With the upcoming de-population bomb this will not work. You're asking the younger generation to foot a larger portion of the tax bill when there will be less contributors. That is complex topic overall though.


MO needs a bill like CA has (prop 13).

Some people like having valuable assets. Then there's people like you who want their home to stay relatively worthless.

What a weird ****ing hill to die on.

"Please don't make my property worth more" is not something you hear everyday.

He's poor. What 40 year old single man would be upset that his sister is actually making him pay for a hotel and to board his dog for a vacation?

Yeah, it kind sucks to have your taxes based on the current market (keep going up).

Austin area is a good example of how this kind of tax system can force people to sell.



As you know CA doesn't do that when you are a home owner.

Nah it will still sell for twice what I paid for it, at least. Not worried about that.

County has to be fought tooth and nail for trying to steal from people though. You don't fight them now it will be worse next time.

I'll be voting for you!

We should forward this post to all of our elected reps. Best idea I've heard. I have paid a LOT of taxes for over 60 years. I'd appreciate a break.

Going to be funny as hell when they reassess your house and it comes back higher.

I have a neighbor across the street, two doors up, who's house has a couple of more features than mine - plus a new roof (I need one).....etc....valued by the county as $190k less than mine.

Another neighbor put his house up for sale for more than his realtor says he could get. His asking price is $65k below what the county has as his value. And he probably won't get that.

But the county does have lots of expenses, so they need the extra dough, what with removing statues and stuff. That ain't free ya know!

What an absolute shitshow LMAO

So at what age does the Missouri proposed bill have to reach retirement?

62-65-67?

COURT BATTLE COULD BE BREWING OVER MISSOURI BILL TO BRING PROPERTY TAX RELIEF TO SENIORS

A bill signed by Gov. Mike Parson that aims to bring property tax relief to Missouri senior citizens could end up in court. The legislation, sponsored by Sen. Tony Luetkemeyer, R-Parkville, would allow counties to freeze the property tax rates of Missouri seniors.

Doug Hayter, executive director of the Missouri Association of School Administrators, said the bill is vague.

“What is Social Security eligibility? Is it just at 62 to 65, 67, et cetera? How do you gather that information on birthdates about the person of the primary residence turns 65, so there’s a lot of semantics I think involved in the implementation of this that can be really tricky,” said Hayter. “Some have even questioned does the language say, is it insinuating this is only for the county’s portion of property tax paid? We don’t believe that’s the case. We think it means all taxing jurisdictions, but that question has been raised as well. So, I will be surprised as well personally, if this doesn’t eventually end up in court.”

https://www.missourinet.com/2023/07/...ef-to-seniors/

anyone going to the meeting tomorrow?

Are you?

please do not troll this thread

Yeah, 'cause it'd just be flat immoral to quit taxing humans after they hit 65. Tax 'em as they're lowered into the hole...

It's not a troll, it's a valid question.

Please do not troll this thread.

Someone needs to curb their attitude

See, now you're trolling your own thread. A legitimate question was asked.

Of course he's not going...there might be some thugs hanging around.

Clay your hood is twice as scary as downtown. Don’t miss it

Not even close. I've never had a single issue with anyone. Never even had a trespasser. New neighbors are wonderful.

I've delivered mail downtown and walked past people being arrested on the street, in front of fences topped with chicken wire. Never seen that once here..

Hell, most people don't even have bars on their windows here. There are much worse parts of town for sure.

Are you going on vacation and can’t make this meeting?

#firstworldproblems

Hey guys

So true

#taxtherich

I had my zoom call on my appeal with Jackson County Assessment on Friday. I had a proxy, an old friend of mine who worked for James B Nutter for decades, and is a major real estate broker in KC now. He did me a solid by representing me. He got my assessment lowered from 89% increase to 16%. I can deal with that, and he saved me a LOT of money. I was lucky.

nice turnout

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I have never been more hopeful for collective, bipartisan legislative action. Thanks to <a href="https://twitter.com/ColonialLife?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ColonialLife</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/StaceyKCAgent?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@StaceyKCAgent</a> and my legislative colleagues for joining in to discuss next steps! I will share my suggestions when I get back to the office. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KansasCity?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KansasCity</a> <a href="https://t.co/ndBayIIJc2">pic.twitter.com/ndBayIIJc2</a></p>&mdash; Manny Abarca (@MannyAbarcaIV) <a href="https://twitter.com/MannyAbarcaIV/status/1680343718648315906?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wow LMAO

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Has Independence decided on whether they're going to join the lawsuit? Pretty sure they were supposed to decide that at some point today.

Why are people saying the appeals process isn't easy and/or fair?

Or are they just shouting at clouds and not answering the question honestly?

Based on the small sample size of this thread, seems like the appeals has been the redeeming part of the whole mess.

I'm not personally affected, but from what I understand folks are constantly getting the runaround to even be heard. And the deadline is July 31st. For example, they cancelled all in person appeals and tried to do them over Zoom. Those were apparently cancelled as well.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jackson County Zoom Call Property Tax Assessment Meetup Cancelled?!? We&#39;re Getting More Reports That The Courthouse Is Moving People Way From This Bit Of Promised Tech Evaluation: <a href="https://t.co/pQep3DiV7y">https://t.co/pQep3DiV7y</a> <a href="https://t.co/N3g98Ldexi">pic.twitter.com/N3g98Ldexi</a></p>&mdash; Tony&#39;s Kansas City (@TonysKansasCity) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonysKansasCity/status/1681000780659081217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The whole thing is just a giant ****ing shit show. On top of the runaround to even get an appeal, you've got various legislators wanting to set parameters and a lawsuit on the horizon. What the **** are these people even supposed to do?

Also pretty obvious whatever algorithm Tyler used to assign these values is ****ed beyond belief. And even if the property tax rate is legit it's pretty ****ing nuts to just drop an increase like that on someone and not have it gradually increase.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/loca...source=twitter

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The City of Independence just voted unanimously in favor to direct the City Manager to consult with the City Counselor to explore joining the class action lawsuit filed against Jackson County, relating to the most recent property tax assessments. <a href="https://twitter.com/KCTV5?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KCTV5</a> <a href="https://t.co/KEgJuhyD64">pic.twitter.com/KEgJuhyD64</a></p>&mdash; Greg Payne (@GregKCTV5) <a href="https://twitter.com/GregKCTV5/status/1681089257010614279?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That sounds more like what I'd expect. :doh!:

now we got the proletariat on our side. LET'S ROCK!

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LOL these ****ing assholes

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:doh!: Not everything needs a racial connotation. They're already fighting a winning battle.

They don't care about you.

Yeesh. If that's an accurate glimpse into what's going on behind closed doors this shit is going to get violent pretty soon.

they care about themselves, which helps me

win-win

So you are one of the 3%?

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not about me, please don't troll the thread

100% bullshit as usual. If you didn't have to pay more you would be laughing at those who do.

Sounds like Nancy needed to tell her husband to shut his ****ing mouth. Why would anyone get to use a 2021 comp? Notice she never said if the 260k assessment was correct?

So why no protests about shit like this

There was a protest at city hall.

Got mine reduced...some. Still overvalued but not as bad.

Wish we could get the SB190 provisions in effect here. That would be helpful.

Weak

Actually, not weak. It raised awareness and now the county is absolutely flooded with appeals they are losing.

The county is giving massive ground right now. Wait til Independence sues them.

Hopefully they got their win from from those crooks

I wonder who is more full of shit, Nancy or Clay

unite the clans, manny!

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I thought the turn out to that was weak based on the videos that were there.
Should've been 1000's of people there IMO.

At least it brought attention to the problem.

I don't live in Jackson county for the record.

I don't know, but I can tell you who is more successful. Nancy home is worth more than twice what Clay's is worth and she's actually married. Clay is a 40 year old single nerd with a fat kid inside him just waiting to bust out. He will die alone clutching a video game controller and a comic book while never knowing what it is like to experience real love and commitment. His line will die with him and after he is gone nobody will visit his grave.

That is harsh...but I'm not sure it can be disputed.

I suppose I can tuck this piece of info in here since its in Independence.

Hit television show 'Cops' to follow Independence Police Department for 8 weeks

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Crews from the hit television show "Cops" will search for the "bad boys" of Independence, Missouri, over the next two months.

Filming for the show began last week in Independence and is expected to take eight weeks, according to Jack Taylor, a spokesperson for the Independence Police Department.

But this is not the first time the show has followed the department. Last time, Taylor said crews filmed enough content for a whole season in just two weeks.

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news...nt-for-8-weeks
A spokesperson for Langley Productions, which produces the show, said Independence was chosen after researching the city and talking with Independence Chief of Police Adam Dustman.

The episodes filmed in Independence are expected to air next year, per the production spokesperson.

lmfao county is run by dipshits

These clowns will break if you press them even the slightest. The whole thing is a farce.

Jesus Christ, does anyone in that shithole county have a house that isn't a complete piece of shit. Everyone has cracks in their walls, foundation issues, drywall cracking or falling down, mold, etc...

You would think since they haven't been paying taxes based on fair assessments of their property for all these years that they could have afforded basic upkeep on their property.

What about that response makes them dipshits? You do realize that it takes time and that they probably ARE inundated with records requests. I love it when people who have never done government work...bitch about government workers.

Spent it all on smokes and scratchers most likely

Sounds like they're doing their job, serving the public, and correcting these issues. You got a problem with them accepting a citizens word that they have cracks in the foundation?

You just gonna bitch about everything?

The assessment reevaluation went from 37% to 9%, seemed relatively easy to get reduced, and the people are happy with the result.

Yet you're still bitching.

I think you misinterpreted the post there, big guy. Read it again. And maybe care less about something that doesn't affect you in the slightest. Maybe go ship some more shit LMAO

There's no misinterpretation at all. You call them clowns and say they break when you press them.

In reality, the instance you provided was a representative doing a good job serving the public and making it easy for the citizen. Which is what is expected.

So yeah, you're bitching to bitch.

Yeah, i run a shop infinitely more successful than anything you've done in your life. You trying to take digs on that shows what kind of useless **** you are.

There's one other person who tried to take digs at me for...working. That was BEP. Hilarious coincidence.

LMAO the "rep" wasn't even a public servant

just leave this thread alone

We were very pleased! Done in less than 5 minutes!

Good for them.

Tyler Tech is taking the County for a ride.

They are paying these people $800 per person per day for informal hearings LMAO

TT inflated everyone's assessment in bad faith since they also have a financial interest by driving the appeals volume up.

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That's like, twice your mortgage!

Do you think these people only get paid $15 an hour?

Meh. I know y'all are getting your kicks trolling Clay, but there's some blatant ****ery afoot with these assessments.

I agree with you Superturtle, it could force a lot of people just making ends meet or close enough to it sell there homes. Just upend their whole lives.

And I'm sure many of the council members knew what was coming down the pipe as well as Frank the fraud White.

No doubt.

But there seems to be a pathway for correction, which is worth applauding.

Now, there never shoulda been a need for a correction in the 1st place. People shouldn't have to take time out of their day to correct this for the county. But mistakes happen, so long as they're fixing them. And they appear to be doing so willingly.

The amount of mistakes is a massive problem though. This isn't normal. And on top of it the Assessor's office is being pretty ****ing obstinate about not putting in some common sense measures to at least mitigate some of the pain short term.

Jackson County withholding $6M from Tyler Technologies pending improvements in assessment process

Ask way to high and make it seem like your giving the residents a deal by lowering the tax percentage. Bold strategy.

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LMAO

Wow.

I fell for it. Told me it was reduced but it never was. No documentation, no reduction. Apparently the whole zoom meeting deal was a scam.

Now, I'm not allowed to make another attempt. That $80k reduction was just lip service. I guess they figured we wouldn't discover the con job until we got the tax bill and they were snugly back home in Texas.

:banghead::banghead: I give up. They win. I suppose that was the intent all along.

They should have generated some kind of confirming paperwork of the reduction. Check with them and have them send a PDF. Did you record the Zoom Call?