YOU WILL GET NEITHER AND YOU WILL LIKE IT

SNR in here judging people.

Hell hath frozen over.

You know we got it good as a fan base when you have people talking fondly about a guy that averaged 3500 yards and 20 TDs a year while here.

Bunch of Dayton Moores in this thread.

I'll bet Alex refrained from masturbating and looking at porn. Now THAT'S what I call a memorable and successful career!

his big stat games always coincided with peak semen retention dates

the next week he'd have a nocturnal emission and lose all that chi power and go 14 for 23 for 100 yards and 0 TD, 1 INT

I wouldn't say I'm speaking fondly of him. I'm just being realistic.

That trade helped stabilize the organization in desperate times. In full hindsight, it has to be viewed as a win for the franchise.

2013:
Geno Smith (disaster)
Manuel (disaster)
Nassib (disaster)
Glennon (disaster)
Landry Jones (disaster)

2014:
Bortles (out of reach)
Manziel (disaster)
Carr (just good enough to not need replaced; Alex Smith lite)
Garoppolo (just good enough to not need replaced; Alex Smith lite)

2015:
Winston (out of reach)
Mariota (out of reach)
Brett Hundley (disaster)
Seimian (disaster)

2016:
Goff (out of reach)
Wentz (out of reach)
Paxton Lynch (disaster)
Hackenburg (disaster)
Brisset (disaster)
Dak Prescott (would have been a good pick, but you can kiss Mahomes goodbye)

All of these options are either terrible, not accessible realistically, or would result in us no longer drafting Mahomes.

The only other realistic option was Carson Palmer and if you go back in time and we pick him up instead, everything else changes up to this point. Palmer was probably not winning us a Super Bowl from 2013-2017 so nothing changes anyway. We do a lot of spinning our wheels until 2017 when we take Patrick regardless.

Here's another tier 1 Alexsexual.

Pretty much every single one of those guys could have replicated ASS11's success here.

I disagree.

Alex's play style, like Lamar Jackson in a way, is really good for winning regular season games. We all know it is not the winning formula in the postseason, but we don't average 10-11 wins per season with most of those guys at QB.

Alex Smiff: You can never be too careful.

Patrick Mahomes: Ahh **** it, Kelce down there somewhere.

Not saying they ALL would have been Alex or better, but you also can't ignore there are reasons why teams like the Jets, Browns, Jaguars, etc; are disasters at QB despite picking high in the draft.... and not average, but disasters.

And the Chiefs hired the right HC... so to a large extent you have to say you trust Reid's assessment and to choose a stop gap and not draft a QB that season.

OTOH, I think it's wrong to assume each of those QBs has exactly the same experience under Reid and an organization that was trying to quickly get back to mediocrity and didn'thave a dumpster fire of a roster, as opposed to the organizations that seemingly wallow in the dumpster fire.

It's probably also wrong to assume once they signed him to 4 years or whatever it was, they were going to immediately draft a guy the next year anyway.... they probably handcuffed themselves to a large extent by their own loyalty to Smith (in other words, you could say they committed themselves to 4 years of mediocrity with that signing, as opposed to finding a 1 year stop gap and maybe being bad for another year).

I find it odd to give Andy so much credit as a coach, while also giving him so little credit as a talent evaluator.

Or ignoring the fact that none of these QBs listed were the answer either.

Can anyone here with a straight face claim that we win a Super Bowl from 2013-2017 with any of these QBs?

No, you absolutely cannot. In fact, knowing what we know now, we are most likely in worse position today if we take a chance on any one of these guys.

Y'all wanna go back in time and take Carr or Garoppolo? Lol. They're probably both still in KC to this day. Dak Prescott? We for damn sure don't draft Mahomes in the next draft. Any of those other names probably extend the Save Our Chiefs days by another couple calendar years.

Carson Palmer was the only other viable option so there is no point in complaining about Alex Smith. He wasn't Mr. Right, but he ****ed us until he showed up.

The only thing we know is that no one other than Alex Smith was the QB for the Chiefs and inserting another QB in his spot that failed in another situation and saying he would have failed here isn't knowledge of shit.

There are a number of QBs that showed success under Reid in Philly that all turned out to be dogshit on other teams. There was even a time where Alex Smith was complete dogshit on another team before the Chiefs where he was upgraded to middling... weird.

By all means, feel free to make the case that we'd be better off now if we'd have decided to take a chance on EJ Manuel.

This list is full of turds, dude.

Alex Smith had more combined experience and talent than anyone on this list. If Reid couldn't make him elite, he damn sure couldn't make Derek Carr elite.

Alex Smith was a turd too.

carr is better now than alex ever was

This is an edit after I quoted you so I'll address this too.

Smith had clearly turned a corner in his last couple years in San Fran. He was no longer dogshit by 2011.

He wasn't a turd. Stop it.

You can call him a dud, maybe. A turd, though? No. I won't have it!

lol K.

You know he'd still be here right now if we had drafted him back in 2014. Your proposal is to draft Carr in 2014 and hope that pussy leads us to the Super Bowl.

Nick Foles could have won us a supebowl.

Yeah, he did catch lightning in a bottle ala Flacco, but he was on our roster. He started games for us. Andy let him go.

I trust Andy to make that call.

17 TDs and 3100 yards. I'm amazed the 49ers were even willing to give him up in a trade.

8th ranked defense, 8th ranked rushing, 30th ranked passing. It's a wonder Smith could even stand up straight. His back was pretty ****ed up from carrying that team.

it's true

alex's best season is basically carr's floor now

and he doesnt have a tyreek

3100 yards, 17 TDs and 5 INTs on 445 passes.

That's not dogshit, bro.

His YPA that season was 7.1. Mahomes and Brady's last year was 7.4.

Dogshit was Rex Grossman that same year. He attempted 458 passes for 3100 yards, 16 TDs and 20 INTs. Tarvaris Jackson. Josh Freeman.

Why the **** are we debating Alex Smith? This is giving me flashbacks..

His mediocre stats weren't even his worst sin. Watching Alex Smith play brought me almost no joy. The Cassel - Smith stretch of Chiefs was some of the most uninspired offensive play imaginable.

Alex Smith spotted at the Auto and Tractor Museum in Branson

Dipshit needs to quit bumping old threads.

Doesn't matter anyway. The argument isn't that Alex Smith is better than Derek Carr in a vacuum.

In the timeline where we drafted Derek Carr:

We languish even longer in the Save Our Chiefs days for the 2013 season, probably go like 7-9 with some schlub off the scrapheap at QB.

We draft Carr in 2014.

We don't win a Super Bowl from 2014-2017.

We probably don't draft Mahomes in 2017 because Carr is juuuust good enough to not need replacing and still young enough for the front office to not want to trade up for another QB.

I see Foles and Smith as the same tier of "might not **** it up if everything else goes right" QB. Also in 2013 we probably would have had to give more for Foles than we gave up for Smith. He was younger and Philly still saw him as their QBOTF.

In that same offense, Colin Kaepernick had 8.3 YPA. Turds lose their job to Colin Kaepernick.

SB Champs in 2014 and 2015 most likely

Kaepernick was really good for those couple years from 2012-2014.

Smith helped them get to the NFCCG in 2011. He would have beat the Giants and helped them advance to the Super Bowl if not for two fumbles from Kyle Williams on the punt return team.

LMAO Troll

Clay, did you know Alex Smith had the highest rating in 2017?

highest masturbrating maybe

Winning the SB in 2015 was doable with Carr.

When as a fan base you're still debating a guy half a decade and 2 superbowl appearances later, on whether or not he was a good qb, then you know he was a good QB that as apparent as our recent success, wasn't good enough to CONTINOUSLY get you to the big game.... Could we have done it? Probably we were stacked when Smith was let go.

Trying to argue that he wasn't good, or that he was better than good is just dumb...

Can we get more terrible Alex Smith GIFs?

It was doable with Alex if he wasn’t such a pussy

You guys have to remember - Clay is still REALLY bitter about getting strafed by Sandbox Alex Smith back in the day.

He never really recovered from it.

as you wish

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ugh

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u fargin icehole

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Mods please lock this thread

During the Alex War, Clay was twice honored with Chiefs Planet's highest citation for gifs and videos. And if he could not find a role for himself in peace, we can pity him, but we shall not dismiss him.

Do we have time for WASP?

Alex:

Nope.

Mahomes:

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Yep.

Ahhh. Nothing like jamming a metaphoric 16 grit sandpaper dildo up my rectum.

Man you guys are something else. Smith came here, helped turn Chiefs franchise around despite his many limitations, then Chiefs ended up finally drafting a 1st round QB by the name of Patrick Mahomes, a QB which Alex Smith helped mentor. Mahomes took over in amazing fashion which led to Chiefs winning a SB for first time since 1969. I don't think the situation could have worked out much better.

Yet you guys still want to bitch. Bunch of crybabies...

Alex Smith was an average QB with certain strengths and weaknesses but he came here and did best he could. It worked out long term which is what Reid was looking at, the big picture, not the small one. There's no reason to be a weirdo like the nerd Clay and hate the guy.

I didn't care for his dink and dunk too scared to throw it down field play; but he is one of only 5 Chiefs QBs to ever win a playoff game. I rank him right behind Steve DeBerg.

I think, ultimately, a lot of people don't believe he did do the best he could.

He had all of the physical tools and experience required to be an elite QB, which always made him more frustrating to watch. No one gave a shit when Brodie Croyle or Damon Huard sucked because they just didn't have it. The only thing holding Alex back was himself.

If he wasn't such a pussy and just let it fly from time to time, he'd be remembered more fondly here.

And you still have to defend your boi like he’s a member of your family.

Most of you Alex nerds were annoyed we drafted Mahomes, and especially mad when he took the job all while Rooting for him to fail.

Sorry.

Need Tiger & Sandy bitch ass back in here.

Both are Clay mults

They both died, but we DO have discount Tiger/Sandy in PAChiefsGuy

Nuke the thread from orbit

He drove Niners fans crazy with his dump offs. After Joe Montana and Steve Young, we were used to offense - real offense. He showed he had it in him to do, at times, but he was just way too cautious.

Funny though, I was talking to a guy from Missouri yesterday, started out talking about Joe Montana. I mentioned I had rooted for the Chiefs in the playoffs when Joe was QB there, and that I tried to catch all the Chiefs games when Alex was there.

He said he liked Alex Smith. I was a bit surprised.

He was always a huge sources of controversy among Niners fans.

****ing moron

don't let it die

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woof

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You advocated for Geno Smith and his "Chocolate Penis" that you loved referencing so often.

LMAO

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That's one of them that used to set me into rage mode.

Lmao, Alex was such a ****ing jackass. Mother****er was the king of dancing into a sack, because he had 0 pocket awareness.

Alex didn’t have Satan behind him. You have to sell your soul to the devil to be a star.

LMAO

More More More!!!!

anything for you

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Ehhh, this one isn't bad at all. He just overthrew him by a bit and stood in there while taking a hit.

For what it's worth - most QBs in the league don't hit that throw. Sure, the guys open as hell, but c'mon, that's a ****ing nasty throw to try to make with your momentum doing that.

But yeah - Mahomes hits it in his sleep.

Because he's a God.

**** you. I been a Chiefs fan since I was a little kid. . This the first time I've posted about Alex in a long time. You guys are rhe ones obsessed with him, not me.

Alex is gone, he is retired, I suggest you all move on if the subject upsets you so much... or you can continue to obsess over him w Clay.

7 yards

"a bit"

LMAO

alex apologists suck