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petegz28 06-16-2010 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kraus (Post 6825802)
I have a feeling we're going to get screwed again if(when) we trade DDJ. I'm fine with trading every other player on that list, except Bannister.

I'd trade Bannister. He is nothing that wouldn't be hard to replace. And given a healthy rotation, I would be happy letting Chen replace him if that were the case.

petegz28 06-16-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6825683)
2-3 high-level prospects.

For DeJesus, we'd probably get 2, but I'd want both to be among the top-5 in someone's organization. If this seems too steep, and it might, I'd tell 'em to **** off.

It could be that DDJ's market value isn't as great as his relative value to the Royals.

I don't even know about that. They had better be prospects that are ready to come up and play. None of this, they will be ready in 2-3 years, crap.

DeezNutz 06-16-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6825866)
I don't even know about that. They had better be prospects that are ready to come up and play. None of this, they will be ready in 2-3 years, crap.

Then you won't get anything worth a ****. And the "ready now" stipulation is the kind of crap that Glass used to insist upon.

That's how you get Perez for Dye and a cluster**** for Beltran. You want talent in return, but this doesn't necessarily mean advanced prospects or ML-ready ones.

DeezNutz 06-16-2010 03:59 PM

Hypothetically, someone is willing to trade you Moosetacos for DDJ. Do you do it?

Young, unproven guy with (allegedly) tremendous upside for a solid ML player. If I'm the Royals, I'd want someone like this and another high-quality prospect. A legit throw-in.

CaliforniaChief 06-16-2010 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6825840)

Interesting link. Hope Hoch can come back soon.

petegz28 06-16-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6825873)
Then you won't get anything worth a ****. And the "ready now" stipulation is the kind of crap that Glass used to insist upon.

That's how you get Perez for Dye and a cluster**** for Beltran. You want talent in return, but this doesn't necessarily mean advanced prospects or ML-ready ones.

Well, here is an idea that I have....don't ****ing trade him. Keep your good players and go get more. Glass or Baird was stupid about that shit. The bottom line is this, if we are only going to keep good players until, for some reason we don't want to pay them then this team is doomed. We will forever be a team with 1 good player, maybe 2 and forever waiting on prospects to mature to replace them as we pawn them off.

DeezNutz 06-16-2010 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6825892)
Well, here is an idea that I have....don't ****ing trade him. Keep your good players and go get more. Glass or Baird was stupid about that shit. The bottom line is this, if we are only going to keep good players until, for some reason we don't want to pay them then this team is doomed. We will forever be a team with 1 good player, maybe 2 and forever waiting on prospects to mature to replace them as we pawn them off.

LMAO.

I understand and largely agree.

petegz28 06-16-2010 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6825879)
Hypothetically, someone is willing to trade you Moosetacos for DDJ. Do you do it?

Young, unproven guy with (allegedly) tremendous upside for a solid ML player. If I'm the Royals, I'd want someone like this and another high-quality prospect. A legit throw-in.

Hell no. Moosetacos, drafted to play SS, moved to 3rd and still is 2 years out. Screw that. That's the "hurry up and wait" mentality I am talking about.

We're never going to win anything if we keep trading away our good players, overpaying has-beens and waiting on prospects.

DeezNutz 06-16-2010 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6825897)
Hell no. Moosetacos, drafted to play SS, moved to 3rd and still is 2 years out. Screw that. That's the "hurry up and wait" mentality I am talking about.

We're never going to win anything if we keep trading away our good players, overpaying has-beens and waiting on prospects.

Not true. It was pretty well accepted at the time of the draft that he'd be at 3B or LF/RF.

Colon should stick, though.

SnakeXJones 06-16-2010 04:11 PM

that sucks that Hoch is on the DL he has been fun to watch this season

petegz28 06-16-2010 04:18 PM

Ok, WTF is wrong with this picture? I'll give a hint, one of these things is not like the others...


The All-Star Game’s Economic Impact

2012, Kansas City: $60-65 million (estimated)

2011, Phoenix: $60-65 million (estimated)

2010, Anaheim, Calif.: $60-65 million (estimated)

2009, St. Louis: $60 million

2008, New York (AL): $148.4 million

2007, San Francisco: $65 million

2006, Pittsburgh: $52.3 million

2005, Detroit: $52.2 million

2004, Houston: $65 million

2003, Chicago (AL): $60 million

2002, Milwaukee: $50 million

2001, Seattle: $50 million

2000, Atlanta: $49 million

1999, Boston: $65 million

1998, Denver: $40.5 million

1997, Cleveland: $37.6 million

1996, Philadelphia: $55.9 million

To reach Bob Dutton, Royals reporter for The Star, send e-mail to bdutton@kcstar.com. Follow his updates at twitter.com/Royals_Report.

Posted on Wed, Jun. 16, 2010 05:06 PM

CaliforniaChief 06-16-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SnakeXJones (Post 6825900)
that sucks that Hoch is on the DL he has been fun to watch this season

I just read in the Star that Yost expects him (Hoch) to miss no more than 2 starts.

SnakeXJones 06-16-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6825906)
I just read in the Star that Yost expects him (Hoch) to miss no more than 2 starts.

Thats not so bad

Sure-Oz 06-17-2010 12:15 AM

I'd still trade DDJ for atleast 2 high level prospects...they are always an 'if' but it's not like we're trading Beltran in his prime here...love DDJ as he works his tail off but he has been known to be injury prone from time to time. That said his value right now is as high as it's ever been. You trade him only for that 'right' haul, anything else tell them to **** off.

Sure-Oz 06-17-2010 12:16 AM

http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2010/...y-mike-sweeney

Sweeney would like to come to kc for 2012 as game...

Mike Sweeney Plans To Be At 2012 MLB All-Star Game In Kansas City

Jun 16 10:34p by Joel Thorman

A very familiar name to Royals fans plans to be in attendance at the 2012 MLB All-Star Game....probably not as a player though.

"My thought was, 'Well, chances are I won't be playing in 2012, but I'd like to be at that game,'" Mike Sweeney said by phone from Seattle.

Sweeney, now with the Mariners, said his teammates were very impressed with not just Kauffman Stadium but everything Kansas City has to offer.

"For many years I called Kansas City home and for it to be recognized for the All-Star Game, I'm already making plans for July 2012," he said.

"Hopefully, we'll see Zack Greinke or Billy Butler or Joakim Soria in the game. Or Mike Moustakas, you never know."

Ah, it's good to hear Sweeney's heart is still in the right place.


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