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Mother****erJones 04-27-2013 11:20 AM

Why do we always get the GM that never wheels and deals on draft day

Spicy McHaggis 04-27-2013 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9637328)
There are a lot of really solid prospects still out there.

Rambo, Williams, Rogers, Patton and I really like Swope as a potential slot WR. And I'm an unabashed Bray fan as well.

There's a lot of talent that can help us out quite a bit here, IMO.

I'd love to get Swope, Rambo or Bray.

Mr. Laz 04-27-2013 11:22 AM

Hodges is a good pick

Bump 04-27-2013 11:22 AM

oops

the Talking Can 04-27-2013 11:22 AM

what do people think about kruger (de) here?

rambo
patton
bray
swope
kruger

DTLB58 04-27-2013 11:22 AM

Don Banks ‏@DonBanks 2m

4th round is your backup QB market this year. Orton-Fitzpatrick in '05 are last QBs to go 4th rd-or-lower and have any starting success.

Setsuna 04-27-2013 11:22 AM

Harper gone

penbrook 04-27-2013 11:22 AM

Ive heard Reid loves Matt Scott.

DJ's left nut 04-27-2013 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis (Post 9637341)
I'd love to get Swope, Rambo or Bray.

The Chiefs never do what I want them to, so I'm absolutely certain that none of those guys will be taken.

We're late enough into the draft that this point that they usually start taking guys I've never even heard of.

I wonder if Colin Brown has a brother.

penbrook 04-27-2013 11:23 AM

Ive heard Reid loves Matt Scott.

Dylan 04-27-2013 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9637300)
Meh, it still hurts.

I know it does...I am sensitive to a person's feelings.

Remember this: Andy loves quarterbacks - In my honest opinion, the Chiefs quarterback will most likely be found in next year’s draft.

Just my opinion.

KC kid 04-27-2013 11:23 AM

I would love to see Tyler Bray at 5. If not Bray, I would not be surprised to see us go safety

Chiefaholic 04-27-2013 11:25 AM

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profil...ams?id=2539192

Jesse Williams- DT Alabama 6' 3" 323 LBS


Strengths
Brute nose tackle (though he plays some five-technique) with a very good motor. Solid two-gap player who keeps his eyes in the backfield to find the ball. Plays with leverage, gets under the pads of his man to hold the line or push him into the backfield. Has enough quickness and power off the snap to pop off his blocker and grab backs heading outside or coming through the middle. Uses quick hands to swipe aside lunging blockers to penetrate into the backfield. Stays upright against cut blocks and gives second effort to get up when on the ground. Gets low with power in short-yardage situations. Also hustles to the sideline to chase scrambling quarterbacks and stretch plays when fresh. Pushes the pocket a bit as a pass rusher, and will work past lesser blockers’ shoulders into the backfield. Cleans up piles, sending linebackers flying.
Weaknesses
Not an exceptional athlete, relies on hustle and strength to make plays. Lacks the quickness and agility to be a regular factor in pass rush or corral quicker ballcarriers in space. Thick in the middle and a bit thinner in the legs; plays top-heavy, ends up on the ground too often. Gets caught up on blocks at times inside, lacking hand and foot quickness to disengage to make the play.
NFL Comparison
Sione Pouha
Bottom Line
This Australia native came through the junior college ranks before starting all 13 games for the 2011 BCS champions at five-technique and another 13 games at nose tackle in 2012. Williams uses his size, consistent motor and supreme toughness to drain his opponents at the point of attack. His best NFL position is likely at nose tackle, but Williams has enough athleticism to play multiple spots for a 3-4 team at the next level.

Reaper16 04-27-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9637199)
Not long now until the Chiefs take their obligatory Division 2 or 3 player.

The Chiefs haven't drafted a Division II player since Brandon Carr. I don't even know when the last time they drafted a D3 guy was. This organization mostly avoids those divisions. Nothing obligatory about it.

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 9637353)
I know it does...I am sensitive to a person's feelings.

Remember this: Andy loves quarterbacks - In my honest opinion, the Chiefs quarterback will most likely be found in next year’s draft.

Just my opinion.

The world will end by then, too late.

Frosty 04-27-2013 11:27 AM

Great pick for GB, especially at this point in the draft

Strongside 04-27-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9637357)
The Chiefs haven't drafted a Division II player since Brandon Carr. I don't even know when the last time they drafted a D3 guy was. This organization mostly avoids those divisions. Nothing obligatory about it.

I was being facetious. But thanks.

Mr. Laz 04-27-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9637350)
the stars are aligning. We're totally gonna draft Landry Jones, watch. lol

lol ... wut??

Setsuna 04-27-2013 11:29 AM

ROFL love the tags. GB is going to cut all their RBs except one.

Frosty 04-27-2013 11:29 AM

Is the server taking a shit or is it something on my end? Lag-gy as hell

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9637361)
lol ... wut??

Bump was tokkin' up, he gone man..gone to the feelers.

the Talking Can 04-27-2013 11:29 AM

mike tomlin

"we don't try to create a story based on workouts"


likey

GloryDayz 04-27-2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9637077)
Alex Smith is the only player in NFL history who was benched after completing 26 of his last 28 passes for 5 TD's and 0 turnovers.

Good point. Rep.... Not sure I'm thinking Alex is the next Joe Montana, but that's not the point I guess...

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 9637365)
Is the server taking a shit or is it something on my end? Lag-gy as hell

same....

The Franchise 04-27-2013 11:30 AM

Lacy and Franklin. Damn.

ILChief 04-27-2013 11:31 AM

Did Jesse Williams kill someone?

farmerchief 04-27-2013 11:31 AM

This would be the round to get your developmental QB, then come back next round and get your safety.IMO

bigjosh 04-27-2013 11:31 AM

so there goes gholston

Spicy McHaggis 04-27-2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 9637360)
Great pick for GB, especially at this point in the draft

Packer's have had a great draft thus far IMO.

suzzer99 04-27-2013 11:32 AM

Who is our safety depth this year when Lewis goes down in week 3?

KC kid 04-27-2013 11:32 AM

Franklin is the guy I wanted in Kniles Davis Spot

ShortRoundChief 04-27-2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh006 (Post 9637372)
so there goes gholston

which sucks.

Strongside 04-27-2013 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farmerchief (Post 9637368)
This would be the round to get your developmental QB, then come back next round and get your safety.IMO

Meh. More likely to get a safety that will contribute if you take one here and QB later. The QB will ride the pine...possibly forever, whether we take one here or later.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-27-2013 11:33 AM

The Bucs finally add a lineman, although Gholston is more of a LDE than a pure pass rusher.

Excellent value.

ShortRoundChief 04-27-2013 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 9637374)
Who is our safety depth this year when Lewis goes down in week 3?

The Minnesota muslim guy

Chiefaholic 04-27-2013 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9637370)
Did Jesse Williams kill someone?

Wondering the same thing myself. The guy is a beast on the field and fits perfectly in our defensive scheme. 6'3" 323 lbs and benched 600 lbs. He was projected as a bottom first or top 2nd round pick and he's still available. If he's there at the top of 5, PLEASE take him.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-27-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9637364)
mike tomlin

"we don't try to create a story based on workouts"


likey

As complicated as people try and make the draft, sometimes it's just that simple.

Dylan 04-27-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9637358)
The world will end by then, too late.

No! Six Pro Bowl players last season - Andy will help make his team better - Expect a BIG strong team.

Andy was our biggest nightmare...Do you remember that "L" next to the Giants vs Chiefs in the Chiefs schedule thread? Switch that to a "W."

Trust me - Andy has our number! :D

the Talking Can 04-27-2013 11:36 AM

Jesse Williams DT Alabama
Quinton Patton WR La Tech
Andre Ellington RB Clemson
Zac Dysert QB Miami (OH)
John Simon DE Ohio St
Kevin Reddick ILB UNC
Matt Scott QB Arizona
Cornelius Washington DE Georgia
Brandon Jenkins OLB Florida St
Jordan Poyer CB Oregon St
Michael Buchanan DE Illinois
Bacarri Rambo S Georgia
DeVonte Holloman OLB S Carolina
Mike Gillislee RB Florida
Mike Catapano DE Princeton
Kruger DE

favorites?

ChiefsCountry 04-27-2013 11:37 AM

Niners get Patton.

Setsuna 04-27-2013 11:37 AM

Patton gone

penbrook 04-27-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9637383)
Jesse Williams DT Alabama
Quinton Patton WR La Tech
Andre Ellington RB Clemson
Zac Dysert QB Miami (OH)
John Simon DE Ohio St
Kevin Reddick ILB UNC
Matt Scott QB Arizona
Cornelius Washington DE Georgia
Brandon Jenkins OLB Florida St
Jordan Poyer CB Oregon St
Michael Buchanan DE Illinois
Bacarri Rambo S Georgia
DeVonte Holloman OLB S Carolina
Mike Gillislee RB Florida
Mike Catapano DE Princeton
Kruger DE

favorites?

Scott, Poyer, and Rambo.

the Talking Can 04-27-2013 11:38 AM

packers go RB, OT,OT,RB....need baby

bigjosh 04-27-2013 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 9637374)
Who is our safety depth this year when Lewis goes down in training camp?

fyp

58-4ever 04-27-2013 11:39 AM

The Rams have absolutely WON this draft.

JoeyChuckles 04-27-2013 11:39 AM

Rambo, you're up.

Strongside 04-27-2013 11:39 AM

I'm bout to head to the K and get stupid drunk after this pick.

mcaj22 04-27-2013 11:40 AM

they seem to be targeting positions so far where they can push out a ***** player or draft pick turd

Fisher --> Winston, Jeff Allen, Stephenson
Kelce --> Moeaki
Davis ---> Gray, Draughn
Johnson ---> Belcher, Siler, anyone


so whats left? someone to replace Kendrick Lews and someone to replace Ricky Stanzi. And someone to replace Jerrell Powe/Allen Bailey.

Chiefaholic 04-27-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9637386)
Patton gone

Da'Rick Rogers is my next WR on the board. But, only if Jesse Williams is off the board first

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-27-2013 11:43 AM

The 49ers have had a tremendous draft.

Strongside 04-27-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9637394)
they seem to be targeting positions so far where they can push out a ***** player or draft pick turd

Fisher --> Winston, Jeff Allen, Stephenson
Kelce --> Moeaki
Davis ---> Gray, Draughn
Johnson ---> Belcher, Siler, anyone


so whats left? someone to replace Kendrick Lews and someone to replace Ricky Stanzi. And someone to replace Jerrell Powe/Allen Bailey.

Belcher says Nico can have his spot "Over my dead body"

bigjosh 04-27-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9637394)
they seem to be targeting positions so far where they can push out a ***** player or draft pick turd

Fisher --> Winston, Jeff Allen, Stephenson
Kelce --> Moeaki
Davis ---> Gray, Draughn
Johnson ---> Belcher, Siler, anyone


so whats left? someone to replace Kendrick Lews and someone to replace Ricky Stanzi. And someone to replace Jerrell Powe/Allen Bailey.

i like jerelle powe.... even if he is functionally reeruned.

ChiefaRoo 04-27-2013 11:43 AM

Allen Bailey is a good backup with upside

the Talking Can 04-27-2013 11:43 AM

rambo

Quote:

He started his Georgia career on the scout team, playing quarterback at times to replicate of the option looks the team saw and take advantage of his high school experience in that offense. He shared the team’s Newcomer of the Year on defense in 2009, making 25 tackles and intercepting two passes in 11 games as a reserve. He also blocked a punt in the Independence Bowl against Texas A&M. He stepped into the starting line-up for every game as a sophomore, posting 82 tackles, five for loss and three interceptions. His junior season was filled with great ups and downs, including one of each happening within three days of each other during the 2011 season. In late September, his son was delivered stillborn about 10 days before the due date. He decided to play through the grief, and wound up intercepting two passes in a 27-13 win at Ole Miss. Rambo dedicated that game, and the rest of his Associated Press first-team All-American and consensus first-team All-SEC junior season (eight interceptions, eight pass break-ups), to Braylin, the son he never got to know.


Rambo’s senior season did not get off to a great start. He started off the season suspended for failing a drug test. However, in the 10 games that he did play, Rambo made an impact. He totaled 73 tackles, intercepted 3 passes, and forced 3 fumbles. Even though his suspension shortened his season, Rambo was still named to the All-SEC second-team.

Analysis

Strengths
Possesses the combination of overall strength (befitting a last name mimicking the fictitious role played by Sylvester Stallone) and agility to fill multiple roles on defense. Consistently reads routes and the quarterback’s eyes well, flows with plays from the deep half and breaks on the ball quickly. His strong hands can snatch 50/50 and jump ball passes away from receivers, and is willing to throw his shoulder into receivers over the middle to separate the ball. Effective cut tackler at the second level, also changes directions quickly to wrap up running backs making a quick cut. Good effort, upper body strength to ride receivers and backs with a full head of steam to the ground or sideline. Moves well with receivers downfield, can take away deep options and limit yards after the catch.

Weaknesses
Read-and-react skills, angles to the ball and his ability to break down quickly are inconsistent, and will be eluded by quicker ballcarriers at the next level. Physical receivers can also block him effectively in the run game. Off-field troubles are a problem: suspended for the first game of his junior season, and served another suspension to begin his senior year due to failed drug tests, both from supposed inadvertent ingestion of marijuana.

NFL Comparison
Gerald Sensabaugh

Bottom Line
Possesses the size, athletic skill set, and playmaking ability to become a starter at the next level. However, multiple suspensions for violating team rules might hurt his draft stock.

MrGiggity 04-27-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 9637395)
Da'Rick Rogers is my next WR on the board. But, only if Jesse Williams is off the board first

Rogers
Rambo
Williams

in that order.

Chiefs Pantalones 04-27-2013 11:44 AM

Todd Haley has his Matt Cassel, now comes success.

Chiefaholic 04-27-2013 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9637394)
they seem to be targeting positions so far where they can push out a ***** player or draft pick turd

Fisher --> Winston, Jeff Allen, Stephenson
Kelce --> Moeaki
Davis ---> Gray, Draughn
Johnson ---> Belcher, Siler, anyone


so whats left? someone to replace Kendrick Lews and someone to replace Ricky Stanzi. And someone to replace Jerrell Powe/Allen Bailey.

If I were GM, ABSOLUTELY

Micjones 04-27-2013 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9637383)
Jesse Williams DT Alabama
Quinton Patton WR La Tech
Andre Ellington RB Clemson
Zac Dysert QB Miami (OH)
John Simon DE Ohio St
Kevin Reddick ILB UNC
Matt Scott QB Arizona
Cornelius Washington DE Georgia
Brandon Jenkins OLB Florida St
Jordan Poyer CB Oregon St
Michael Buchanan DE Illinois
Bacarri Rambo S Georgia
DeVonte Holloman OLB S Carolina
Mike Gillislee RB Florida
Mike Catapano DE Princeton
Kruger DE

favorites?

Bacarri Rambo, Mike Catapano, Brandon Jenkins, and Matt Scott.

ShortRoundChief 04-27-2013 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9637394)
they seem to be targeting positions so far where they can push out a ***** player or draft pick turd

Fisher --> Winston, Jeff Allen, Stephenson
Kelce --> Moeaki
Davis ---> Gray, Draughn
Johnson ---> Belcher, Siler, anyone


so whats left? someone to replace Kendrick Lews and someone to replace Ricky Stanzi. And someone to replace Jerrell Powe/Allen Bailey.

I don't think we draft a qb. I think they are content to let stanzi and tanney battle it out for 3

Frosty 04-27-2013 11:45 AM

I would love to have Poyer but I don't know if there is a spot for another corner.

Strongside 04-27-2013 11:46 AM

Lattimore is going to beast in SF

Setsuna 04-27-2013 11:46 AM

Niners get Lattimore. Straight raping the draft.

NJChiefsFan 04-27-2013 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9637394)
they seem to be targeting positions so far where they can push out a ***** player or draft pick turd

Fisher --> Winston, Jeff Allen, Stephenson
Kelce --> Moeaki
Davis ---> Gray, Draughn
Johnson ---> Belcher, Siler, anyone


so whats left? someone to replace Kendrick Lews and someone to replace Ricky Stanzi. And someone to replace Jerrell Powe/Allen Bailey.

I'm not sure they dislike Stephenson. If MIA had given up what Dorsey wanted he would be our RT this year. Johnson replacing Belcher isn't really a knock on the previous Pioli picks skill, since he isn't replacing a guy on the roster but a hole left by a guy that isn't there anymore. Siler was there for depth.

Still, it does seem that they are making quick work to fix the mistakes that Pioli made. Then again, he made so many, any pick is likely to look like that.

Chiefaholic 04-27-2013 11:47 AM

Gut feeling Niners pick up Bray or Dysert with this pick

chiefs1111 04-27-2013 11:47 AM

Wow

milkman 04-27-2013 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9637412)
Lattimore is going to beast in SF

If I were a 9er fan, I would be ecstatic.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-27-2013 11:48 AM

It's obvious to me that the 49ers understand what the draft's all about.

the Talking Can 04-27-2013 11:48 AM

49ers get lattimore

great pick for them

farmerchief 04-27-2013 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 9637374)
Who is our safety depth this year when Lewis goes down in week 3?

Abdullah and Hartman

keg in kc 04-27-2013 11:49 AM

2 picks until our next head-scratching wtf moment

Dayze 04-27-2013 11:50 AM

it's almost like the Niners know what they're doing.

suzzer99 04-27-2013 11:50 AM

Oh good, lets go to Shefter, just in time for a commercial on the Chiefs pick

Strongside 04-27-2013 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9637423)
2 picks until our next head-scratching wtf moment

Really, I've only had one and that was the Davis pick. I think we've been solid other than that. Nico was an awesome pick.

tk13 04-27-2013 11:51 AM

Marcus Lattimore is going to destroy in a Mike Solari power running game if he gets healthy.

ShortRoundChief 04-27-2013 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9637423)
2 picks until our next head-scratching wtf moment

Hoping its williams

keg in kc 04-27-2013 11:52 AM

Woah, to the break before we pick. Changing it up.

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9637425)
it's almost like the Niners know what they're doing.

LOLz yes it is.

penbrook 04-27-2013 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 9637426)
Oh good, lets go to Shefter, just in time for a commercial on the Chiefs pick

Its the Falcons pick.

stonedstooge 04-27-2013 11:52 AM

Colon Klein--Come on Down!

KChiefs1 04-27-2013 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9637423)
2 picks until our next head-scratching wtf moment

Jesse Williams please!


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