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Direckshun 02-08-2023 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16793359)
Wouldn't be the worst idea.

Here's my logic.

You win Super Bowls when you have an elite QB and a killer pass rush.

Karlaftis is ready to go for double digit sacks. Jones is likely to be extended if you ask me.

The Chiefs need one more bookend and he and Karlaftis will torture tackles for a decade.

That bookend does not exist in free agency, really. The bookend you need is probably in Round 1 of the NFL Draft. (And truth be told, he's probably at West Point.)

You're going to need that guy to have the best coaching available. He's going to get it with Joe Cullen, but Frank Clark plays an unmistakable part of that. Clark's tutelage has helped maximize Mike Danna beyond all of our expectations, and it's boosted Karlaftis' development.

I think Clark's play in the postseason is really important, but the thing that's completely irreplaceable is how valuable he is in bringing up young guys. He may be a difficult human being, but he's beloved in that locker room and they completely feed off his energy. When Clark is popping, the entire DL plays incredibly loose.

jerryaldini 02-08-2023 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16793658)
That is terrible.

What did you expect for 14.99?

trndobrd 02-08-2023 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16786506)
he's not getting WPMOTY after damar

and i have a weird feeling kelce or pacheco or chris get SB MVP

the chiefs defense is on a ****ing roll and a 6-1 n00b ain't ready

Pacheco as SB MVP would only happen if the Chiefs get up by a couple scores in the 1st quarter forcing the Eagles to abandon the ground game, Clark gets the record for most playoff sacks, and Pacheco gets 150 yards on the ground behind the Oline crushing souls for the entire 2nd half.

ThyKingdomCome15 02-08-2023 09:05 PM

Playoff Frank

ThyKingdomCome15 02-08-2023 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16793667)
Here's my logic.

You win Super Bowls when you have an elite QB and a killer pass rush.

Karlaftis is ready to go for double digit sacks. Jones is likely to be extended if you ask me.

The Chiefs need one more bookend and he and Karlaftis will torture tackles for a decade.

That bookend does not exist in free agency, really. The bookend you need is probably in Round 1 of the NFL Draft. (And truth be told, he's probably at West Point.)

You're going to need that guy to have the best coaching available. He's going to get it with Joe Cullen, but Frank Clark plays an unmistakable part of that. Clark's tutelage has helped maximize Mike Danna beyond all of our expectations, and it's boosted Karlaftis' development.

I think Clark's play in the postseason is really important, but the thing that's completely irreplaceable is how valuable he is in bringing up young guys. He may be a difficult human being, but he's beloved in that locker room and they completely feed off his energy. When Clark is popping, the entire DL plays incredibly loose.

That's a lot of faith in George.

Pitt Gorilla 02-08-2023 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16793667)
Here's my logic.

You win Super Bowls when you have an elite QB and a killer pass rush.

Karlaftis is ready to go for double digit sacks. Jones is likely to be extended if you ask me.

The Chiefs need one more bookend and he and Karlaftis will torture tackles for a decade.

That bookend does not exist in free agency, really. The bookend you need is probably in Round 1 of the NFL Draft. (And truth be told, he's probably at West Point.)

You're going to need that guy to have the best coaching available. He's going to get it with Joe Cullen, but Frank Clark plays an unmistakable part of that. Clark's tutelage has helped maximize Mike Danna beyond all of our expectations, and it's boosted Karlaftis' development.

I think Clark's play in the postseason is really important, but the thing that's completely irreplaceable is how valuable he is in bringing up young guys. He may be a difficult human being, but he's beloved in that locker room and they completely feed off his energy. When Clark is popping, the entire DL plays incredibly loose.

Weren't folks recently poking fun at the idea of Frank mentoring the young Des?

DJ's left nut 02-08-2023 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16794508)
Weren't folks recently poking fun at the idea of Frank mentoring the young Des?

Frank working with George in camp:

https://media.tenor.com/cSay-_yeYKcA...urn-around.gif

BossChief 02-08-2023 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16794513)

The time I was there, Frank was working with George specifically on timing the snap and reaching when he’s close to making the play and those specific learned skills paid dividends.

Direckshun 02-09-2023 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16794505)
That's a lot of faith in George.

Watch the tape.

There's nothing Karlaftis is doing the past two months of this season that he can't replicate for the totality of the 2023 season.

Karlaftis has been applying pressure all season, but he figured out how to convert that to sacks the final third of the season. He's turning corners sharper, his countermoves are more effective at keeping himself in the play.

He was already a readymade NFL player when we drafted him, but Karlaftis' passrush is here. It has arrived.

His run defense is not yet where it needs to be, but with his size and the coaching he's getting, it will be.

Direckshun 02-09-2023 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16794508)
Weren't folks recently poking fun at the idea of Frank mentoring the young Des?

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16794532)
The time I was there, Frank was working with George specifically on timing the snap and reaching when he’s close to making the play and those specific learned skills paid dividends.

I don't know who "folks" are. But Clark has been reported every single season he's been here as working technique with younger players.

To say nothing of the fact that, despite the fact that he's a difficult human being, he's beloved in the locker room. He's been a headache for the team off the field, but he hasn't brought any of it into the locker room like Mathieu did with the contract situation.

And of course, as I said before and as we've all seen, once Clark heats up a bit in the game the entire DL responds.

TwistedChief 02-09-2023 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16794513)

Karlaftis did use the spin move to sack Burrow, so there's that...

O.city 02-09-2023 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16793667)
Here's my logic.

You win Super Bowls when you have an elite QB and a killer pass rush.

Karlaftis is ready to go for double digit sacks. Jones is likely to be extended if you ask me.

The Chiefs need one more bookend and he and Karlaftis will torture tackles for a decade.

That bookend does not exist in free agency, really. The bookend you need is probably in Round 1 of the NFL Draft. (And truth be told, he's probably at West Point.)

You're going to need that guy to have the best coaching available. He's going to get it with Joe Cullen, but Frank Clark plays an unmistakable part of that. Clark's tutelage has helped maximize Mike Danna beyond all of our expectations, and it's boosted Karlaftis' development.

I think Clark's play in the postseason is really important, but the thing that's completely irreplaceable is how valuable he is in bringing up young guys. He may be a difficult human being, but he's beloved in that locker room and they completely feed off his energy. When Clark is popping, the entire DL plays incredibly loose.

I'm talking about loading up on the DL, not retaining Clark.

Hammock Parties 02-09-2023 12:40 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How is PLAYOFF Frank Clark different? - From the man himself <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealFrankC_</a> a very thoughtful &amp; insightful answer from the shark �� Thanks for the time today, Frank! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/xz8BmRIE1W">pic.twitter.com/xz8BmRIE1W</a></p>&mdash; Starcade Media (@StarcadeMediaKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/StarcadeMediaKC/status/1623750045731520513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Megatron96 02-09-2023 12:53 PM

Watching highlights from some of the PHI games this season, it occurred to me that Frank might be critical to KC winning the SB, but not necessarily by sacking Hurts. Though I fully believe he’ll somehow get a pair of them. 1.5 for Frank is my bet.

But his recognition skills could be a key deciding factor in this game, with PHI running so much option/RPO/etc. Among our EDGEs, only Carlos is as quick to diagnose who has the ball, but Frank has the edge in quickness and speed.

Not saying he’s a wizard at this, but he’s definitely an entire step above everyone else on the DL. And not getting duped every other snap is going to be crucial for the defense.

Hammock Parties 02-09-2023 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16795477)
Watching highlights fr M some of the PHI games this season, it occurred to me that Frank might be critical to KC winning the SB, but not necessarily by sacking Hurts. Though I fully believe he’ll somehow get a pair of them. 1.5 for Frank is my bet.

But his recognition skills could be a key deciding factor in this game, with PHI running so much option/RPO/etc. Among our EDGEs, only Carlos is as quick to diagnose who has the ball, but Frank has the edge in quickness and speed.

Not saying he’s a wizard at this, but he’s definitely an entire step above everyone else on the DL. And not getting duped every other snap is going to be crucial for the defense.

Expect to see a LOT of Clark in a two-point stance.


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