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cdcox 03-17-2011 09:44 AM

If you are worried about the effects of nuclear power on human health, please google "excess deaths air pollution" (without quotes) and get back to
me.

Pants 03-17-2011 09:49 AM

How is this even a debate? Nuclear > Coal.

CrazyPhuD 03-17-2011 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7496183)
How is this even a debate? Nuclear > Coal.

yea but you can't put nuclear rods in the stockings of bad children for that reason Coal > Nuclear.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-17-2011 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 7496126)
Well, yes, but just by walking, talking, breathing and eating you're exposed to background radiation.

That's facetious.

Dylan 03-17-2011 11:19 AM

Last one out turn off Mr. Coffee

Bwana 03-17-2011 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 7496191)
yea but you can't put nuclear rods in the stockings of bad children for that reason Coal > Nuclear.

LMAO

Rep

Rausch 03-17-2011 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 7496137)
Dumbass, you're thinking of Italy.

Dumbass, who thinks of Italy?...
:spock:

jiveturkey 03-17-2011 11:29 AM

This vid does an excellent job of explaining the situation in poo terms.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="510" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/5sakN2hSVxA?rel=0&amp;hd=1" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Rausch 03-17-2011 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jiveturkey (Post 7496391)
This vid does an excellent job of explaining the situation in poo terms.

I'm pretty sure that's the only terms you can explain it in...

Just Passin' By 03-17-2011 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 7496153)
For the record, as far as I know, that is 18 more people than ever died in teh US for working in the nuclear power plant industry.

RECA says otherwise. Coal mining results in deaths. Uranium mining results in deaths.

DJ's left nut 03-17-2011 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jiveturkey (Post 7496391)
This vid does an excellent job of explaining the situation in poo terms.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="510" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/5sakN2hSVxA?rel=0&amp;hd=1" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

There is a real chance that I'll never spend 4 minutes of my life more effectively again.

That. Was. Awesome.

Rausch 03-17-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7496420)
There is a real chance that I'll never spend 4 minutes of my life more effectively again.

...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CAXRcebhcY...e-poster-0.jpg

Amnorix 03-17-2011 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7496326)
That's facetious.


eh, wha....? You're saying that there aren't constant, very low and usually safe levels of radiation all around us all the time?

Amnorix 03-17-2011 12:04 PM

I have a fascinating report from a well known investment bank that I can't post due to copyright issues, but I can quickly summarize.

1. The phrase "spent" fuel rods is potentially misleading, because the term spent doesn't mean inert/inactive. It means their usefulness is spent because they have accumulated additional neutrons from the fissioning process adn thus become MORE unpredictable and MORE radioactive. Spent rods have more radioactive particles than in the operating reactors.

2. A Brookhaven National Laboratory study using OLDER spent fuel than at Fukushima estimated that all water would boil away after 40 hours, a much shorter time than what has otherwise been posted on this thread.

3. The Fukushima spent fuel pools are near the top of the plant, which makes them harder to deal with, and a generally more dangerous situation. It's also not entirely clear what happens when you pour water on spent fuel rods if the zirconium casing has been compromised.

4. According to the newsletter, and something I haven't seen elsewhere, it's possible that all the power problems stem from having the fuel storage tanks for the backup generators sitting OUT IN THE OPEN ON THE FRICKING BEACH, with aerial photos suggesting the tsunami completely took them out to sea. If they had just had the fuel protected (underground or within sturdy structures), maybe none of this would be happening, comparing the situation at Daiichi to Daini, only 10 miles away, where the situation is stable (and where the fuel for the backup generators was not compromised).

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-17-2011 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 7496440)
eh, wha....? You're saying that there aren't constant, very low and usually safe levels of radiation all around us all the time?

No, I'm saying such an observation is facetious. It's a pointless exercise in semantics.


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