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cosmo20002 10-03-2016 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 12463802)
Writing on the wall regarding 2017 and beyond:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dayton Moore says Royals were &quot;living above their means&quot; in payroll this year. It may &quot;regress a little bit&quot; going forward.</p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/782978727596683264">October 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MOORE: I don’t think we’ve signed many guys to long-term deals going into their final year of control.</p>&mdash; Soren Petro (@SorenPetro) <a href="https://twitter.com/SorenPetro/status/782979047169011712">October 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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I think he's managing expectations to some degree. It "may" have to regress.
If he can't re-sign Kendrys or get a starter, he can say he warned you about the payroll.

KChiefs1 10-03-2016 04:41 PM
Last Attendance Update for 2016:
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cosmo20002 10-03-2016 05:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12464510)
Last Attendance Update for 2016:
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Colorado averaged 500 more per game!
I don't even know why Kansas City bothers to have a team.

/PB

Prison Bitch 10-03-2016 08:33 PM
Fangraphs lights up Hoz again. I doubt many will read the defensive explanations so no point even arguing it any more, but now his baserunning metrics have fallen near the bottom of MLB too:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-t...00-rbi-season/



In other news, how badly did we miss Cueto and Zo? Obv great players that outsized this market, we weren't going to keep them but....Cueto finished 4th in pitching fWAR at 5.5, Zo at 4.1. We got almost nothing from 2B and our rotation, so you can say a net loss of -8 wins. 89 gets a playoff spot.


Also Moose losing 3 fWAR from last year to Cuthbert a replacement player mattered, that's basically all you need to explain the gap from 2015. Those 3, we make the playoffs.

New World Order 10-03-2016 08:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12465003)
Fangraphs lights up Hoz again. I doubt many will read the defensive explanations so no point even arguing it any more, but now his baserunning metrics have fallen near the bottom of MLB too:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-t...00-rbi-season/



In other news, how badly did we miss Cueto and Zo? Obv great players that outsized this market, we weren't going to keep them but....Cueto finished 4th in pitching fWAR at 5.5, Zo at 4.1. We got almost nothing from 2B and our rotation, so you can say a net loss of -8 wins. 89 gets a playoff spot.


Also Moose losing 3 fWAR from last year to Cuthbert a replacement player mattered, that's basically all you need to explain the gap from 2015. Those 3, we make the playoffs.

Didn't Dane badmouth the Cueto and Zobrist trades last year?

Genius

Prison Bitch 10-03-2016 08:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12465013)
Didn't Dane badmouth the Cueto and Zobrist trades last year?

Genius
Yeah and he wants 200M for the Hoz

lewdog 10-03-2016 08:36 PM
If you had to choose, do you root Jays or Orioles in the Wildcard game tomorrow?

New World Order 10-03-2016 08:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12465018)
If you had to choose, do you root Jays or Orioles in the Wildcard game tomorrow?

Hmm.

Jays are full of douches but O's have La Canfora.

I'll definitely pull for the Rangers this postseason tho

Discuss Thrower 10-03-2016 08:39 PM
Start praying for a 20 inning game that blows up their bullpens and burns starters.

lewdog 10-03-2016 08:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12465029)
Hmm.

Jays are full of douches but O's have La Canfora.

I'll definitely pull for the Rangers this postseason tho
Quote:
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12465036)
Start praying for a 20 inning game that blows up their bullpens and burns starters.
Answer the question!

And I can't root for Canada anything. Go Orioles.

New World Order 10-03-2016 08:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12465036)
Start praying for a 20 inning game that blows up their bullpens and burns starters.

There you go

cosmo20002 10-03-2016 09:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12465003)
Fangraphs lights up Hoz again. I doubt many will read the defensive explanations so no point even arguing it any more, but now his baserunning metrics have fallen near the bottom of MLB too:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-t...00-rbi-season/



In other news, how badly did we miss Cueto and Zo? Obv great players that outsized this market, we weren't going to keep them but....Cueto finished 4th in pitching fWAR at 5.5, Zo at 4.1. We got almost nothing from 2B and our rotation, so you can say a net loss of -8 wins. 89 gets a playoff spot.


Also Moose losing 3 fWAR from last year to Cuthbert a replacement player mattered, that's basically all you need to explain the gap from 2015. Those 3, we make the playoffs.
"As it turns out, his season put him on the short list for worst 100-RBI season ever. He wasn’t the worst, but the fact that he’s on the list is worrisome, and you really couldn’t blame the Royals if they non-tendered him this winter."

Yeah, right.:rolleyes:

New World Order 10-03-2016 09:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 12465153)
"As it turns out, his season put him on the short list for worst 100-RBI season ever. He wasn’t the worst, but the fact that he’s on the list is worrisome, and you really couldn’t blame the Royals if they non-tendered him this winter."

Yeah, right.:rolleyes:

Your obsession with PB is unhealthy.

Did he hurt your feelings?

cabletech94 10-03-2016 09:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12465018)
If you had to choose, do you root Jays or Orioles in the Wildcard game tomorrow?

hope for the giant meteorite, bro.

and i think if i'm reading this correctly, we were one jack soria from making the playoffs, correct.

Al Bundy 10-03-2016 09:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12465018)
If you had to choose, do you root Jays or Orioles in the Wildcard game tomorrow?
Sometimes dead is better.

Bowser 10-03-2016 09:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12465018)
If you had to choose, do you root Jays or Orioles in the Wildcard game tomorrow?
That's like asking me to root for either the Raiders or Broncos if they were playing each other. I always root for the giant sinkhole in that case.

CaliforniaChief 10-03-2016 09:47 PM
The only pleasure I get from watching tomorrow's game is knowing that the redemption both teams seek is due to the pain we inflicted on them.

cosmo20002 10-03-2016 09:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12465163)
Your obsession with PB is unhealthy.

Did he hurt your feelings?
MY obsession with HIM?
I responded to a story he provided and I didn't even make a personal comment to or about him. WTF is your problem, dipshit?

Pitt Gorilla 10-03-2016 10:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12465163)
Your obsession with PB is unhealthy.

Did he hurt your feelings?
He is literally responding to the piece (thus the quote). Are you really this dull?

duncan_idaho 10-04-2016 04:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12465003)
Fangraphs lights up Hoz again. I doubt many will read the defensive explanations so no point even arguing it any more, but now his baserunning metrics have fallen near the bottom of MLB too:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-t...00-rbi-season/



In other news, how badly did we miss Cueto and Zo? Obv great players that outsized this market, we weren't going to keep them but....Cueto finished 4th in pitching fWAR at 5.5, Zo at 4.1. We got almost nothing from 2B and our rotation, so you can say a net loss of -8 wins. 89 gets a playoff spot.


Also Moose losing 3 fWAR from last year to Cuthbert a replacement player mattered, that's basically all you need to explain the gap from 2015. Those 3, we make the playoffs.

Hosmer's defense definitely took a step back this year. I'm done talking about Fangraphs 1B metrics, though, so I'll leave that alone. Baseball Ref's figures judge Hosmer much less harshly on baserunning than Fangraphs, which is weird. I thought they lined up pretty well on those, in the past.

Cueto was a replacement level player for KC in 2015, whose best performances were in the playoffs. They survive without that if a few other guys - Volquez, most notably, but Chris Young, too - don't fall completely off the table.

Zobrist definitely was missed. His offensive prowess would have made a big difference for KC.




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Great Expectations 10-04-2016 07:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12465003)
Fangraphs lights up Hoz again. I doubt many will read the defensive explanations so no point even arguing it any more, but now his baserunning metrics have fallen near the bottom of MLB too:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-t...00-rbi-season/



In other news, how badly did we miss Cueto and Zo? Obv great players that outsized this market, we weren't going to keep them but....Cueto finished 4th in pitching fWAR at 5.5, Zo at 4.1. We got almost nothing from 2B and our rotation, so you can say a net loss of -8 wins. 89 gets a playoff spot.


Also Moose losing 3 fWAR from last year to Cuthbert a replacement player mattered, that's basically all you need to explain the gap from 2015. Those 3, we make the playoffs.
Soria's WAR in '16 was 0.5. How isn't that a negative number?

Prison Bitch 10-04-2016 07:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12465364)
Hosmer's defense definitely took a step back this year. I'm done talking about Fangraphs 1B metrics, though, so I'll leave that alone. Baseball Ref's figures judge Hosmer much less harshly on baserunning than Fangraphs, which is weird. I thought they lined up pretty well on those, in the past.

Cueto was a replacement level player for KC in 2015, whose best performances were in the playoffs. They survive without that if a few other guys - Volquez, most notably, but Chris Young, too - don't fall completely off the table.

Zobrist definitely was missed. His offensive prowess would have made a big difference for KC.

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Hosmer's whole every-other-year thing is really tiresome. He's had almost 6 full years to develop into a consistent player, not a young struggling guy. Beltran had a bad 2nd year then totally jetted upward, so have our other young players for the most part.


We hoped he'd be a Belt/Freeman, but he's not even close to them (4.1, 6.1 fWAR respectively). Eric is Yonder Alonso or Pedro Alvarez in 2016.


Good news: he's likely to do his good year in 2017. And it's his walk year. I expect 3-4 fWAR from him and a pat on the back as he leaves the door in December

Prison Bitch 10-04-2016 08:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 12465441)
Soria's WAR in '16 was 0.5. How isn't that a negative number?
I see 0.0

Titty Meat 10-04-2016 08:50 AM
Danny Duffy is the next Jose Rosado

KChiefs1 10-04-2016 08:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 12465199)
The only pleasure I get from watching tomorrow's game is knowing that the redemption both teams seek is due to the pain we inflicted on them.


Well put.




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mikeyis4dcats. 10-04-2016 09:35 AM
I'm rooting for MRSA....

BigCatDaddy 10-04-2016 11:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12465485)
I see 0.0
Over rated

WhawhaWhat 10-04-2016 11:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12465485)
I see 0.0
Nothing negative about that.

SAUTO 10-04-2016 11:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12465054)
Answer the question!

And I can't root for Canada anything. Go Orioles.
I hope for a meteor

duncan_idaho 10-04-2016 11:28 AM
The most frustrating thing about Hosmer is that his swing is so complicated, I don't think he will ever have a season where he avoids the month-long slump.

That's the main reason I've moved off team "keep hos."

He is going to have to make major adjustments when his bat speed starts to go, or he will drop off in a hurry.


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Chiefspants 10-04-2016 11:31 AM
I'm on Team Moose and Team Duffy at this point, with Dozier being moved in a package to hopefully net us a #3.

SPchief 10-04-2016 11:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12465755)
I'm on Team Moose and team Duffy at this point, with Dozier being moved in a package to hopefully net us a #3.
Wouldn't be shocked at all if GMDM signs Moose and Duffy while trading Wade this offseason

duncan_idaho 10-04-2016 12:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12465755)
I'm on Team Moose and team Duffy at this point, with Dozier being moved in a package to hopefully net us a #3.


Would be a great way to free up some salary in 2017... They project to make around $15 million combined in arbitration salary... Probably could cut that in half if you signed them to longer deals and loaded money in 2018 and beyond.


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mikeyis4dcats. 10-04-2016 12:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 12465797)
Wouldn't be shocked at all if GMDM signs Moose and Duffy while trading Wade this offseason
wish we'd have dealt wade and herrera before they started struggling.

whats the latest word on Holland?

Prison Bitch 10-04-2016 01:31 PM
Why would we ever move Moose or Duffy? 15M is peanuts for what they'll provide next year, and we are assuredly going for it next year.

Pitt Gorilla 10-04-2016 03:35 PM
I absolutely loathe the Bluejays, but LaConfora is somehow worse.

CaliforniaChief 10-04-2016 03:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 12466125)
I absolutely loathe the Bluejays, but LaConfora is somehow worse.
It really is like watching Satan's angels fight. They're both so utterly douchey.

lewdog 10-04-2016 03:44 PM
Gentlemen, this is an anti Canadian board. Let's keep it that way.

Shogun 10-04-2016 03:56 PM
I'm rooting for the Blue Jays. Buck Showalter and Manny Machado can suck a fat one. LaCanfora is a Rex Sox fan anyways, so its a win/win for that loser.

duncan_idaho 10-04-2016 04:13 PM
Orioles tonight - far less douchiness on that team.

Neither one of those teams is making it out of the DS, anyway.


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Chiefspants 10-04-2016 04:16 PM
Why are the Jays starting Stro tonight? I thought he had regressed quite a bit this year.

I'll never cheer for La Canfora's teams (O's & Red Sox), so go Jays I guess?

duncan_idaho 10-04-2016 04:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12466229)
Why are the Jays starting Stro tonight? I thought he had regressed quite a bit this year.

I'll never cheer for La Canfora's teams (O's & Red Sox), so go Jays I guess?

Because they had to burn Sanchez and Estrada on Saturday and Sunday to get into the playoffs.


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Chiefspants 10-04-2016 05:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12466238)
Because they had to burn Sanchez and Estrada on Saturday and Sunday to get into the playoffs.


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I realize the O's are stacked against lefties, but Happ was a stud this year.

lewdog 10-04-2016 05:18 PM
What do you call a baseball player that's a total pussy?




A Toronto Blue Jay.

duncan_idaho 10-04-2016 05:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12466354)
I realize the O's are stacked against lefties, but Happ was a stud this year.
Sorry, apparently Estrada pitched Friday, Happ Saturday, and Sanchez Sunday.

So all three are unavailable. Estrada would be going on three days rest.

Chiefspants 10-04-2016 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12466403)
Sorry, apparently Estrada pitched Friday, Happ Saturday, and Sanchez Sunday.

So all three are unavailable. Estrada would be going on three days rest.
That makes more sense. A friend of mine who follows the Jays thinks they should have gone with Liriano, but I'm guessing he'll be ready if Stro gets into early trouble.

lewdog 10-04-2016 06:18 PM
Sounds fairly loud there.

Probably piping sound in through the speakers like all dumb dome teams.

lewdog 10-04-2016 06:37 PM
Ears hit one out.

Shogun 10-04-2016 10:12 PM
I can sleep now. Buck Showalter has been embarassed. Goodnight.

Pitt Gorilla 10-04-2016 10:20 PM
La Confora is losing his mind. LMAO

SAUTO 10-04-2016 10:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 12467100)
La Confora is losing his mind. LMAO
Where?

suzzer99 10-04-2016 11:49 PM
https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora

Discuss Thrower 10-05-2016 09:23 AM
What a cocknozzle.

Prison Bitch 10-05-2016 10:48 AM
What a tool

Jason La Canfora – Verified account ‏@JasonLaCanfora

HEY CANADA YOU JUST GOT
#TRUMBONED
AND IT DIDNT FEEL GOOD
6:04 PM - 4 Oct 2016
69 RETWEETS163 LIKES


By the way was that KCConnection who threw that beer onto the field?

RockChalk 10-05-2016 10:52 AM
Is Toronto where all of the douchbag players go OR does Toronto breed douchey players?

I never really thought that Martin, Donaldson, or Tulo were that annoying when they were with their prior teams, but man, they all seem to be gigantic tools in Blue Jay uniforms. I've never seen a team assembled with so many crybabies before. Based on comments and interviews, it looks like Gibbons promotes that kind of behavior as he's always giving off the "it's not our fault, they started it" BS.

BigCatDaddy 10-05-2016 11:00 AM
Clubhouse culture is quite real.

sedated 10-05-2016 12:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 12467389)
Is Toronto where all of the douchbag players go OR does Toronto breed douchey players?
Maybe its just them trading for Donaldson, but I was thinking last night that their MO is to go for bad clubhouse guys with talent. I'm pretty sure that was the wrap on Donaldson, Tulo, and possibly Martin when they acquired them.

BigCatDaddy 10-05-2016 12:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12467385)
What a tool

Jason La Canfora – Verified account ‏@JasonLaCanfora

HEY CANADA YOU JUST GOT
#TRUMBONED
AND IT DIDNT FEEL GOOD
6:04 PM - 4 Oct 2016
69 RETWEETS163 LIKES


By the way was that KCConnection who threw that beer onto the field?
Did someone remind him that once again these Os arent Royal?

suzzer99 10-05-2016 12:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 12467389)
Is Toronto where all of the douchbag players go OR does Toronto breed douchey players?

I never really thought that Martin, Donaldson, or Tulo were that annoying when they were with their prior teams, but man, they all seem to be gigantic tools in Blue Jay uniforms. I've never seen a team assembled with so many crybabies before. Based on comments and interviews, it looks like Gibbons promotes that kind of behavior as he's always giving off the "it's not our fault, they started it" BS.
It's got to be those secret Canadian steroids they're all on. Brings out the douche.

WhawhaWhat 10-05-2016 01:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 12467100)
La Confora is losing his mind. LMAO
He has a Blue Jays logo on his twitter now. What a douche.

KChiefs1 10-05-2016 01:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12467541)
Did someone remind him that once again these Os arent Royal?


https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url...e_pid=12467063





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siberian khatru 10-05-2016 01:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 12467649)
He has a Blue Jays logo on his twitter now. What a douche.
I believe he lost a bet with another sportswriter/broadcaster

Discuss Thrower 10-05-2016 03:26 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals again have highest ratings in baseball for any regional network <a href="https://t.co/xz6MPTt1xO">https://t.co/xz6MPTt1xO</a></p>&mdash; Pete Grathoff (@pgrathoff) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgrathoff/status/783330807171522561">October 4, 2016</a></blockquote>
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cosmo20002 10-05-2016 04:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12467849)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals again have highest ratings in baseball for any regional network <a href="https://t.co/xz6MPTt1xO">https://t.co/xz6MPTt1xO</a></p>&mdash; Pete Grathoff (@pgrathoff) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgrathoff/status/783330807171522561">October 4, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Denver averaged 500 more fans per game. Not sure why we even bother having a team.
/PB

BWillie 10-05-2016 04:47 PM
The answer is to trade Hosmer for a 2B/OF + young up & coming SP. Cuthbert or Dozier can play 1B and likely have within .030 OPS of Hosmer's while perhaps providing better defense.

BWillie 10-05-2016 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 12467163)
This is not how you become popular and advance in the career of sports media, unless you are Skip Bayless.

duncan_idaho 10-05-2016 05:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 12467998)
The answer is to trade Hosmer for a 2B/OF + young up & coming SP. Cuthbert or Dozier can play 1B and likely have within .030 OPS of Hosmer's while perhaps providing better defense.


Situations in which the Royals trade Hosmer:

1) they decide to fire sale this winter rather than making another run

2) they are way out of the race in July 2017.

They're not going to trade any of the core guys, IMO. And he would be the last one they would move if they did.

The return would also be unlikely to be high enough. MLB ready guys would not be high profile, potential stars. Guys with star potential would have to be far from majors.


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ChiefsCountry 10-05-2016 06:18 PM
Andrew McCutchen is on the block it appears. He is signed through 2018. The only way I can think of for us would be swap of Cain for McCutchen.

suzzer99 10-05-2016 06:18 PM
Hosmer is pretty damn good in the playoffs. You just have to weather his slumps to get there.

Prison Bitch 10-05-2016 07:19 PM
They aren't making any major moves this offseason. They will give this group 1 last run for glory, as they should

Chiefspants 10-05-2016 07:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12468105)
Andrew McCutchen is on the block it appears. He is signed through 2018. The only way I can think of for us would be swap of Cain for McCutchen.
I have no idea why the Pirates would make this move.

ChiTown 10-05-2016 08:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12468221)
They aren't making any major moves this offseason. They will give this group 1 last run for glory, as they should
Have to add someone to the rotation and most likely another bat. Otherwise, that's a pretty empty "run"

BigCatDaddy 10-05-2016 08:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 12468288)
Have to add someone to the rotation and most likely another bat. Otherwise, that's a pretty empty "run"
Id guess 1 starter and 1 good reliever. Maybe Holland.

Prison Bitch 10-05-2016 08:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 12468288)
Have to add someone to the rotation and most likely another bat. Otherwise, that's a pretty empty "run"
Meh, Duffy Ventura Kennedy Vargas is fine

BigCatDaddy 10-05-2016 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12468306)
Meh, Duffy Ventura Kennedy Vargas is fine
They need a reliable 5th guy. Maybe not top of the rotation but more reliable than Gee and Young.

KChiefs1 10-05-2016 08:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12468311)
They need a reliable 5th guy. Maybe not top of the rotation but more reliable than Gee and Young.


Strahm?




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BigCatDaddy 10-05-2016 08:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12468320)
Strahm?




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Maybe but I think experienced guy would be preferred. Probably via trade.

ChiefsCountry 10-05-2016 08:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12468270)
I have no idea why the Pirates would make this move.
It wouldn't be straight up deal. Cain plus prospects. Cain's deal expires this year. Pirates then at trading deadline flip him for more prospects or let him walk and keep the first rounder.

KChiefs1 10-05-2016 08:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12468349)
Maybe but I think experienced guy would be preferred. Probably via trade.


I think that they'll be priming him as a starter in spring training.

Ned loves him.




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duncan_idaho 10-06-2016 06:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12468270)
I have no idea why the Pirates would make this move.

Because he's near the end of his deal and they won't be able to keep him next time, and they have great OF depth.

With Marte, Polanco, and Austin Meadows (who is ready for MLB), they'd still have an excellent and high upside Of.

McCutchen is the surplus piece they could most afford to move.

I actually think they'll hang on to him and try to make another run next year. Let's them season Meadows a little more and see if that rebuilt pitching staff can tick up in 2017.


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