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DJ's left nut 04-26-2011 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7594281)
That last pitch would have been a double play if the infield is at regular depth.

Yeah, but with Bourne at 3b and 1 down, you don't have a choice but to play your IF in. I understand that decision.

But again, if Yadi hadn't cost his pitcher a clear strike, the 2nd out is Bill Hall and the IF is at normal depth with 2 outs for the next man up.

Baseball isn't a complicated enough game for stuff like that to go unpunished. This team does not play smart, focused baseball. If it's not LaRussa's job to address that kind of crap, I'm not exactly sure what we pay him for.

Rams Fan 04-26-2011 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7594290)
Not yet you need more than 6 innings pitched in the big show before taking on the "closer"role.

Salas was decent last year in the bigs. He should at least be splitting time with Boggs at closer.

BigRedChief 04-26-2011 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7594265)
Yay.

Another game lost to an inferior team when we held a late lead.

This team may not lose 90 games as suggested, but they probably should.

Bad ****ing baseball.

Despite that.... Still tied for first. 86 wins may win the division this year.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-27-2011 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7594232)
I'm sure their superstar team leader has nothing to do with that.

It all comes back to Pujols and Molina for you. It's pathological.

We'll just forget that one of these supposed lazy players made a bigger difference in runs saved at his position than any other player in the league, save for three outfielders last year (Molina), and that Pujols saved more runs than any player in the NL in 2007 and 2008 just with his defense, not just for his position, but of all positions.

Both guys are super slow runners, and yet are always among the first to get the extra base or swipe a bag when the pitcher isn't paying attention, and their ESP backpick play is the best in baseball. That too must be attributable to laziness and stupidity, because of lazy and stupid baseball players are known for anything, it's catching the other team off guard, again and again.

You've wanted to dump Pujols and Molina for a while, claiming that they were part of the latin contingent that mailed in the 2010 season. Sure, Felipe Lopez is the best example of a mail in job, but the last I checked, Molina caught more games than any catcher in baseball last year, and Pujols had the best numbers in baseball again. Where exactly are these mail in jobs?

This isn't a game played by automatons. There are lags, lulls, and mistakes that will happen more often in a protracted season. It doesn't mean the players who make them are lazy, especially when they have a long and documented history of showing tremendous effort through offensive and defensive production.

Pujols has saved far more runs with his supposed lazy defense than a bum like Brendan Ryan ever made running balls out on a one hopper to the second baseman.

BigRedChief 04-27-2011 06:21 PM

punto leading off and freese batting 2nd? Larussa comes up with the wildest lineups.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-27-2011 07:42 PM

Lohse pitching well again tonight.

Marcellus 04-27-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 7597122)
Lohse pitching well again tonight.

I swear aliens took over his body.

veist 04-27-2011 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7597123)
I swear aliens took over his body.

Well at least the aliens like us?

BigRedChief 04-27-2011 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 7597122)
Lohse pitching well again tonight.

I guess it was the injury holding him back?:hmmm:

Rams Fan 04-27-2011 08:33 PM

Is Franklin working on blowing a Cards 6 run lead?

Rams Fan 04-27-2011 08:35 PM

Tony pulled Franklin. Wow.

BigRedChief 04-27-2011 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7597249)
Is Franklin working on blowing a Cards 6 run lead?

Better now than when he can cost us a game.

Rams Fan 04-27-2011 08:38 PM

Bases loaded for the Astros.

****ing great...

BigRedChief 04-27-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7597255)
Tony pulled Franklin. Wow.

He faced two batters. Had horrible location and both batters hit the ball hard. Glad to see some common sense out of Tony.

No firggin way Salas should be sent down to the minors. Franklin needs to go down to find his groove. And now Miller hasn't retired a batter in his last 4 appearances.

Quit giving those old guys a chance to cost us games.

Marcellus 04-27-2011 08:40 PM

Franklin is toast. He can't even pitch with a 6 run lead.

JFC he is done.


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