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Hammock Parties 01-29-2017 11:20 AM

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Maybe the least talked about Smith throw in his career (and maybe for good reason pain wise) was that overthrow to Kyle Williams early in the NFC Championship game.

It wasn't just 7 points (that he eventually got to Vernon later in the game), but the dramatic long yardage score could have been bigger momentum early and could have forced the Giants to back off and let Smith play his game better.

Safe to say the 49ers win the game if he makes that one throw. With the defense we had that year, you didn't need 5 or 6 big throws a game from him like that....just 1 or 2.
http://i.imgur.com/ux06BHh.gif

Bowser 01-29-2017 11:55 AM

Hey, look at that! History DOES repeat itself!

notorious 01-29-2017 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12715654)
Hey, look at that! History DOES repeat itself!


At least he let it go.


He doesn't even do that against the Steelers. ****ing pussy.

Bowser 01-29-2017 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12715669)
At least he let it go.


He doesn't even do that against the Steelers. ****ing pussy.

If you are saying that he would have likely thrown it to Hill of he were double covered like Williams is in that gif, then I think I believe you, actually.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-29-2017 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12715372)
There was a legitimate case to be made last year to bring Alex back for 2016 bc he was ascending, but now after this season he's declining.

This offseason needs to be the one that Andy moves on like he did with McNabb.

Dorsey and Reid brought on Maclin to play like a #1 receiver, he didn't meet his end of the bargain this season yet in many categories Smith still achieved the same and with arguably a more difficult schedule. Changes won't come until 2017 on the starting position, but I think we'd all be shocked if they don't draft a QB

notorious 01-29-2017 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12715677)
If you are saying that he would have likely thrown it to Hill of he were double covered like Williams is in that gif, then I think I believe you, actually.

It's like he doesn't see the WR unless there is a group of defenders around. LMAO

kcchiefsus 01-29-2017 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12715720)
Dorsey and Reid brought on Maclin to play like a #1 receiver, he didn't meet his end of the bargain this season yet in many categories Smith still achieved the same and with arguably a more difficult schedule. Changes won't come until 2017 on the starting position, but I think we'd all be shocked if they don't draft a QB

This franchise is run by pansies, all the way up to the top. They won't do shit at QB, they'll wait for Alex to be done just like they did with Trent Green. Even if they do make a move, you can be guaranteed it will be either the wrong move or someone else will jump ahead of them in the draft and take the guy they want.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-29-2017 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 12715754)
This franchise is run by pansies, all the way up to the top. They won't do shit at QB, they'll wait for Alex to be done just like they did with Trent Green. Even if they do make a move, you can be guaranteed it will be either the wrong move or someone else will jump ahead of them in the draft and take the guy they want.

So do you regret we didn't move up for Paxton Lynch? I sure as hell don't. QB still remains as one of the biggest crap shoots, even with all the scouting that is done. We had huge needs to fill last year and Dorsey did a pretty damn good job filling many of those gaps (DL, WR/ST playmaker, OL ) .Those 3 all have shown us enough that they could be top 10 at their position soon. (ehinger is a bit of stretch but the drop off to Fulton was definitely noticeable in the run game).

kcchiefsus 01-29-2017 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12715763)
So do you regret we didn't move up for Paxton Lynch? I sure as hell don't. QB still remains as one of the biggest crap shoots, even with all the scouting that is done. We had huge needs to fill last year and Dorsey did a pretty damn good job filling many of those gaps (DL, WR/ST playmaker, OL ) .Those 3 all have shown us enough that they could be top 10 at their position soon. (ehinger is a bit of stretch but the drop off to Fulton was definitely noticeable in the run game).

Even if he was a bust I would have been happier if we at least tried.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-29-2017 01:00 PM

Fair enough. They did make a reach trying with Hogan (who I thought had potential if he could clean up his mechanics). When you see the Brady's/Daks/Russell Wilsons of the draft and you have huge voids in your roster it's hard to blame Dorsey if he wants to try again with a 3rd round pick or later. But as I said earlier, 2018 will definitely be the year we have the cap space to take a stab at it with a 1st or 2nd round pick.

milkman 01-29-2017 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12715794)
Fair enough. They did make a reach trying with Hogan (who I thought had potential if he could clean up his mechanics). When you see the Brady's/Daks/Russell Wilsons of the draft and you have huge voids in your roster it's hard to blame Dorsey if he wants to try again with a 3rd round pick or later. But as I said earlier, 2018 will definitely be the year we have the cap space to take a stab at it with a 1st or 2nd round pick.

Cap space is irrelevant with a draft pick.

SAUTO 01-29-2017 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12715797)
Cap space is irrelevant with a draft pick.

He's said that multiple times today.

What are we gonna do with our first round pick this year? Forfeit it?

BossChief 01-29-2017 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12715794)
Fair enough. They did make a reach trying with Hogan (who I thought had potential if he could clean up his mechanics). When you see the Brady's/Daks/Russell Wilsons of the draft and you have huge voids in your roster it's hard to blame Dorsey if he wants to try again with a 3rd round pick or later. But as I said earlier, 2018 will definitely be the year we have the cap space to take a stab at it with a 1st or 2nd round pick.

We had 3 4th rounders (all before Dak Prescott was taken) and passed all 3 times and then took Hogan after Dak was drafted.

It is what it is, but this team needs to make a move to get a front line starter groomed to take over in 2 years, or sooner.

These guys (Reid and Dorsey) were brought in to win a championship.

No excuses.

BigCatDaddy 01-29-2017 04:01 PM

Rodgers, Wilson, Prescott, and Carr were all on the board for us. Matt Ryan and Ryan Tannehil taken close enough to us a trade could have been done. The "nobody was available argument" can eat shit.

Hammock Parties 01-29-2017 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12716148)
Rodgers, Wilson, Prescott, and Carr were all on the board for us. Matt Ryan and Ryan Tannehil taken close enough to us a trade could have been done. The "nobody was available argument" can eat shit.

Flacco and Brees, too.


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