No. Mediocre should be the floor. His defense was good. Mixon's statline was 15/72/0/4.8. The run game overall was 20/79/0/4.0. His Oline was dogshit, similar to Mahomes in the 2020 SB.

Burrow failed in the SB to extend a lead or to drive for a GWFG. As Stone Cold says, that's the bottom line but i can give him a break because he was under constant pressure in the 2nd half and he was sacked 7 times in the game (5 in the 2nd half, i believe). The Bengals had 1 of those 3 areas that played well enough to win. Just like Mahomes had in the 2020 SB that they lost.

All these opportunities and you still don't get it. I don't have the time right now to explain it to you, but i'm sure i'll be back tonight. I'll break it down point by point to you, but i'm not confident that you'll understand even with that.

Oh, it applies. Like i said earlier, it's not a 100% guarantee but it's one of those things that bears out in the majority of cases. I'm kind of blanking on the phrase...maybe statistical probability...but it's one of those things things you see when you look deeper to find common denominators.

If you look at KCs 4 SBs, 3 of them the boxes were checked and they won. 1 wasn't checked and they lost.

Jumpball Joey choked away 2 ring opportunities. Failed to put away a SuperBowl against a Ram mercenary crew and couldn't beat a crippled Pat. When the game was given to him he shit it away.

He had plenty of "support"

Why didn't Pat win in 2020? He had plenty of support. #1 offense in yards, 6th in scoring. A middle of the pack run game and defense. He had Tyreek and Travis. What went wrong?

Tampa? Phantom flags giving Brady 2 cheap TDs (PI on balls thrown into the stands, PI on a Mike Evans blatant push off) 2 dropped TDs. The NFL wasn't allowing them ti win that game, but they sure played poorly that day. We've seen MULTIPLE times that certain players that will be figurehead for the league after retirement were gifted Superbowls.

Maybe Pat will get a few too?

omg...Colleen Wolfe on NFL Network right now. :hump:

Good thing i need to jump in the shower before heading to the game.

If anyone would understand what having no O line is like I'd expect it to be a Colts or Bangles fan...

Sounds like a lot of bullshit conspiracy theory excuses, broham.

Bradshaw and Montana played in 4 SBs and didn't lose any of them. Maybe Mahomes is just the unluckiest guy ever?

Oh, i understand. Burrow had no Oline in the SB. That's kind part of the point i'm making.

Imagine if they steer a few his way though? 3 legit titles with zero ref help and screwed out of the 4th already? This early in his career? Uh oh...

But that post nut clarity might make you want to not go to the game with the way the Bengals are playing right now....

Gimme a percentage of the probability of that happening.

I'm sure it's been mentioned somewhere in this thread -

Most Chiefs fans really, really lament the fact that we took Clyde Edwards-Helaire with the last pick of the first round of '20, and then the Bengals took Tee Higgins with the first pick of the second round the same year. Cinci definitely won that decision.

That point was so obviously true that Veach rebuilt the whole ****ing thing. I'd be surprised that anyone would argue with you over that one...

Joe.....Rivers?

Lol… you don’t have time but yet you’ve posted a masters thesis after this very post. You just don’t have a point. There is nothing to break down except why a bengals fan is pounding his chest about midseason stats on a Chiefs forum. You lack self awareness and a fundamental understanding of how football works.

Excuses is complaining about offensive line play when your franchise chose Chase over Sewell.

LMAO

That was a good burn

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Things must have soured on Bengals WR Jermaine Burton over the weekend. He is not warming up ahead of today’s game against the Raiders. Will likely be a healthy scratch.</p>&mdash; Ben Baby (@Ben_Baby) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ben_Baby/status/1853108703328674236?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 3, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This dude is a lost cause. Can't get right.

Their GM and offensive line suck.

Somehow though they've been one of the most successful teams in the league at drafting QB's. It boggles the mind....

Thrashed the hapless fade.

Good for Mr faulk and I can say one team I hate beat a team I hate even more.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">QB with 5 Pass TD in a game this season<br><br>Joe Burrow 2<br>Every other NFL QB combined 1 <a href="https://t.co/pQBX7xYEKS">pic.twitter.com/pQBX7xYEKS</a></p>&mdash; NFL on CBS 🏈 (@NFLonCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLonCBS/status/1853213411561316468?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 3, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I powered through, just like the Bengals. :thumb:

Burrow is massaging his wrist in evaporated milk.

Great stats. Whoopie. We have moved passed stats. We don't care about them anymore. We want wins anyway they come. That's all history remembers.

Ok dimwit. Time for your lesson.

I made the claim you need 2 of 3 out of Oline, running game and defense to win rings, in response to Pablo saying "But he'd NEVER let his team get in a 3-6 hole. Just isn't it him ya know?". You asked how many of Mahomes SBs did he have that, so i posted the results.

You said cherry picked and moving goal posts and claimed i was using ypa and ypg when it fit the narrative.
1. Nothing was cherry picked. I made a specific claim and showed results for exactly what i claimed.
2. No goal posts were moved because my claim and my results were based on the exact same thing and that never changed.
3. I never used ypa and ypg interchangeably. In ever single instance, i only cited ypc--never once using ypg--with the exception of 2019 when you had a bad running game in-season, across the board, so i didn't even bother showing ypc.

That's 3 things that you're completely wrong about from the very beginning.

If you look at the numbers i posted, i used two examples. Regular season and Super Bowl for each SB season. In the regular season running stats, i cited the ypc because that's important in being able to move the chains. In the SB it was simply to show how effective the running game was in that single game.

I don't give two monkey shits about how good or bad your running game is in-season because in 17 games, you can be good and bad week to week. In the single Super Bowl game, it's much more important. In every single one of KCs Super Bowls you had good numbers running the ball--averaging 131 yards in the 4 games. The worst being 2020 when you only ran it 17 times for 107 yards, but you ran it for 6.3ypc in that game. I also couldn't give two Llama spits about how much of that is Mahomes because the claim is about yards on the ground and it fits for every team exactly the same.

To answer your question directly, Pat had at least 2 out of 3 of those things 3 times and they won all 3 of those games. In 1 of those games, he only had 1 of those 3 things and they lost the game.

Now that i've conclusively shown that you don't know what the hell you're talking about and you don't even have the slightest clue about what the discussion is...feel free to post something completely dumb that continues to show you don't know what the **** you're talking about.

Because one guy out of five is going to change the entirety of the Oline play.

You're a genius...:rolleyes:

He seems to have a real problem not understanding how easy it is to not be a dumbass.

No one is going to read this

I don't know what that means but welcome to Joevember.

https://i.ibb.co/MkbD9yq/joevember.jpg

Good.

So we're naming stuff after 2nd place now?

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Mr November perhaps? We already have Mr January.

Playing for 2nd at something in the conference is an accomplishment?

Nonono. It's says November and later.

More useless stats.

https://i.ibb.co/GvqQpnx/burrow-that-time-of-year.jpg

Mahomes makes his tackles look better than they are. Burrow doesn’t. Mahomes hasn’t had good tackles for years.

How did the defense check the box after allowing 35 vs the Eagles?

If Mixon’s SB performance didn’t check the box, then Pacheco definitely didn’t last year. 18 for 59, 3.3 avg.

I’d like to see Burrow put up big numbers with Mahomes’ tackles and WRs of the last 2.5 years.

Btw, Burrow’s defense is currently middle of the pack in both yards per play allow and points per play. By your logic, they check the box.

Fauker suffering from small pee pee syndrome

Yep the most important stat is missing…. Super Bowl wins..

It’s like the Brady vs Manning debate but Brady is the one with more MVPs, first team all-pro selections, passing leader awards etc

Feels like it gets earlier every year.


https://i.imgur.com/jXtL1TT.png

You should actually watch a Bengals game.

Why would we watch a losing team?

He should try to start faster.

Getting to the Super Bowl is easier as the 1 seed.

I'll answer that question in 24 hours.

Is this suggesting the Chiefs lose tomorrow night?

🤣

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“JOE BURROW IS CARRIED BY HIS WEAPONS”<br><br>Today, Joe Burrow threw his five touchdown passes to…<br>Chase Brown<br>Drew Sample<br>Andrei Iosivas<br>Mike Gesicki<br><br>EVERYONE CAN KINDLY SHUT UP. <br><br>(h/t <a href="https://twitter.com/SethR94?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SethR94</a>) <a href="https://t.co/BWUxW2m93U">pic.twitter.com/BWUxW2m93U</a></p>&mdash; MLFootball (@_MLFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1853220882841321643?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 3, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

None of which will catch a 4th quarter TD pass from him in a playoff game.

Patuary
Febuhomes
Mahomuary

Which one do you like best?

Doesn’t…. Doesn’t the season start in September though?

You’re my boy, blue. But isn’t it chicken soup for the soul when you get a win against the dregs of the league? We could probably put together a CP team with Clay at RB and beat the Fade!

Wait wait wait...so NOW you agree Brown, Galecki, and Yoshiivash are turds ROFL

Thank Chase and Higgins for drawing coverage to let those turds feast

Accidently thumbed you down bro!

All those "stats" and likely miss the playoffs this year lulz

All Jr. 150 yards in 8 games...Bengals "star rookie" injures knee...i must have missed what he did to become some big loss that the media is saying it is

This thread is becoming a diqlix Twitter special of QB stats.

I mean if they're 9-0...or even 6-3 with a few big wins...but 4-5 only beating the dregs of the league, it's really strange

So, you used season stats because its important but you also don't give a shit about regular season stats. Makes sense. Especially since most of your other posts are about burrow's regular season stats. LOL...

But you're not moving the goalposts, right?

You didn't make "a specific" claim. Your claim continually shifted based on the data and the point you needed to make. Sometimes you use season stats to prove your point, other times (when the season stats didn't support your argument) you used stats only from the Super Bowl). So, you can claim Mahomes had a running game based on either season results OR stats from the Super Bowl, regardless of how much he contributed to that stat himself. So, if burrow lacks a running game he should take off more himself then, right??? Since, it doesn't matter how the yardage is produced (even though your claim is that a QB needs a running game, not that a team needs a running game). But you're definitely not moving any goalposts, right?

You typed all of that just to further demonstrate your ignorance and/or cognitive dissonance.

1. You consider the 2019 Chiefs oline good... lol
2. Bengals have more than one draft pick per draft. Chiefs drafted Creed and Trey in the same draft, for example. Bengals could have drafted Sewell AND another lineman. Radical idea, huh? ESPECIALLY since, having a line is more important than WR's, right?

So the Chiefs are losing tonight?

I mean, sure, anything is possible, I suppose. It is an NFC game which is pretty meaningless in tiebreak scenarios for playoff seeding, so I guess if they are going to lose one anytime soon, I'd probably want it to be this game frankly.

That said, even if we do lose tonight, that will be 1/5th of the Bengals losses for the year, so yeah . . . . .

Look at what Chase Brown does when he gets actual touches in a game.

He doesn't need 32 every week like Hunt, but damn he's good when given a chance.

I have to take what i can get, my man!

Don't forget the Pic 6 he threw, so he really threw 6 TD's yesterday! ;)

So Mr. November/December?

Did I miss the Jermaine Burton news?

Mr Nocember?

Mr. LateBloomer?

Mr. 3-5WildCardPush?

Turd

It's because you don't know ball, bro.

I don't know how you guys could have possibly missed how much Burrow is getting shit on for their record, here in the last couple months.

These useless stats are simply to show he's doing his part.

It ain't rocket surgery guys.

Been saying it all year. Just needed Moss to be out for Zac to realize it.

He's a bit slow, don'tcha know.

I love you Peeg, you never clock out, it's all about duty. LMAO

They put specific plays in the gameplan for him and had planned to utilize him Sunday but Jermaine decided he didn't need to show up for the walkthrough on Saturday. Guy just doesn't get it.

He tried to sit down on the bench near Joe Sunday and Joe got up and said something to him to the effect 'you haven't done anything to sit down. you should be up there paying attention'. Then Burton got up and walked away before Joe sat back down. ROFL

A bit later, the camera showed Joe sitting on the bench with a sour look on his face while they had the 5td graphic on the screen and you could see Burton doing a little dance as he walked by the shot. So ****ing clueless.

Homie sticks to his guns. Even when they're shooting him right in the face.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This will hurt some feelings:<br><br>Joe Burrow still hasn&#39;t led a 4th Quarter TD drive in 6 playoff starts.<br><br>That&#39;s right. In Burrow&#39;s playoff career, the Bengals defense has produced more TD&#39;s in the 4th Q (1) than the Bengals offense (0).<br><br>Don&#39;t get mad at me, just giving the facts</p>&mdash; Barry (@BarryOnHere) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarryOnHere/status/1618089367297478661?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You obviously do or you would have just ignored it.