I don't hate Smith either. How interested would you be if you took a beautiful girl on a date, and were likely to spend a hundred bucks on the date, but knew you weren't going to get any because she isn't into dudes.

What? You bolded the word 'now' in YOUR post. I didn't do that.

Settle down angry pants. I was just trying to talk to you, not argue with you.

I think Alex Smith dickrider is more accurate.

Fan is short for 'fanatic'.

Sandy is a fan of Alex Smith, not the Chiefs.

At best he's a chiefs follower due to his fandom of Alex Smith.

He is not of our tribe though.

You guys all ****ing suck.

Because I want the QB of your favorite team to succeed. Yes, I can see where that would really piss you off.

They are weird and creepy

Because you're a fan of a player who goes to a fan board to defend your love from all of the negative shit said about him.

This is Alex Smith farewell tour he better make the best of it he is gone in 18.

He is a marginal player on the decline and also worried about getting injured. Should be an epic turd this year for ASS11.

I came to this fan board because I was still interested in following Smith's career. The kid was thrown to the wolves, paid a very heavy price, and always took the high road in dealing with it. ALWAYS. I appreciated that as a fan of the team, and as such have continued to root for his success.

That's pretty much it. I don't think he's the greatest of all time, I don't think he's flawless or even close to being flawless... but I also don't think he deserves the level of hate that comes his way. I think he works hard and does his best to win in the way that has proven effective for him, at this level.

I hope he does it this last year with the Chiefs. I don't see him having much of a chance if he starts over again next year with another troubled team.

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"nomadic" fan bahahahahahahahahahahaa

Holy shit that is hilarious

Talk about a euphemism.... jesus christ..

Please explain the difference between a bandwagoneer and a nomad....LOL

Here dude I got you a jersey for when alex smith leaves the Chiefs for a new team....I know its not a QB number but:

1) you can pretend youre not a bandwagon smith homo

2) most teams have an 84 WR on it so youll be ready to be a 'nomad fan' when you get there

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Nomadic fans ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

I forget. Did CP lose any Chiefs fans to Dolphin boards when the team traded Trent Green?

I'm going to assume that didn't happen because it would be weird and creepy, but you never know.

Beside his brother-in-law?

Does what exactly?

What? NewChief still posts here

I was a HUGE Barry Sanders fan... and if he were to have ever been traded, I would have rooted for him on whatever team he went to.

Now, that was Barry effing Sanders. Joe Montana? Fine. Brett Favre? Fine. Did Emmitt Smith fans become Cardinal fans for awhile? Most likely.

Why anyone would want to follow Alex "Mirage" Smith anywhere and consistently try and justify to others how "good" he is makes me wonder WTF.

Great post, man. :thumb:

Have to wonder, even if they liked Alex Smith.. would the xenophobia still exist?

( seems the love for the new Mahomes fans that just came over here have answered this )

:shrug:

You could have swapped teams every year for a random player, and not one.. not 1 shit would be given.

Why? because you suck? no.

Because that was your choice, you have your reasons, and it's not something that I'd bother to judge you for.

Continuing to like your college team in addition to the new pro team of your former QB = switching your pro team allegiance because hunky dopey pussy QB lost his job

Actually yes,, that would make him suck a huge fat cock...

And most people would mock and ridicule him...

But he doesn't do that because he has a ballsack and pride.

I don't even think that NewChief went to a Dolphins board. Dude still posts in the video game threads and the fitness threads.

The niners didn't lose me as a fan. I'm still a fan - and excited by the direction of the "new" team. I just also wish to see Smith win the whole damned thing - with the Chiefs? - fine by me.

I always felt that Alex was a decent QB....with a suspect arm. BUT I also(against most of this board) believed him to be the best available for the position. Did Dorsey miss a few Diamonds in the rough? Sure, but he felt that Smith was the best bet...til now. I also Hope Alex Smith has a lights out year....but really look forward to next year. And you Smith ball huggers....I really ain't that mad at ya.

You keep knocking our 2-14 2012 team that you know NOTHING about.

You know how much defensive potential was on that 2-14 team? Plus Charles (you haven't actually seen Charles the way we have...you have only caught a glimpse of him). We had 6 pro bowlers on that lowly 2-14 team...Colquitt, DJ, Hali, Houston, Charles and Berry...plus we had Poe who beasted as a rookie. It was freaking frustrating...and the way things unraveled that season was straight-up weird...like, you could make a 30 for 30 about that season called "Save Our Chiefs" based on that season. We tied the Cardinals that season for most INT's thrown. We tied the 1929 Buffalo Bisons for longest streak without a lead. We flew banners that begged Hunt to bench Cassel and fire Pioli. We had that controversy with that weirdo OT, Eric Winston calling the Chiefs fans out in an interview for 70,000 of us allegedly cheering when Cassel got hurt in a game...a claim that was exaggerated beyond belief. We had a guy kill his girlfriend before killing himself in front of our egomaniacal GM and our inept HC...who were STILL fired a couple months following that, despite witnessing/enduring that trauma. We had Brian ****ing Daboll as our OC... he was terrible. Not bullshitting you. That season was weird.

Remember when the 2011 Packers made that run at chasing the 1972 Dolphins record of being the only team to go undefeated and and win the Super Bowl (everyone thought they were going to do it that year)? Yeah, the Chiefs squashed their hopes of accomplishing that feat...in WEEK 15! That ended a 19 game winning streak that the Packers were riding dating back to the prior year...the year they won the SB. The reason we beat them was because we started Kyle Orton at QB, who played better than any Chiefs QB I've seen play for them since Trent Green.... Basically that same 2011 Chiefs team that defeated the Packers was the same lowly 2-14 team you keep referring to as being the "lowest of the low," which again, you know nothing about that team....biggest difference was we didn't have Orton in 2012...who only started 3 games for us to begin with.

Our coaching staff was so inept that year that following a game where Jamaal was only given 5 carries, our HC, Romeo Crennel was asked why he was given so many few carries in the post-game interview. He responded with, "now that, I'm not exactly sure."

You think we are tough on Smith? Yeah, you are not wrong about that...and our frustration with him is ****ing legit. The guy is a scared pussy that makes scoring offensive points seem like a rarity. There has been so much treading water at QB with some absolute elite players on our team for years. Tons of built up frustration because of that. However, despite our bickering about Smith, you haven't seen shit compared to the hate we had for Cassel (a guy who outplayed Smith in a 2010 Chiefs vs 49ers game). All Smith has had to do is not throw INT's and not be Matt freaking Cassel...mission accomplished...whooptie-doo!

You do realize Cassel never started a game in college, right? And that guy was hand-picked as our franchise QB in 2009 by our douchebag GM who was a Patriot retread, just like Cassel.

The turnaround in 2013 wasn't as much Smith being a good QB (he isn't) as it was just Smith not being Cassel...that, along with coaching and management of the team. The 2012 Chiefs were loaded with talent. Despite our record setting low points that season, only 4 teams had more Pro Bowlers... With the talent we've had, it's crazy to think about how far this team could have gone these past 8-9 years if we actually had a legit QB. It's sad, really. Kyle Orton is the only guy since Trent Green who I've seen play for the Chiefs that gave me the feeling that we actually had a legit, aggressive, seemingly competent, non-pussified QB...and look at what we did with him...we beat the dominant 2011 Packers with him. And Kyle Orton isn't even very good...ask the Donk fans.

Smith walked into a better situation than you realize. That 2012 team had tons of potential. Stop acting as if the turnaround from 2-14 in 2012 was only because of Smith being acquired. There was a ton more that went into it. I give much more credit to Reid, Dorsey and Sutton than I do Alex "offensive forfeit" Smith for that turnaround.

I had to click n this thread to see what you guys are alking about.

Holy ****ing shit Geno Smith?

:facepalm:

Hey nitwits we just drafted a talented QB in the top 10 of the draft. Thank your lucky stars we didn't draft Geno's worthless skinny legged noodle armed ass.

I'm fine with this. Your Smith love is still a little on the creepy side, but you can't win them all.

I'm now waiting for some loser to say, "IT'S NOT UP TO YOU TO DECIDE WHO HE CAN AND CAN'T ROOT FOR HERPA DERP DERP DERP"

Capn Butt Cheeks has to be related to Smith

I think this is a false statement. The vast majority of this board knew/felt he was the best QB available at that time, but was the 'safe' way to go and didn't really want a re-tread....and those opposed to him were willing to take a step back for a younger QB with a higher ceiling or go with a diffrent ree-tread (cheaper) QB who didn't cost so much (2 great second round picks + 60 million) and try and build more towards the future than for a 'now' that they saw as impossible - and turned out to be impossible in reality.

Phrasing the argument in the terms that the 'majority' of CP thought there was a better QB at THAT TIME is false, IMO.

You can blame douchebags like Tiger and PAChiefsfan for that one.

The 2011 Chiefs were two blocked FGs away from a playoff berth.

With QB starts by Cassel, Palko and Kyle Orton.

....

Most silly, immature people, you mean.

It's no different than any entertainment. Got sick of Pop music and moved onto Blues? Got sick of fishing every Sunday, and took up bowling instead? Got sick of spending another boring Sunday with the wife? so you now go to a Hotel to **** the mistress?

Do what you do.. I certainly don't GAF enough to judge you for it. I'd have to deeply care to hand down some judgement. None of my business or concern.

I hope he wins the whole f--cking thing. I know all of you say that's not possible... but I had the exact conversation for a few years with people that said:

- Smith was not capable of leading a team to a winning season, then,
- Smith was not capable of winning a playoff game, then
- Smith will never make a pro-bowl, then
- Smith would not be able to continue his success because the league has figured him out, then
- Smith will not be able to lead the Chiefs out of the cellar,
- Smith would never get the Chiefs to the playoffs, then
- Smith would never win a playoff game with the Chiefs, and of course the final two
- No team can get to the super bowl with Smith under center,
- Smith will never win a super bowl.

So... that's fine, I get that you guys have no faith in him, and hope he dies in an aids infested dumpster - that's also for some reason on fire - whatever. But I've enjoyed following his career and still think he has enough to check those last two off the list with the Chiefs.

None of these are even remotely similar to being a loyal fan of a team, sorry.


This is the most similar, and yes if you did this I would judge you as a piece of shit.

Oh my goodness, Tyler Palko...and to think we actually won a game with him...that was funny.

Orton > Smith. And as I wrote in that tl;dr post, Orton isn't even that good.

Huh? Many of us knew Smith could help get the Chiefs to the playoffs. I said as much when they acquired him, all those close losses would tip the other way as we win the turnover differential. The problem is that's his CEILING. Mahomes can help a loaded roster compete yearly for a title if he even comes close to tapping into his potential.

I see your point. But other than the high price, I would disagree...and So did Dorsey and Andy. Until now.....

You can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one gets fulfilled.

Well said.

unproductive AND messy!!

Im pretty sure you made up most of those....especially like 'leading us out of the cellar' and 'continuing success' or 'pro bowl' ..even the winnign season is a stretch because peopel were preticting 9 game winnign seasons, even his biggest detractors like me....I dont think i ever predicted he would win less than 9 games (a winning season).....i think most knew he would lead us to mediocrity at least

You are just making things up that maybe a few fringe trolls said to try and 'win' an argument.....I mean the guy did win a playoff game against houston..and broke the 20+ year curse. I absolutely give him credit for that..and I also give him credit for winning regular season games, more than I thought we would win...I also fully acknowledge that especially 1st season if we had any other QB we wouldve won a game or 2 less for sure at least...

NO ONE sane is saying otherwise...there is no need for you to make things up here..the situation is what it is...I won't even say its completely impossible for us to win a superbowl this season..but to me it seems highly unlikely....Which is why I never wanted Smith in the 1st place...

I would've personally rather gone lean 1-2 more years rather than have a couple of 1 & done seasons that to me are meaningless...But the franchise is stable now and we did break the curse. I do give thanks to smith for his part in that, but its time to move on...and I think that his chances of winning the superbowl this season are slim at best...but I won't say never because it is a team game.

That's fine...I really don't have a problem with anything you have posted, whether I share your opinion or not.

Out of curiosity (honest question), were you and other 49er fans expecting Chiefs fans to be more welcoming to the idea of trading for Smith? Did it surprise you that the majority at CP was upset that we acquired him? Or were you already used to it with the hate he received in San Francisco?

Sounds like a Shower shit cup o poodle

Well I do not fault them for going that route...to some degree..Coming off of the horrid seasons they did need someone to NOT LOSE. They got that..They were having a hard time sellign seats for the 1st time in years...I mean the franchise was in free fall. Alex Smith is a good choice for that purpose....I don't think a lot of fans couldve tolerated another risk at QB and possible fail and more 2-14 or 4-12 seasons.....

I realize I am in the minority on that, but I would've rather gone trhough a couple more horrible seasons and swung the bat a couple times but hey here we are 4 years later and we did break the 93 curse ...so all in all i am good with it...its just time to move on is all.

Alex best shot at a title is taking a drastic pay cut whilst Mahomes leads us to the promised land.

Have you not wished for the Chiefs to finally draft their QBOTF for years? Was that not just fulfilled? Did your Royals somewhat recently win the World Series? How many times did you trot out this gem on Royals boards before that happened?

Shitting in your hand is certainly more immediate, so if immediate is what you are looking for, don't let me stop you.

what if one of your wishes is not to have shit on your hand

I should have clarified that much of those conversations were on SF boards... ask your pal Kaepernick or Harbernick or whatever he goes by here. Some of the latter items were conversations from here, but that list has accumulated since about 2007 or 8. The message board has changed, but the animosity is pretty much the same.

Their Niners stupidly pass on Mahomes and THEN he steals their precious Alex's job...ouch ROFL

I bet a lot of people were high on Todd Blackledge too.

i think you (Claynus, Sweets, Pawn, snr...) would be happier shitting on each other dicks than shitting on the CHIEFS

Hope your karma doesn't stick to Mahomes and we found a QBoF after Alex

I didn't think he would win a single playoff game.....so He has exceeded my expectations....The thing about it is, even with that I still would trade the last 4 years for a different swing of the bat...BUT we may still have ended up more or less right where we are anyway and possibly without a couple of playoff game experiences and that win in HOU....So hey...I really have no complaints. Yes I wouldve rather taken a different vehicle to get to this point.....but the ALex Smith subaru got us here in 1 piece..

I can only speak for myself but I pretty much knew there was going to be hate wherever he went because he was largely blamed (in SF and in the media) for the shit-show that was the niners for years. And that's much of the reason I became so invested in his success. Everyone looked at him to be the savior and when he wasn't, he was instantly vilified. It wasn't that he just didn't live up to expectations, he was burned in effigy. And through all of that, he never turned on the fans, he never pointed his finger anywhere else (and there was plenty to point a finger at), he never talked disparagingly of the organization which delighted in throwing him under the bus, he just wore it, and continued to go out there, and do the best he could. I got into the habit of defending him. Habits die hard I guess. I would just like to see him win the whole damned thing.

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Heres a new avatar for you , Teabag...

Breaking: Alexsexual hopes Alex wins the whole thing. News at 11.

Would the Alexsexuals enjoy a Madden franchise where I attempt to drag Alex to a Super Bowl?

You must have me confused with someone who wishes we lose games.

So did the trade work out?

Surprisingly, it was a really good trade for KC. Alex won me over. However, Patrick should have been starting half way through his rookie year. That's the hill I'll die on.

After the Jets game in early December, I thought for sure Andy would start Mahomes.


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Yup took over a 2 win team won double digit games every year he was here except for 1 and we still won 9 that year. Broke the winless playoff streak. Really hate how his career ended if you'll recall he had that dumpster fire of a franchise with a winning record at the time of his injury. Came back from said injury and helped them reach the playoffs. Really hate hearing the news about his kid. Alex is a good dude and didn't deserve the Cassel level hate he got on here.

This was almost 10 years ago. When I think of “10 years ago”
I’m envisioning the Dick Vermeil era.

At some point I got goddamn old.

Smith was the straw that broke the camels back and made the Chiefs cave and draft Mahomes.

Thank you, Alex Smith.

He also took a 1-15 team and lead them to 11 wins his first year here with Dwayne Bowe, Donnie Avery and Anthony Fasano as his starting pass catching core.

While he was the catalyst that lead to Mahomes, he also helped us all forget about a toxic era of Chiefs football very quickly.

He is a Ring Of Honor inductee in my book. All day.

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He was the biggest tease we ever had.

Good enough to be a consistent regular season winner but could never get us over the hump.

He made me believe it could happen but it never did.

He kept taking us to the goal line but we never crossed.

Why?

Won 50 games in 5 seasons. 2st to do do
4 out of 5 playoff seasons
2 afc west titles
Lowest INT %

Helped turn the Chiefs around

All of that happened when Alex Smith was a pedestrian QB. People act like Alex Smith was the only change that came in the 2013 offseason.

Not everything needs to be ****ing enshrined and celebrated and a mediocre QB that was asked to simply not **** shit up and get the ball to the play makers instead of being a play maker isn't something that needs to be honored in the RoH.

So accomplishing something no other QB had done isn’t anything. Got it.

What is that? Not throwing a TD pass to a WR for a full season?

If you hate seeing WRs catch TDs it sure did.

Finally some fresh offseason discussion...

What the **** are we supposed to say about Alex Smith that hasn't been said a million times before by just about ****ing everybody?

If you really loved those Alex debate years and wish you could re-live them again, sure, I guess go ahead and have this conversation. Get out your dobbers and play Alex Smith cliche talking points bingo with the old ladies.

"I've got 'Class act!', 'He is what he is', 'Won't lose you the game,' 'We were a 2-14 team' and 'He's a great guy! That being said...'"

"That's a good bingo! Onto postage stamp!"

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The dark days are behind us. Let it ****ing die.

And would have beat the Colts if Dwayne Bowe could have kept his ****ing feet in bounds at the goal line.

Should have kept Gannon.

Alex Smith was a dry hand job

In hindsight Alex Smith was the best possible move we could have made, given who was actually attainable. We were never going to win a Super Bowl with him, but who could we have gotten that would? The '13 through '16 drafts all ended up being pretty shit for QBs.

Alex wasn't responsible for anything good. Andy Reid should get 100% of the credit. ****, I guarantee if Andy would have had Matt Cassel as QB, we would have had the same exact success.

Alex gets a lot a lot of praise from idiots and it's all because he lucked into getting the best and most innovative head coach ever.

Alex could have been replaced with any other mediocre QB and the results are the same.