That same guy passed on Carr.

I told you when he was hired that Dorsey was the true prize of these two, and I'll be good and goddamned if that didn't turn out to be the case.

Hopefully Andy has learned to trust the superior mind over in personnel.

I believe he has, and that's how it should be.

Also,

Pawn and Clay are worth 5 million Tigger's, Sandy's, and Threedouchebags.

Three losers who continue to lose.

A bit long-winded. Not very funny by the end.

I rate this 2 out of 10 pooties

When you leave after Alex is gone, Chief's Planet is going to miss you like a Ghost Pepper enema.

None of them are Chiefs fans or any other team. They are all fans of just players, in this case - Alex Smith. They treat it like a religion with Alex as their deity.

Kap isn't elsewhere because he's not good enough. The political stuff is crap.

Maybe I should make one for you about reading fail...

Did you READ what baby lee wrote? Did you read my response? Let me give you a hint....It wasn't about math...it wasn't about the word majority....theres nothing there about me defending Cassel...

please go back and read it....I mean surely there has to be some examples of me licking cassel's nuts right?? YEARS of me doing this and posting pics about it...

At least be honest and give me a little credit....the false narrative put forth does not hold up when you actually look at my posts.....does it? I mean you SEARCHED and thats the best you came up with? From me defending cassel ANYTIME someone badmouthed him for YEARS?

I disagree. He's a solid backup QB like Foles and can win you those easy-medium games when the starter goes down (in the right system). He has too much baggage and coaches don't want the distraction

I was more referencing the reerun pics than the Cassel ball washing.

Being 100% honest as a person who has seen their careers, the only season Alex has looked more capable is 2015. Some of Alexs numbers look good because of the abnormal amount of short throws, but i can guarantee you CK7 wins the Pitt playoff game. He looked better this season with the worst team in football if you watched instead of reading stats.

Just for the issue of copyright pedigree

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Well, this thread sure got fun this morning. Internet and football fandom are a serious thing.

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^ hey, he did post Jennifer Aniston looking sexy. She can Spanky Cheeks me any day.

I logged on and read "Alex Smith Traded" and got extremely excited.


But no, it's this old ****ing thread.

This is a brief back and forth between the two, still get a good laugh post # 141 http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...300729&page=10

When you reveal yourself to be a two-faced, narcissistic **** whose only purpose in being here is to troll Chiefs fans with your pathetic worship of a talentless, washed-up, game-mismanaging has-been, don't be surprised when your vagina gets mercilessly pounded by an Army of Mahomies who've had just about enough of your bullshit.

Bitch.

ROFL

I believe I have pissed myself.

Having no problem with having my vag pounded. Internet orgies are a blast. Just a shame that your shriveled, 2 incher can't be felt, but the humping efforts are top-notch, so you get a pat on the head for that much, puddin'.

... but seriously, you guys and gals complain all the time about some of us being here... yet you secretly love it. If you didn't, you'd stop quoting us or even mentioning us amongst yourselves.

IF the starting QB leaves... AND IF his fake KC fans actually leave.. you will be very sad and bored. If you really wanted to lessen or eliminate the thoughts and presence of us terrible Smith-only fans, you'd just pussy out with putting us on your iggy list... and avoid mentioning us every hour or every day. Maybe.. maaaaaayyyyybe that would truly get you what you claim to wish for.

Um, no.

We found PLENTY to talk about long before Alex and his gaggle of discount jizz-moppers came in to our lives.
The Chiefs are building its fan base toward a unified nirvana after decades of infighting and strife as a result of poor, archaic decisions by the organization.
You represent the past, and one of many of those piss-poor decisions. You came to the party with a bag of dog shit, and are now being escorted out of the room by Rocco. Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

How many years did the board flourish pre ASS11?

All the 9er trolls having meltdowns.

Nah, it's a mixture of both. If he hasn't flared up controversy around the country, some team out there would sign him at his current talent level.

On the other side, if he was playing like Tom Brady, somebody would sign him regardless of his comments.

The fact is, he's not good enough to be worth the headache that comes with his controversy.

You really think CP needs those guys? CP has been an epic place for a long time. In fact this current era might be the least entertaining. CP doesn't need these 49er fans. But I do agree with you that for those that really want a poster gone, quoting and talking about them is literally the worst thing to do.

Spot on common sense take.

Just a case of off field negatives outweighing on field positives.

Football conversation will be improved x1000 around here when Smith is cut and his douchelords are kicked off the reservation.

I don't think that.

I think that trying to get by with other team's garbage at QB, with a guy who is "good enough" and won't mess up, is ridiculous. It's a part the Chiefs have been going down for 35 years prior to this season, and it killed my ability to enjoy any regular season success.

I think you misread my statement. I said I was fed up with "not sucking" - not that I was "not wanting to suck." Not sucking = investing in resources that ensure the team is good to be around the playoff/wildcard picture (and maybe even a division champ when the schedule breaks right).

I'm fed up with being happy averaging a 10.5-5.5 record and making the wildcard round.

I'll never agree respectability was a worthy goal with the new regime. Tear it down and start trying to build it back up in a way that can win the Super Bowl from Day 1, rather than just getting around to it Year 5.

All Alex Smith really did was waste four more years of Chiefs fans' time.

So, what would you have done differently? Only guy I can think of that we outright missed on would be Carr.

Its not like the current regime was unwilling to draft 1st round QBs either. We were pretty strongly linked to both Manziel and Lynch if I'm remembering things correctly.

It's glorious.

And I'm with Duncan. Don't any of you ****ers DARE come walking up to my grille and expect some lame-assed "Smith gratitude", because you aren't getting it.
**** Smith, **** you if you support Smith, and don't let the door hit you in your Smithian ass.

It's a blemish on Andy for sticking with this turd for as long as he did, but at least he has redeemed himself. Those of you who were here before the Alexsexuals showed up would do well to follow Andy's example.

I'm not pushing the throwing of Mahomes in to the fire as I understand full well what his development means to the overall outcome that we are expecting. That said, the kid can't start soon enough. The sooner the stink of recycled QB garbages and their garbagey transplant fans are purged with fire, the better.

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glad you dumbshits enjoy your entry level jobs while pretending to be NFL capabile GMs.

History has proven you cucks dumb as ****ing rocks.

You guys are the Eric Warfield of posters as many times as you've been burnt.

Aww honey, is you having the Smith sadness? Don't worry sweetums, he'll find another job.
Get happy! Better days ahead now that the Chiefs have acknowledged the tried and perfected ways of the CP Armchair GM/Draftubation Nation!

First Round QB = 'Ships!

I thought Sandy would just fade off when PMII becomes the starter, I'm slightly surprised she would breakdown this quick

Nah, her girlish little heart just can't take the pain of two rejections in a row

He'll be on the PMII bandwagon soon enough, it's a new landscape True Fans will adapt when Mahomes plays as a 1st stringer

Here comes a barely human monkey flinging turds in the thread...

why?

Who klnows...

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ROFLROFLROFL

Threedouchebags = PWND.

I'm so happy that Pawn is back and that all of Chiefs Nation will finally get to enjoy the fruits of legitimate Quarterbacking.

Good times!

We have a lot of posters on here who want to bench or cut Alex Smith. I'd say around 95% of these posters are the same posters who also wanted the Chiefs to draft Geno Smith with the #1 pick in 2013.

Yeah, these are the guys I am going to listen to when they give their expert opinions on Alex Smith. Lol!

You can plug your ears and 'not listen' to 'opinion' about Smith....but everything that has been said about him (by those who knew him as a QB) since the day we got him has basically come true.....

Game manager...decent QB but not good enough to go deep in playoffs...

You plugging your ears with tampons won't change those simple facts...

LOL!

Good for you, PA! Glad you finally saw the light.

The Trufus Dawes Tard Brigade have nothing left to cling to, so they are content to devise pitiful fabrications in order to make themselves seem relevant when the truth is that the Chiefs have left them behind and have CLEARLY jumped on board the QB1 Death Cult Express.

Final Score?

QB1DC: SS Shock Troops
Alexsexual True Fan: Warsaw Ghetto

Theres probably like 3 or 4 MAYBE who would bench or cut Alex Smith now...The vast majority of even people who HATE smith (like me) realize we shouldnt bench or cut him till after at least one season... ANd I was not a Geno SMith fanboi by the way...so your statistics are shit...and you are a dishonest person.

It was a joke. Lighten up people.

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I doubt he knows what a football looks like. Carr was it. There were a TON of busts CP wanted that are pure shit. To be honest, it worked perfectly. We got a Franchise stud waiting to take over a loaded team

A whole bunch of Geno Smith lovers wanted Patrick Mahomes.

Dorsey and Reid both want Patrick Mahomes.

Anti-Geno fans have been saying for years, "I'm so glad Reid and Smith are making the decisions and not you! Can't trust Geno fans!"

You can't have ****ing both, asshole. Which one is it? Are Geno fans ALWAYS WRONG, or do you no longer trust Reid and Dorsey just because you love a piece of shit like Alex Smith?

Sig-worthy.

The Process Babies simply can not stomach how Dorsey and the Chiefs body-slammed their White Knight as well as their security blanket of tradition.
To have their last remnant of the Dilfer Philosophy crushed and swept away like so much refuse is a bitter pill to swallow.
To see their trusted GM and Head Coach fall in line with the proven philosophy of the QB1 Death Cult is just too much for their tender little anuses to handle.

Geno Smith had a lot of talent. Had he ended up in a different more stable locker room/coaching staff than with the Jets, who knows how he would have done?

Just because someone busts in 1 situation, doesn't mean he was destined to bust in ALL scenarios.

You think Mahomes is going to be a better player in the end with the Chiefs, or would he have the same results if he were draft by the Browns?

I wasn't against the Alex decision at first, I was actually happy and hopeful when it happened. I simply think the experiment went on for way too long after we figured out he was total ass. We all also knew time wasn't going to heal that decision and not drafting QBs was terribad.

And BTW, Alex is still our QB, all that's happened is we've drafted hope. And, unless Mahomes goes all Zach Prescott on the NFL, let's hope they maneuver as needed to take Drew Lock when he enters the draft.

But one has to wonder how many of "us" (you included) would have had a problem matching the Chief's GMs record(s) of no SB appearances in 48 years? With no way to prove it, you can argue that they've helped to provided a better winning percentage for the team in each of those 48 years, but I'd argue that we could all have at least matched helping the team to no SB appearances for 48 years.

Oh God. Some people are still trying to justify the Geno Smith #1 logic. LOL!

No need to justify a sound argument.

And in the end, we won.

So there's that.

Happy B-day Alex Smith.

I've said it several times. It's the same basic premise now as it was in 2013:

Pick up a cheaper cast-off from another team (hell, even Chase Daniel) and lived with the slightly lower floor for a few seasons while they tried to find QB1. The Chiefs spent significant draft capital and significant salary space on Smith; if they spend half as much on a Carson Palmer or Chase Daniel or Ryan Fitzpatrick or Matt Moore, the team around the QB could have been improved even more.

The highlight of the Alex Smith era is the bombing of Houston in the playoffs, but literally any QB could have done that. The Chiefs could have handily won that game with the QB spiking the ball on every single play.

There have been some flashes here and there of the ability Andy Reid saw - the San Diego game last year, a half here and there, 3-4 games down the stretch in 2013 - but nothing consistent.

If they don't have Alex Smith on board, the Chiefs are more aggressive in pursuing Carr or Lynch or Bridgewater, etc. Maybe we still end up where we are now. No way to know.

^This.

Those who were pro-Geno at the time have stood by their reasoning without applying hindsight to it. In hindsight, yeah, he busted out. But sitting for 2-3 years while being tutored by Andy Reid, it might be an entirely different situation (and it is reasonable to suggest so).

But if you want to talk about liking him in 2013... at the time people were saying to pick him No. 1 overall, he was projected to go in the top 5-6. That had changed by the time of the draft, when it looked like he would be available at 2-1, and those of us who believed he had the raw tools to be an effective starter, with top 10-15 NFL QB potential, were still on board with drafting him at that lower cost.

Being wrong about a QB doesn't mean your reasoning behind liking that QB as a prospect is wrong. It's more nuanced than that.

Bingo. Exactly. Spot on. This is exactly why I roll my eyes every time I read the whole "we've had no other better options other than Carr since we acquired Alex." There is absolutely no way of knowing that and it's a straight up premature statement to make with these rookie QB's who have come and gone since we acquired him. Alex Smith was absolutely atrocious his first 6 seasons... before he started this conservative, "don't throw interceptions" kick he is still on. Geno is entering his 5th season.

Alex after his first 4 seasons in the NFL: 19 TD's, 31 INT's

Geno after his first 4 seasons in the NFL: 28 TD's, 36 INT's

Let's not act like the book is absolutely closed on Geno quite yet, for it wasn't closed on Alex at that stage in his career.

Clark Hunt needed to put butts in the seats in 2013 (following the blackouts of 2012). Alex Smith was the biggest name that was available at that time. Alex was a former first overall pick. He was on a 1.5 year stretch of playing conservatively and not throwing INT's...which fortunately for him, San Francisco's DEF was good enough during that time to win games with a QB who played that way. And he received a lot of attention from the media after controversially being benched for Kaepernick. He was the hottest available name. And mission accomplished. Butts filled the seats.

Who knows who else we could have done who with since acquiring Alex.

Welp, I can only speak for myself..

But I"m of the opinion that once the kid can call plays and knows the playbook, they should put him out there.

Once he has a level of comfort with the offense, waiting only postpones his development and the growing pains that will come with it.

Geno Smith is a sweater vest wearing pussy. Please find something else to discuss in relationship to the Chiefs. Please.

You really wanna argue about the word now? You aee saying basically the same thing as me. You wouldnt put him in now, nor would 99% of us. That contrasts with what the other dipshit said...that everyone was clamoring to bench Alex.

I dont disagree with starting Mahomes when he is ready but by the estimations of those more in tbe know than me...that time isnt now, and its probably not this season. No one sane is suggesting to cut alex smith right now.

People were wrong about Geno. Some on either "side" will be wrong about Mahomes' ceiling.. and some justifiably have yet to make up their minds. Others were wrong that Alex would be enough to get KC a SB, so far. Some have fairly sound reasoning for why he never can.

Who gives a ****? What's done is done.. and I for one am hoping that either of these QBs can step up and win KC a SB or three.

All of the forum right or wrong posturing is fun and games that are here to spice up forum talk. That too.. is what it is.. and serves its purpose, but isn't going to be taken too seriously.

You'd have a valid argument with this if the Chiefs passed on Andrew Luck to draft Eric Fisher. They didn't. The only QB they passed on that has been worth a shit was Derek Carr, and while that's a significant mistake, it's not a death sentence.

The team wasn't going from 2-14 to Super Bowl contender over night. You're so tired of winning 10 games a year when the Chiefs from 2000-2013 when Dorsey/Reid came, had 10 wins 3 times.

Alex Smith wasted time, but you were firmly happy hitching your wagon to Geno Smith, who would have wasted a similar amount of time and this end result would still be the same. The Chiefs finally get their young potential franchise QB, which this regime was always going to get when they found the prospect they loved.

Don't think I could agree more with this post.

You never responded to my post.

Which is it, bub? Are Geno Smith fans ALWAYS wrong, or are you smarter than Dorsey and Reid just because Geno Smith fans love Patrick Mahomes?

Logically you can't have both.

Fans of the Kansas city chiefs.....

Obviously not Alex smith bandwagon jumpers who suck trucker dick to get from town to town

In NBA terms rooting for the Chiefs with Ass11 would be like rooting for any other team besides the Warriors, Cavs, and maybe Spurs. I guess you could try to make it fun and be happy with some wins but you know the ending the movie already.

Read it again.. and then argue with me that a legit fan won't hope that whatever QB's name on the back of a jersey is the answer as the SB winner for their team.

Let me know if I'm going too fast for you.

You're trying to construct a quandary where there isn't one.

If one side thinks any and every QB is desirable, and the other side thinks that the QB the Dorsey actually acquires is desirable, then when Dorsey selected Mahomes the Vin diagrams overlapped.

It's like if a prospector is panning for gold, so he gathers up every single rock in the American West. It's not impossible for there to be a nugget somewhere in the pile, but the enterprise was a lot of wasted effort without much progress due to their activities. Much better to have someone who actually knows how to differentiate gold from granite conduct the search.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I trust Dorsey and Reid when it comes to QBs over the Geno Smith lovers who constantly bash Alex Smith. Reid and Dorsey have been consistent in their support for Alex Smith so I am too.

That's it. Let's not make this more complicated than it needs to be.

Geno fans don't think this. I didn't like Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman, Brandon Weeden, Blaine Gabbert, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, and numerous other QBs.

Did you or did you not write this post?

You're basically saying, "This one opinion this group of people had was wrong, therefore other opinions these people have are also wrong!"

And what the **** is this "A lot of posters want to bench or cut Alex Smith" bullshit? When? As soon as Mahomes is ready to play? Absolutely. This season? Not very ****ing many. ZERO of them want to rush Mahomes onto the field.

Youre not a fan of this football team. You are in love with one player and jumped ship to follow your lover. You will probably do so again when ALex leaves here...

Is that too fast for YOU?

Wasn't the point, but it's no surprise the point eluded you.

We have different definitions of what a fan is. I accept both of the following. You do not.

I believe any person that puts one team's success above all others is a fan of that team. Even if that person switches teams every damn year... so long as he wants that team to win... derives enjoyment and excitement from that team's success above all others.. he or she is indeed a fan of that team.

You believe any person that stays with a team.. for life.. no matter what.. is the only real definition of a team fan.

To each his own. thanks above for giving man free will. :)

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The difference is, with Alex Smith we KNEW we were going to be wasting our time.

It also clearly wasn't going to win the Super Bowl with Alex Smith. He had every advantage possible in 11 and couldn't get it done.

The combo of that obvious likely outcome and the fact the Chiefs had been hammering the same ****ing door for
30 years is what made it so frustrating.

At least if they had taken a shot in 13 with Gene, or the year after with Bridgewater or Carr, etc. there would have been some unknown.


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Every advantage possible, hmmmm.

- yr 1 scheme, where their best weapon stated that he was so confused by the playbook, he wanted to quit. Coming right out of a coaching lockout in the offseason prior.

- a very poor pass pro OL

- would be a stretch to even call the WR corps above average.

Can everyone at least agree it is a good thing this is the last season we are subjected to ASS11?

Dont give me the 2 year shit either. Mahomes is the guy next year.

All Chiefs fans are in agreement on this issue.

I don't look at it like a waste of time at all, actually. We went from the THE WORST franchise in the league - including the Browns - to being a perennial doubt digit wins playoff team. I think stability counts for a lot in the NFL, and we finally have it.

Smith was a stabilizing presence. He has had some very good moments in KC. While he simply is not good enough to get you over the hump in the playoffs, I will not complain about any situation that lands us a first round bye followed by a first round QB four months later.

It would have been better to have found our QB last year, I think, so as to walk on Smith now. I just don't hate him - can't, really - because I am too giddy about Mahomes.

Hell yes.

True. One is a lifelong fan...one is a bandwagon fan. I can NOT believe I agreed with Sandy Vag.....

I support anything Reid and Dorsey do when it comes to the QB position. I believe in them. If they decide to start Patrick next year then I'm fine with it. If they decide to wait longer I'm fine with that too. If they decide to start him sooner that is fine too.

I'm not going to lose any sleep if Alex Smith is our QB for another year or two. He's not that bad despite what many of you QB gurus claim. If he was Reid wouldn't have traded for him in the first place.

Plenty of other areas for this team to improve other than the QB position to get us over that hump and into the SB. Despite what many of you on here may think, football isn't an individual sport, it's a team game.

People say exactly the same thing about you on the niners boards, so you come here and join the anti-smith mob as a way of respite. You are so pathetic.

I think nomadic is far more accurate than bandwagon.. since I went from a SB contending team.. to a 2-14 worst of the worst, lowest of the lowest team.

Nomadic, yes.

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