I just want to take this opportunity to say that I am glad to finally post something on this wonderful community. Hopefully we draft that Geno Smith Feller!

Dude...if they have read any of this....you haven't told them ANYTHING THEY DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW!! DOUCHE NOZZLE.

burt and domer are brothers.

Nope. I am just an average guy...And Domer is a large one. And why is it that you and your little coven think about cock so much?

And one of us HATES Reaper...the other one kind of appreciates him....

From the EXACT SAME POST a bit later...

Implying that the physical presence of Domer would supposedly make us think twice about insulting him to his face.

Do you see your logical fallacy, burt? You're saying everybody on this thread who thinks your brother is a dumbass is wrong because your brother is physically intimidating.

Now THAT'S thinking laterally. Or whatever the **** it is you say that makes no sense.

You've always been the reasonable one.

I know this. How does he know nobody would call his brother a moron IRL?

LMAO

Logical fallacy is too large of words for burt. Please try again.

ROFL

Because he's never met billay.

He never did deny the Kimbo picture...ROFL

OKAY BUT HOW ARE ELEPHANTS SUPPOSED TO PROCREATE IF THEY USE PINEAPPLES AS DILDOS?

I HAVE READING COMPREHENSION ISSUES!

so you're the bottom

does your bro have bitch tits?

LMAO

This is getting to be almost as bad as the broken plane in midair thread

Again...go use caps and try reading...I never equated dumb ass with physically intimidating...never. I stated, try to keep up...that you wouldn't be so vulgar and insulting to his face. And please try to read slower...because big words or not...you just Don't seem to get it...

Oh, and I also said I support Smith as our hero. I have been swayed over to your thought process ON THIS ISSUE.

http://i.imgur.com/e7IWl.gif

but really, your brother makes moronic posts. Like, almost BlackBob level.

JFC

Thread ruined.

Burt please go the **** to another thread already. This is dumb.

Now it's your turn to keep up. That's not the issue. The issue is that we think your brother is a dumb ass. That's always been the issue. This isn't a case where we're poking fun at you for being Eric Winston. We're poking fun at you for saying your brother's viewpoint is acceptable, just different.

I will also be as vulgar as I wish. ****. **** **** **** ****. ****ity **** ****. Tits. Shit.

Please... you are redirecting the fact that you can't make a valid point about anything I posted. Nice... Facts are facts and you can't seem to comprehend them..redirection won't help. Hey, maybe you should type in all caps for attention? Wait? What? never mind..No try making a sophomoric incestuous, gay remark..nope, already done..oh I know...say bitch tits...that is really insulting!! ROFLROFL

There is still hope. We just need to get back on topic.

Alright, who the **** wrote this? I detest BR but jesus ****ing christ, I know it was somebody from this site.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...hiefs-problems

"The 2013 class does have one prospect who appears to have a shot at being a first-round pick and a successful quarterback in the NFL immediately, and it's not Matt Barkley of USC. Rather, that honor would go to Geno Smith.

Smith is a versatile quarterback with all the traits needed to be a franchise quarterback. He is huge at 6'3" and 215 pounds, but fast enough to extend plays with his feet in a similar manner to what Luck and Griffin have been able to do in the pocket.

The 22-year-old Mountaineer had a jaw-dropping year in 2012. He threw for 4,004 yards, 40 touchdowns and only six interceptions. His quarterback rating was an exceptional 164.6. Smith was also able to flash his athleticism with 155 yards and two touchdowns on the ground.

His numbers included an amazing 656 yard, eight touchdown performance in a 70-63 victory over Baylor late in the season.
Smith is obviously a raw talent, but with the right coaching staff and surroundings his transition to the professional level could be a smooth one.

That's where Kansas City comes into the picture.

The Chiefs have an elite running back in Jamaal Charles and a crop of supporting skill players such as Tony Moeaki, who will give Smith plenty of options on every down. The offensive line is still spotty, but Smith's athleticism will allow him to compensate.

Recently, ESPN's Adam Schefter explained that Smith hasn't impressed scouts, and he believes Smith could fall out of the first round (h/t Arrowhead Pride).

Is Geno Smith the answer for the Chiefs' problems?
Yes
No
Submit Vote vote to see results
Whether or not Smith has a chance to fall to the second round, the Chiefs cannot afford to take that gamble. He's a special prospect who could change the franchise, and he's arguably the best in his class.

It's unreasonable to place major expectations on Smith's shoulders when comparing him to Luck or Griffin, because prospects such as those are extremely rare. That doesn't mean Smith cannot have a meaningful impact in Kansas City considering his impressive skill set.

Consistency at the quarterback position is what the Chiefs need. An added wrinkle in the offense rather than typical pocket passers could help things as well, and will add some creativity to what has been a stale offense over the past few seasons.

Smith has the answers to the Chiefs' offensive woes, and needs to be the first player Kansas City selects in the 2013 NFL draft. "


Just to remind you all, I still ****ing hate Bleacher Report.

**** off.

he runs a system in college that he wont run in the NFL. His numbers are skewed because of this gimmick offense. Matthews is a LB. Never said he was a ILB. I was pointing out that a linebacker can make a difference, thats why you draft them. This is pointless. You guys seem to be great at insulting people for disagreeing with you. Congratulations. I guess thats all you have when only time will tell.

I didn't say bitch tits. Talking Can did.

NOW YOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUU HAVE READING COMPREHENSION ISSUES!!!!

This entire exchange has been a case of you backpedaling when someone tries to inject reason into you and your brother's thick skulls. Your brother for his dumbassery and you for thinking your brother's football points are valid. Then you shield yourself under the "reading comprehension" umbrella when people start pissing on you for it.

I'm glad you like Geno Smith. I'm sorry your brother is such a ****ing dumbass. Congratulations on quitting drinking.

Have a nice life.

So much ignorance crammed into one post. Awesome.

Let me spell it out for you:
1) We don't support Geno because of his stats.
2) Yes, Matthews is a LB. In a completely different system with a completely different role that actually has game-changing implications. A role that Teo does not fit.

So much for respect huh?

I was just trying to offer some reasonable advice.

You gonna threaten me with your brother too?

ROFLROFL Dumb ass...Where, exactly, did I say that you said that? I suggested that you do. Since can made it look so cool. STILL CAN"T READ!!!ROFLROFL

And my brothers spin on the draft made sense when he explained it to me....now I believe in Smith.

Isn't there some kind of tool that can remove dumbasses from a thread?

How? I pointed out that the consistent plays and route philosophies Geno runs (mesh, shallow cross, smash, sticks, sluggo seam, etc) are all NFL philosophies. Additionally, Geno had a full year playing in a pro-based offense under center. It isn't a gimmick offense. If you think so, tell that to the Pats, whose OC came from the AirRaid tree and incorporates several of thei concepts in regards to route design, hots, and sight adjustments. Additionally, the pull from another "gimmick offense" in Oregon in running their hurry-up/no huddle.

Matthews is a pass-rushing, OLB. Not even remotely the same thing as Ray Lewis or Te'o.

You know absolutely nothing about football and I gather you've spent exactly zero time in any capacity learning about it in a higher level than junior high school.

Nah...I still haven't threatened anyone. With my brother or otherwise. I merely stated that they wouldn't be so insulting to his face. Feel threatened? Can no one on this board read?

Oh, and respect is earned and spent.

Dude it was an implied threat. Just admit it and move on.

Or continue to look like a massive douche.

You're at a crossroads.

Hop on...it's an old fashioned pile on and decorum, logic and fact doesn't matter...just being rude, semi funny and vulgar matter.

And please...twist anything I say to try to make you look like a cool guy...

Still waiting for Domer's rebuttal...as he googles "Smash concept" and "Shallow Cross"

ROFL

Only play I need in my playbook is "Win." /domer

You're volunteering to be piled on. When you and your brother come into this thread and started displaying luv-level football acumen, you're going to get treated like dumbasses, rightfully so.

I will continue to state...these ass wipes would never be so insulting to Domers face. It's not a threat. Its a fact. But behind a keyboard, the feel compelled to use the vilest, lowest verbiage possible.

I disagree with his draft idea. It did have some sound premise. However, I have no doubt that the riff raff wouldn't speak to him like that in person.

These jack offs have tried to twist everything I have said to look cool...and you think I look like a massive douche?

Luv level acumen? I may just be guilty of that. But Domer knows quite a bit about football. There are some writers that may agree with him.

He's trying to make a case for ILB at #1. I don't care how big he is, I'd laugh in his face for suggesting that. It's just plain reeruned ND-homer bullshit.

And yet, being of merit, your response, though a bit strong, is no where near as rude and vulgar as the pile on coven...

JFC IT'S AN AIRRAID CONCEPT IN THE NFL!!!!!!!!!! OMERGAHHHHDD!!!!!! GENO SMITH'S OFFENSE IS A GIMMICK IN TEH NFL!!!!!


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I guess i just imagined the college scholarship i earned in football. A full year under center? Wow that makes a world of difference.

"Well, we're the butt of a chiefsplanet pile on. If only they could consider other points of view..." /burt and Domer.

OMERGHARDDD, IT'S ANOTHER ONE!!! fUUUUUCCKKKK YOU AIRRAID, YOU'LL NEVER WORKKKKK!!!! ****ING STUPID GIMMICK ROUTE DESIGN!!!!!!!!!!

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**** YOU AIRRAID!!! AND **** YOU GENO SMITH, YOU STUPID ****ING GIMMICKY BLACK BASTARD!!!!/Domer

YOU DUMB ASS ****TARD!!!ROFLROFL

Good article but I don't think Geno is all that "raw" the only major issue he has IMO is his footwork when throwing and that's easily fixable but hardly makes him a "raw" talent

Were you a navy seal too?

Funny how a college QB doesn't differentiate between an ILB and a pass-rushing OLB. Maybe a few too many concussions?

**** it. I give up. Too many folks who just want to be cool and not even actually discuss...

Mother of ****.

I can't leave you children alone for an hour without this thread going off the rails.

Look - the draft is a very long ways away and at some point my employers are going to expect some work product from me. I'm not going to be able to school-marm you impudent youngsters into behaving yourselves so at some point, please try to un**** yourselves and only speak when you have some form of substance to add.

-- MGMT.

Yep.

He came to a thread about GENO SMITH and pissed in everybody's Cheerios. Douche move#1.

Then you come in here and start telling people they wouldn't talk like that "to his face". Douche move #2.

OH JESUS ****ING CHRIST, WAT IS THIS LEVELS CONCEPT DOING IN OUR AIRRAID GIMMICKY PLAYBOOK!!! BURN IT WITH FIRE, THIS SHIT IS NEVER DONE BY ELITE QBS OR OFFENSES IN THE NFL!!!!

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WHAT THE **** DO YOU MEAN LEVELS IS A STAPLE CONCEPT IN MOST SYSTEMS!!! WTF, PEYTON MANNING EVEN RUNS IT!! FUUUCCKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!

http://smartfootball.com/wp-content/...5/3-Levels.png

This is a start.

http://images.whatmap.multiply.com/i...1i5hwkg&nmid=0

You have the first pick brock. Ray Lewis or Joe Flacco...Go with Joe, it would be plain reeruned to go with Ray. This year its the best inside linebacker to come around in years or a taller slower Blaine Gabbert.

Domer, the majority of plays run by Geno utilize sound, NFL concepts in regard to play and route design. I posted these images for you. Please respond if you disagree. I can even start pulling up tape of Geno completing passes in these same concepts if you like (although you'll have to give me a few days).

There will most likely not be a "consensus" number 1 QB this year. Their value will be determined by the organizations scouting them.

Reminds of this old gem


"What the **** did you just ****ing say about me, you little bitch? I&rsquo;ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I&rsquo;ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I&rsquo;m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the **** out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my ****ing words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, ****er. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You&rsquo;re ****ing dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that&rsquo;s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little &ldquo;clever&rdquo; comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your ****ing tongue. But you couldn&rsquo;t, you didn&rsquo;t, and now you&rsquo;re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You&rsquo;re ****ing dead, kiddo."

One of these scenarios is being done with the benefit of hindsight, the other is being done with a healthy dose of reeruned golden domer homer bullshit. Maybe you should have taken a logic class with that scholarship.

OMG MOAR AIR RAID CONCEPTS BEING USED BY A QB IN THE NFL!!!

Domer, you have to choose which play is which concept. I hope you can figure this out...
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It's just my gut...but I don't think the brainchild at Arrowhead will pull the trigger on Geno come draft day...unless he totally WOWS the scouts at the combine. My hunch is they take the OT from Texas A&M..and try and strike a deal with Miami to sign Bowe to an offer sheet in exchange for 1st round compensation. Then the Chiefs gamble on a QB to slide and flip that pick for either Geno or Barkley.

Alright, I'm done with my rape of Domer for now. I'll leave you with this.

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Ray Lewis is maybe the best ILB of all time. He's only been to one Super Bowl. Patrick Willis and Brian Urlacher are two elite LBs who've never sniffed a Super Bowl in their career.

Meanwhile, Peyton made multiple with a supporting cast we saw was complete garbage. Kurt Warner took an Arizona team to the Super Bowl that's complete garbage with a different QB. Aaron Rodgers and Brees took teams that were lackluster before they got there to super bowl wins.

You cannot be serious right now. 8 out of 10 of the last super bowls were won by QBs considered to be elite. 13 out of 20 QBs in the last 10 Super Bowls were considered to be elite.

So yeah... I'll take the QB who has a 25% chance of being elite 8 days a week out of the LB who has a 75% chance of being elite.

You said it in the post I quoted.

You ****ing idiot.

You're damn right I'm going to be rude to you if you're going to act like a ****ing idiot. You deserve every ounce of abuse people throw at you on this forum.

ROFL

Wow.

*sigh*

A piss fest like this one was bound to happen. This thread has seen spats between Wilson lovers and Barkley lovers, and it was only a matter of time before some dumbasses came in here and made this thread all about them.

In reality I should be thankful that quality Geno talk has been going on for as long as it has. We had a good run.

That's okay. We'll rebuild. The season will be over. Pioli will be fired soon. Clay will post more GIFs. We'll get this sucker back up and running faster than it takes Tim Tebow to release the ball on a throw.

Yep. Give it about two weeks.

Te'o is not even close to being as good as Patrick Willis or Ray Lewis stop with this bullshit. Te'o is essentially Rey Maualuga with more hype

I honestly think that it's gonna be either Geno or Wilson. And it sure seems like it's going to be an EPIC battle.

Idk why Geno hasn't been invited to the Senior Bowl yet, but he surely will. I would love to see those 2 with an NFL coaching staff on a level playing field.

I would take Luke Kuechly over Manti Te'o 9/10 times. Kuechly was a tackling machine in college and was superb in coverage for more than 1 year.

They're the top 2 and it's not even close. I have no ****ing clue where Kiper's getting this Glennon shit from. Probably some $$$ were exchanged to talk him up, most likely.

You're most likely going to see the draft order going KC, Jax, Oakland. Both Wilson and Smith will be gone in those top 3. I'd bet a sizable chunk of money on that happening.

There's a couple of teams that supposedly prefer Glennon, although one of them is reportedly Pioli, who won't be employed...

discuss what?

neither you nor your roided out brah have watched smith play, yet you insist on lecturing us about his merits..

no one gives a shit if 2/3s of a boy band want to draft an over rated lb with the #1 pick of the draft

start a thread called "Dipshits who want to spend the #1 pick on a LB" and quit shitting on our yard...

thank you

and he doesn't have a fraction of the freak athleticism that urlacher had coming out...but he plays for noter dame so...

That's absolutely insane to me. What the **** does Glennon possess that Smith and Wilson don't have besides a slight height advantage?

Because here's what Smith and Wilson both have that Glennon does not:

-Superior stats
-Better decision-making skills
-Better downfield vision
-A more consistently accurate deep ball
-A more consistently accurate intermediate out route
-MUCH better escapability and pocket presence

This is just jaw-dropping to me that any professional scout could possibly like Glennon better than Smith or Wilson.

The Glennon hype kind of reminds me of the pre draft hype of Joe Flacco. Physically impressive players with nice but not overwhelmingly great stats in college. IMO Flacco is probably Glennon's ceiling as a pro. Good but not elite

It's Glennon's size, arm strength, productive numbers with the worst surrounding talent/coaching of any of the QB's and his football IQ which is apparently off the charts.

Bad scouts for bad teams. And potentially smokescreens.

interesting, thanks

How many of you would be apposed to utilizing the pistol with Geno. He is athletic, not RG3 level but don't need to be with his passing with Jamaal Charles

A bit here and there. That's the thing. Never go full pistol.

Tim Tebow went full pistol. Now look at him.

Never go full pistol.

We should probably run a run-heavy style offense with vertical play-action elements and evolve the offense over the course of Geno's development to become more and more vertical development used to set up the run. Maybe then we start incorporating some west coast elements and go full Saunders Coryell. Really, I think Saunder's version of Coryell would suit Geno and our package of offensive talent nicely. That's right, let's bring back Al Saunders as OC.