Yeah...I bet he does real well at reading defenses and making second or third reads.

BUT, I do so hope that some of us(i.e. you guys) are correct! IF we draft that way!

yeah, he does

so what exactly is your point you aids guzzling pig raper?

Once again....IF we draft that way...I hope that you are right....my point is...this is a forum, and just because there is a differing opinion, MUST we immediately start getting pissy? Complete thought, and looking at all senerios is always good.

And you know this how, you felching, maggot infested anal licker?

I've looked at all the other scenerios....they make me want to leap off the tallest bridge into an AIDS/Sharktopus infested river

Thats the thing, if you don't wantto take Geno, fine. Who you taking at first overall then?

A CB? A MLB?

Cause if you are gonna argue that Geno isn't a good enough value pick there, neither are a CB or MLB.

i watched every ****ing game he played, dipshit

you're only the 10000th moran who hasn't watched him play to show up and drop your pants...

we get it...you're a dumb pussy like most every other chiefs fan, and you'd rather not draft a QB at all because it is too risky and costs too much of Clark's money...

how about you do us a favor: Kill Yourself

have your fat whore mom tape it, then mail it to Chiefsplanet so we can upload it to a stickied thread and have access to it forever

this is a GENO SMITH THREAD YOU **** TARD


when people who don't watch football show up and tell us that a player they've never watched isn't worth drafting, we have no god damn choice but to recommend you shove a helicopter up your ass

you could start a thread called "Pussies discuss players they've never watched"


i'm sure it would be a big hit...given how many of you there are on this board

Guess I'll fire up a Teo thread for the True Fans...

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by Colin Lindsay, Editor and Publisher, Great Blue North Draft Report

December 17, 2012
Who’s not #1 this year, but just wait … With the college football regular season in the books, the bowls just under and the top post-season all-star games now just over a month away, there is still no consensus top prospect for the 2013 draft. Part of the problem, of course, is that it does not appear as if there will any QBs worth the top pick this year, although Geno Smith of West Virginia and/or Southern Cal’s Matt Barkley are still potential top ten prospects. Take a poll of pro scouts as to who is the top prospect, though, and you’ll get a myriad of answers. Some teams, for example, have Texas A&M junior OT Luke Joeckel at the top of their board, while a number of other teams have either Georgia junior OLB Jarvis Jones or Utah DT Star Lotolelei in the #1 slot. We’ve even heard some whispers that no one should be surprised if Texas A&M junior DE Damontre Moore is ultimately the first guy off the board this coming April.

Take the same poll of pro scouts and the current college player that just about every team in the league would snap up with the top pick if they had it would be South Carolina sophomore DE Jadevon Clowney. However, the 6-6, 260-pound Clowney who had 21 sacks in his who had 21 sacks in his two years of eligibility including 13 this past season, won’t be draft eligible until 2014. In fact, a pretty good case could be made that true sophomores would make up a crowd at the top of the 2013 draft if they were eligible for this year’s draft. What Clowney is to the defense, for example, Southern California WR Marqise Lee is to the offense. Indeed Lee, a speedster who also runs track for the Trojans in the off-season, emerged as college football’s most dangerous receiver this fall when he caught 112 passes for 1,700 yards and 14 scores. Meanwhile, Clemson WR Sammy Watkins isn’t all that far behind, although he wasn’t able to duplicate his fabulous freshman year this past season as he dealt with some off-field stuff as well some injury issues; still, like Lee, he’s a top 5 prospect with track speed. And while the defensive line appears to be the strength of the 2013 draft, there is a better than even chance that Notre Dame 5-tech DE Stephon Tuitt, a 305-pounder who had 12 sacks this past season, would also come off the board within the first 5 or so picks were he eligible this spring, especially given the fact that he will no doubt get plenty of looks as 4-3 DT whenever he does enter the draft. Then there is Arizona RB Ka’Deem Carey who led the nation in rushing this fall with almost 150 yards per game and topped it off with another 172 yards and three scores in the Wildcats improbable comeback win over Nevada in the New Mexico Bowl. For the year, the 5-9, 200-pound Carey ran for 1,929 yards and 23 scores, while adding another 300-plus yards on 36 carries. Of course, those guys have to stay healthy and productive, but suggests that 2014 could be something of a special draft.

Burt, if you have another plan on who or what to draft, I'm all ears.

Can someone help me understand the comment "Well there aren't any QBs this year unfortunately.". I have heard fans say it, announcers say it, draft experts say it. Here is this 6'3 225 pound kid that's started three years, gotten better each year, is obviously a very gifted athlete, and has the smarts to succeed at the next level, and for some reason, only a few see it.

What's the "catch" on Geno. I've watched him play a lot and he is obviously a Top 10 talent in a QB driven league. I simply don't ****ing get it.
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Geno has read exactly as many PROFESSIONAL defenses as Ryan Leaf did before he was drafted, you male taint licker. Suck hand lotion out of Claytons ass and spit it up in Autumn winds ass. **** you and your splendid cock sucking little sister...then I will eyeball socket **** you both!!! Gee this is so mature and fun

can someone explain to me how ****ing stupid you would have to be to not draft a QB with the #1 pick if you're the Chiefs?

i mean is there even a system to measure just how ****ing stupid that would be? numbers don't go high enough to quantify it...

Thanks, O. but I really don't. My statement was that I can see Domer's scenario as well as drafting Smith. And that just looking at different ideas doesn't make some one wrong, especially when we are all just speculating anyway.

There is no catch. The only issue that Geno has is that he's following a year where Luck and RGIII came out. If last year never happened and Luck/RGIII didn't exist.....Geno Smith would be a consensus #1 pick.

you've never watched a single snap of his

your opinion is less than worthless...it's the crusty semen on your mom's pig hole when she wakes up in a dumpster outside of Akron...

you are one of many chiefs fans that deserves another decade of losing...you assholes are the reason this franchise is a farce

Burt, would you draft this QB?

POSITIVES: Big-armed pocket passer with the ability to grow into a franchise quarterback. Sets up to deliver the ball with solid footwork, stands strong in the pocket and smart. Sells the ball fakes, scans the field and consistently finds the open pass-catcher. Senses the rush yet buys as much time as possible, waiting for the last second before releasing the ball. Rarely panics, in complete control of the offense and a true leader behind center. Natural looking off the safety, throws with a fluid over delivery and possesses a big arm. Drives deep passes downfield, puts zip on the intermediate routes as well as velocity on all his throws. Throws tight spirals and beautifully arches deep throws. Leads receivers over the middle and very accurate. Gets outside tackle and accurate passing on the move. Does not make poor decisions and always working to make positive plays.

NEGATIVES: A pocket passer with marginal mobility and cannot escape the rush. Must improve his downfield accuracy as well as the placement of the outs. Majority of snaps are taken out of the shotgun.

Heard soooo many tards lately go "trade down and wait 2 years for Johnny Football!!!!!" **** this fanbase sometimes.

You really need to get a life. And because I state something that you disagree I have never watched him play? Jesus christ, you may be the dumbest mother ****er that but ****ed his dad while eating his sister!!

Those same scouts are supposedly saying Smith isn't even ranked as high as Newton coming out, so blaming it all on RGIII and Luck is misplaced.

Domer wants to draft a player first overall, that in the defense we run, is the 8th or 9th most important position. Even if he is Ray Lewis, playing that spot on D won't matter.

He does. Most of his reads are pre-snap, and he will progress if his initial options are not available. Which admittedly isn't often, because his first reads are usually Austin or Bailey, and they're both really ****ing good.

People can say whatever they want about his mechanics or his footwork or how he looks quirky to them in some intangible way, but the reality is that he's really good at knowing where to go with the ball and how best to get it there. There's a reason he completed 70+% of his passes and had 40 TD against 6 INTs, and it's not because of competition. The guy is really good. He had the kind of season people would be talking about as historic if only West Virginia had fielded a defense that could actually stop anybody.

It's like people trying to use the Oklahoma game against him. The guy throws for 320 yards, has 4 TD against 2 picks against one of the highest ranked passing defenses in the country, but he lost 50-49. So he must suck.

People talk about the TCU game as a bad one, too. I mean yeah, the guy only had 260 yards passing, 3 TD and 1 INT and they lost 39-38 in double overtime. Awful.

Defense makes one stop in either of those games, they're an 8-4 team, ranked somewhere in the top-25. Make a stop in both those games and he's in the Heisman discussion at 9-3, with the same exact stats that he has on a 7-5 team.

You can point to Kansas State, he turned the ball over in that one (it was one of TWO 2-int games he's had in the past two seasons - and only the third game in 3 seasons as a starter where he had more INTs than TDs.), and you can point to Texas Tech (although I would argue against that one). But at the end of the day, the problems with WVU were not Geno Smith. He did his part.

Let me reiterate something: in three seasons as a starter he had three games where he threw more picks than scores. Three. And this is a guy regularly throwing 30+ times a game. This isn't Greg freaking McElroy riding the best defense in college football. This is a guy that's excelled playing in both a pro-style offense (in 2010) and a spread offense (2011-12), a guy who's been asked to be the focal point and done it at a high level for three years.

And yet somehow he's not good enough for the #1 pick? When he shoots up the board in March after all the workouts are done, people are going to talk about him like he's some kind of workout climber? Right. It's not like he's completed more than 65% of his passes for his career, or thrown for more than 10,000 yards, or thrown 96 TDs against 20 INTs. He's not a top QB, not with a mediocre performance like that.

He played like crap in the first half of the Oklahoma game. Meh third quarter and excellent in the 4th.

I've been told not to bitch unless you have a solution and so far NOBODY has come into this Geno thread with a valuable concept of an alternative that would benefit the chiefs more than drafting Geno Smith. Sure, I've seen people say, "There are no QB's worth a #1 pick this year" but I've still yet to hear WHY.

The Chiefs #1 need is a QB. The Chiefs should hold the #1 pick. Therefor, it should be spent on the highest need available. Geno Smith is the top prospect available, and in many's eye's just as good as of prospect as RG3 was coming out last year.

Many here have watched Geno Smith for 3 years and understand using the eye test that he could have what it takes to be ELITE, not just good.

I'd like to hear some REAL evidence and arguements as to WHY THE CHIEFS should draft someone other than Geno Smith at #1.
PS: fuck your trade down scenario, because the only people trading up are going to be Jumping for Geno.

Iowanian called, he wants his colorful cursing schtick back cause you make it look so pedestrian! Because YOU say so, and you can ALMOST curse as good as Iowanian..it is so? Suck my cock after I butt **** your Dad...after three days crust has developed because I didn't shower, you sperm bank of the Jr. HS school locker room! Oh, I forgot to pay your sister so give her a dime.

Nice...thank you. Once again...I am NOT saying that we shouldn't draft him, first...just entertaining other possibilities!!

BULLSHIT!!! HE IS TEH SAVIOR!!! YOU HAVE NEVER WATCHED HIM< YOU DIPSHIT< *^(*)< %%%$$#@$< **&^&%%!!! ROFLROFLROFL

Thanks for at least NOT hanging from his ball sac!

burt, you will be craving the Chocolatey Penii by April guarendamteed!!!

And I'm saying there shouldn't even be any other possibilities at this point. Not if we're picking #1. Or if we're picking #2 and he's still on the board.

People are afraid of drafting a quarterback here. I didn't use to believe that but I've finally come to accept it as fact. When we're picking in the 20s, people say we're too low to do it. When we're picking in the single digits, people say there isn't one, or that we should trade out.

NO!

We ****ed up in 2009. And it doesn't have anything to do with Mark Sanchez. That guy should never have been a top-5 pick. But we stayed put instead of moving up for Stafford. We ****ed up in 2008. Matt Ryan was on the board at 3, and we didn't move up from 5.

Well, here we are folks. We're going to be in blue chip territory now, and there's a blue chip quarterback there. It's time to stop making excuses, it's time to stop looking for every possible reason not to do it, it's time to stop being afraid and just get the job done. And if it doesn't work, you try again. And you keep trying, until you get there.

We've done it with 5 techs. How about we do it with the most important position in sports.

Oh, I so hope so........

So he got better under pressure and performed extremely well when the game was on the line.

CLAP CLAP CLAP

You just described about 80% of the famed "4th quarter comebacks" in football history.

Same with this years game @ Texas after coming off the 10109209 TD game.

I really didn't think he would be able to live up to that pressure and he did.


Texas Tech game I didn't get to watch. =/

Agreed

I do see this point! But I also see Domer's point! I admit, I stand in the shadow of most of you when it comes to the draft.....AND IF we get Smith, I hope you and PGM is correct!! I will put it in my sig....then!

Domer doesn't have a point. Anybody talking about drafting Manti Te'o at #1 is insane, whether Geno Smith is part of the discussion or not.

:clap:

Great point!

Yeah, you are right. ****in' Domer didn't want to get rid of Jared Allen or Tony G. either!!

yeah, i would hate to draft a dominant FOOTBALL player in the NFL Draft...

I don't think anyone really WANTED to rid of them, but if you understand that football is also a business, then you realize that you needed to get the best value for them and send them on their way.

I'd bet after the combine, Teo goes late in the first. He's a great great college football player.


But the position he plays and his measurable s will hurt him.

YOU ##@$$$%< %%&$*##!!!!ROFLROFL

Yes, lets put NEED aside and just draft a MLB because he was good in college. Great idea.

True or False Domer, you have to have dominant ILB play to win a SB.

I forgot....HOW much UNDER cap were we last year?

We were top 10 in cash spending, which is what is regulated in the new CBA. We were however way under the cap.

Keith Brooking is the bestest MLB in the league and a true warrior leading Denver to the promised land/Slowmo

true or false, when you have the first overall pick, you should pick the twentieth best player overall.

That was last year. Did you forget Allen and Tony were moved during Carls tenure?

This year's dumb**** award winner for sure. ILB #1 OVERALL HURR

Regardless of whose tenure....we had the finances...with a little creativity, we could have kept two or even three of the best players in their positions...but chose to become the Royals of the NFL. Hey, the stands WERE full!

It's tough to make a comeback in the NFL when you play as poorly as he did early in the game. The NFL isn't generally as forgivable.

True, if it's at a position of need.


Teo is a MLB. It's absolutely not a game changing position. Tim Tebow was once the best player in college, guess he should have went overall?

It's all about projecting and developing at this point. Geno projects and could develop into an elite player who happens to play a position that will make the most difference in all of sports.

I just don't understand how people could watch Geno play and not like what they see. Must still be a bunch of racist, redneck ****s running around.

I don't understand your point on Geno. It seems you are just going against the mainstream thought here to be different.


RGIII almost lost to the worst football team in Division 1 football last year. Did he get bombed for that? Nope.

Cudos to everyone that is actually discussing.... the ****tards that just want to call names are just.....well, ****tards.

**** you haters. Geno is the cream of the QB crop this draft. If you don't have a franchise QB, you take him.

So to anyone who wants to come in here and knock Geno, explain to me who and what you do with the first overall pick.

MUST be! I have never watched him!! :rolleyes: For the umpteenth time, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU!! But Domer's opinion is entertaining and worth discussion.

Again, Domer, Chiefnj etc, would you draft this player #1 overall based on this scouting report?

DL/MLB/OT/Midget!

You don't get it, do you?

We've put forth all kinds of elegant arguments for Geno. All you've done is say, "I disagree" without backing up anything you say.

When we call you a choosy asshole, you say, "HERP DERP I DISAGREE U CANT CENSOR ME"

Wanna blame this embarrassing shit **** behavior of yours on Crown Royal too?

I love crown royal. I drank a fifth two weekends ago.

We have argueably done that twice recently. A strong case could have been made for both Dorsey and Berry being the best of the draft class the year they came out. What has that done for us?

I know that I am setting myself up....but I gotta.... I would probably draft that QB based on that report.....subject to who else was available, etc.....

Lol, cute.

Your brother is a dipshit
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Truth.

burt, let's play a game.

You write a few sentences about something you feel passionately about. Doesn't matter what it is. Football, politics, anything.

I'll respond with "I disagree" and then proceed to spout off a bunch of bullshit I just made up to counter what you said.

Go.

Was Matt Stafford the best player in college his last year?

I can't wait for Scott Wright's scouting report on Geno Smith. Dude is the best in the draft business.

Wasn't singling you out man. Was just a general comment and I've discussed the upcoming draft with people IRL that made notions towards being ignorant rednecks. Need a pocket passer not a scrambler!!! Too dumb!!! Can't read a defense!!!....Crap like that.

We should probably draft Geno in round one and Dysert in round two and hire two amazing QB coaches and let them get a shitton of practice reps with the first and second squads. Geno is more NFL ready, so he would play and we would develop Dysert behind him just in case.

I haven't ever said I would or wouldn't draft ANY player based on an unnamed unsourced draft report. Nick Athan could have written that for all I know.

Well, thats Big Ben, who was drafted #11.


We can't just go based on what the scouts say, there is a much larger picture.

Okay you inbred stupid mother ****er...If you could read, i said, I DON'T disagree!!! ****, you are dumber than Clay is gay!!! I only said Domer's idea is entertaining and worth discussion... Please, you non reading, booger eating, shit rolling, dipshit, please show once where I mentioned censorship or said I disagree!

For the record, I never said Smith shouldn't be KC's pick, only that this board is WAY more in love with the kid than the scouts are. But any dissenting or questioning opinion of Geno is met with a staunch Clausen/Sanchez defense.

I hate player comparisons, but Dysert is the second coming of Big Ben without all the shitty character issues.