhile back they started with anything that looked like a pit in Donkeyland. The burden of proof was not on the government, it was on the owner. In Denver alone they killed almost 4000 dogs that were pits or looked like pits. Imagine your child watching the authorities take the dog they love and kill it. To me the people that condone this are sick, weak, ****ing assholes. Back in the day when I posted on this subject a lot I proved over and over again when our MSM reported on a pit attack that the majority of the time back then they were not even pits. You remember those right? The nightly fear report with the picture of the drooling, rabid, fear inducing dog picture to go with the BS story.
Fortunately for this breed and many others they would like to go after the pendulum is going the other direction. I would say the vast majority of people know of several families with kids that have great pitbulls. The breed is athletic, fearless and loyal. For an experienced owner who is willing to put in the time this breed needs to really shine it is not only a good breed, it is a great breed. If you don't believe me, ask Patrick Mahomes

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rabblerouser 10-25-2023 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17189173)
You know what, Clay? Get a ****ing Hi-Point. It's the gun you deserve.

I think a HP JXP 10 may be too much gun for a "man" of Clay's...calibre.


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