Pretty obvious difference there.

KU isn't recruiting against MU in basketball. And even if MU wins, they probably STILL aren't recruiting against MU in basketball. Their fallback options would typically be our top guys. They just go after a different level of recruit.

Now Mizzou isn't at THAT level against KU in football, but right this very second, MU isn't really recruiting against KU in football. They're recruiting guys away from Georgia and Florida and Oklahoma. With the understanding that at the very least, they can round out the roster with guys they pull away from KU in the event they need to.

To quantify it: KU is an A school in basketball recruiting, MU is a C school. There's not a ton of risk for KU here - even if Mizzou beats them and has a couple good seasons to move up into B status, they won't pull KU down into B with them.

In football, MU is a B school and KU is a C school...probably. If they aren't, they'll likely get there soon enough. It's still a power 5 school in the 2nd most desirable conference in football, IMO. MU losing to KU would validate a surprise season for them and that's just not worth the squeeze long-term.

That's a lot of words to say where I was basically leading. It doesn't matter.

You're ignoring the reality on the ground.

These are 18 year old kids. And pretty damn convincing dudes sitting on their couch with them.

It's not to say that a loss turns everything on its head because it doesn't - MU would still have a MASSIVE facilities advantage in football. And yes, the prospect of the SEC is still very appealing.

But it pulls things tighter and there's just little benefit to it.

LMAO Chicken shit pussies.

I absolutely could matter in the margins.

It's not going to spring KU into the NCAA playoffs or turn Mizzou into Vandy. But it's going to be an arrow for KU in the KC area that they just don't have if they win. And Mizzou winning wouldn't give them an arrow they NEED because they're already ahead of KU in football recruiting.

So why put money on the table when there's no money to be made?

Hey - I'd rather play 'em. It's what I've been rooting for.

But from a strictly clinical perspective, there's more to be lost than gained.

So why bother?

It would have been a ratings monster. I've been rooting for it to happen.

Right, wrong, indifferent... I'm just here to be amused at how we can have the same conversation from 12+ years ago when Kansas BB was "scared".

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I just listened to this dude on 610 and I believe him 1000%. The thing that is annoying me about CDot on there is he keeps acting like it's because Mizzou is just scared. I don't believe that at all. There is just not much to gain from a win, but a loss could lead to something negative. If Mizzou would have said yeah we wanna play Kansas, then we would have gotten it cuz it would have gotten that bowl a ton of viewers.

Also he said we will play East Carolina in the Gasparilla Bowl.

Also KU fans strutting around in here can get ****ed cuz they pulled that shit for a decade in every sport.

Isn't that just another way of saying they're scared of losing to KU football?

Beat me to it

Georgia put Samford and Kent State on their schedule this year. They didn't put Clemson and Florida State on there. They could've put FAR tougher opponents on their schedule but they didn't.

Do you think they 'fear' those teams? No - but no win is taken as a given (as Georgia damn near found out vs. Mizzou). And if there's more to be lost than gained, why bother?

An acknowledgement that something might happen is a far cry from being scared that it will.

47th ranked class yikes