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Sweet Daddy Hate 08-30-2013 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 9925826)
You guys were right. Baldwin sucks. He dropped a sure TD for us today. Hands of stone. He looks slower than his timed speed too. Just a big guy who really looks the part but can't play. He's worthless. Haha. You Chiefs fans weren't kidding.

On another note I saw AJ Jenkins tripped, almost fell down, regained his footing, was super late on his route and it resulted in an interception in the 1st quarter. That's the same crap he was doing for us.....LMAO

Enjoy!

Fat Elvis 08-30-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9926033)
The stumble was unfortunate, but that's no excuse for Daniel to throw a boneheaded pass into double coverage.

Unfortunate pass, yes--but the fact of the matter is that Jenkins sucks. We have other receivers lower on the depth chart who are 10x the player he is. I just hope Reid and Dorsey understand that and keep the good talent on the team and dump the dead weight.

Mr. Laz 08-30-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9926296)
Unfortunate pass, yes--but the fact of the matter is that Jenkins sucks. We have other receivers lower on the depth chart who are 10x the player he is. I just hope Reid and Dorsey understand that and keep the good talent on the team and dump the dead weight.

it was good to see Hammond and Hemingway play well

cwhocares 08-30-2013 11:16 AM

I think Jenkins and Baldwin just traded jerseys and not teams. I would have been happy with a good solid water boy for Baldwin.

SanDiego49er 08-30-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9926033)
The stumble was unfortunate, but that's no excuse for Daniel to throw a boneheaded pass into double coverage.

But you see stumble and fall down is what he does. He did that for us all training camp and preseason. He can't run routes without stumbling and falling. He's weak and soft and hates the jam at the line and can't get off the line. He's not physical and is small. This is not the first time he did that. He did that all 2012 and 2013 camp and preaseason. You will see more of it. LOL. He sucks. I'm telling you.

DaFace 08-30-2013 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 9926566)
But you see stumble and fall down is what he does. He did that for us all training camp and preseason. He can't run routes without stumbling and falling. He's weak and soft and hates the jam at the line and can't get off the line. He's not physical and is small. This is not the first time he did that. He did that all 2012 and 2013 camp and preaseason. You will see more of it. LOL. He sucks. I'm telling you.

Phew...thanks for clearing that up for us. I really appreciate you coming here to warn us. Here I was thinking that Bowe was going to be fighting for his starting spot this season.

SanDiego49er 08-30-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9926622)
Phew...thanks for clearing that up for us. I really appreciate you coming here to warn us. Here I was thinking that Bowe was going to be fighting for his starting spot this season.

Haha. I see that Baldwin also sucks. He is already dropping sure TD's right in his hands for us. He sure doesn't play to his timed speed either. Looks slow with hands of stone.

Truthfully they are both just wothless. If both teams were smart they would cut these guys and move on as soon as the cap hit is not too severe.

RealSNR 08-30-2013 01:01 PM

These games from 2011 aren't anything special. I have no idea why he was as highly touted as he was.

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SanDiego49er 08-30-2013 01:05 PM

[QUOTE=SNR;9926668]These games from 2011 aren't anything special. I have no idea why he was as highly touted as he was.



1) Speed.

2) Youtube "AJ Jenkins Northwestern."

RealSNR 08-30-2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 9926676)
These games from 2011 aren't anything special. I have no idea why he was as highly touted as he was.



1) Speed.

2) Youtube "AJ Jenkins Northwestern."

I saw the Northwestern game.

I wasn't impressed. When I was planning out the top prospects in the 2011 CP Mock, AJ Jenkins wasn't anywhere close.

Lots of guys and draft experts predicted 3rd round for him. The Niners took him in the 1st.

I'm still stunned.

-King- 08-30-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9926668)
These games from 2011 aren't anything special. I have no idea why he was as highly touted as he was.

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He wasn't. From what I hear, he was a 3rd round prospect that Harbaugh and Baalk overdrafted.

Sandy Vagina 08-30-2013 01:27 PM

I had Jenkins as a 3rd rd prospect. I'd still rather him over Baldwin. Whether he does anything or not, I am hopeful that it won't matter. That Bowe, Avery, McC, and Hemmingway stay healthy.

SanDiego49er 08-30-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9926714)
I saw the Northwestern game.

I wasn't impressed. When I was planning out the top prospects in the 2011 CP Mock, AJ Jenkins wasn't anywhere close.

Lots of guys and draft experts predicted 3rd round for him. The Niners took him in the 1st.

I'm still stunned.

The Rams were going to take him 2 picks later. So this 3rd round stuff is a myth. He was going late 1st, early 2nd. Exacly where he did go. The Rams said so publically btw. If we didn't pick him they would a few picks later. So he wouldn't be there in the 3rd.

He put up real good production in the Big Ten. He ran in the 4.3's. He was pretty coveted at least at the time.

Now hindsight says he sucks. But that is hindsight. You can always have a perfect draft every year with hindsight looking back on it with knowledge from the future. Right? LOL.

RealSNR 08-30-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 9926733)
The Rams were going to take him 2 picks later. So this 3rd round stuff is a myth. He was going late 1st, early 2nd. Exacly where he did go. The Rams said so publically btw. If we didn't pick him they would a few picks later. So he wouldn't be there in the 3rd.

He put up real good production in the Big Ten. He ran in the 4.3's. He was pretty coveted at least at the time.

Now hindsight says he sucks. But that is hindsight. You can always have a perfect draft every year with hindsight looking back on it with knowledge from the future. Right? LOL.

No, I'm saying I (myself) didn't value him. This isn't hindsight. I legitimately didn't think very much of him. Not more than a 3rd rounder (at the most) which is what a lot of draft gurus were saying about Jenkins.

SanDiego49er 08-30-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9926739)
No, I'm saying I (myself) didn't value him. This isn't hindsight. I legitimately didn't think very much of him. Not more than a 3rd rounder (at the most) which is what a lot of draft gurus were saying about Jenkins.

He's no better than a 7th rounder. LOL. But that is hindsight.

1) He did put up very good college production.
2) He did run in the 4.3's.
3) He strangely had pretty good hands in college but drops everything in the pros.

Honestly I think 2 things with Jenkins after watching for a year + another camp and Preseason.

1) I think something is in his head. He lost all his confidence.
2) I think he is just not that big and strong for the NFL and struggles with the physical nature of the game.

2 could be causing 1 to get worse.

He barley benched 225 many times at the combine. He was kind of weak. He was listed at 190 something. I'd say more like 180. He's skinny as a toothpick. The 49ers told him to gain weight in the weight room. Add muscle. He added like 4 pounds all offseason. Haha. Not kidding. I think he may just have one of those real skinny builds that can't add a lot of weight or muscle.

His problem has always been that he gets pushed around on jam and in the route too sometimes. He's not physical and can't fight for the ball either with a defender when they are both close.

If you just run him in a straight line he's pretty fast. If you put the pads on and get physical with real football he's not very good.


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