Not even close. Friedman is as secure as can be and will get what he needs from that trade.

So should I give up Kershaw and Matt Adams for Giancarlo?

Hud is in his own world.

Talking during Duffy's start today about Duffy, and says a couple years ago whenever they played Detroit Leyland would always ask about Duffy and loved him... thought he'd be a star... etc, etc.

Rex wasn't even with the Royals, so why would he be talking to him about Duffy?

:confused::eek:

Rex was with the Royals in 2012.

Leyland was at the Glitter Horse and saw Duffy there..duffy sent Jim a lapdance and some pall malls.

Nobody gives a shit about your fantasy team. No offense.

Don't give up Duffy. We don't need pitching, especially a guy is asking for an even larger contract than Shields will be. Get a bat!

Just found out that I'll be in the George Brett Suite for the Dodgers game Monday. No pitching probable listed for LA, but looks like it might be Grienke.

Grienke vs JGuts I believe.

Wearing this to the K tomorrow...

http://i.imgur.com/OJqMKHh.jpg

KC Star Headline

Man snaps, opens fire on fan with "Party like it's 1985" tshirt

I'll also be wearing Kevlar. If that mother****er is gonna come at me, he best come correct and aim high.

+1

tough loss today guys...

Duel meaning for me being born that year. Where did you get that? It's ****ing awesome.

Eh, can't win them all. At least taking 3 out of 4 against the Tiggers was probably the best scenario.

1st place in halfway of June is always a good thing though.

I want one, where'd you get it?

Like I want to go buy it right now

Like me too. Wife saw this posted and said she get it for me!

It's just awesome. Just the reactions alone would be great. Nothing found on searches though

Now looking at it closer, looks shopped.

Its gonna be Grienke, Kershaw and Haren more then likely

That is a satanic lineup

Would love it if our lineup unloaded on Grienke. Would make me smile a lot.

6 man rotation?

Oh I know. We were so close to the sweep...
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The other two starters are Beckett and Ryu. Haren is basically their #5 starter, and has the highest ERA at around 3.50. There is no easy matchup against Dodgers pitching.

I cannot stand Erica Hosmer and his arrogant face. I wondered why nobody had beaned that douche but why would they? At a negative WAR, who wants him out of the my lineup?


He and Moose are disgusting creatures and we would win this division without the dragging us down. Even replacement level guys would be superior!!!

WAR seems like a bullshit stat to me.

Wins above replacement.

How do they even quantify that?

Well now that we lost finally it's good to see you're in midseason form.

LMAO

It was just a matter of time.

Welcome back

Can anyone explain to me how WAR is a legitimate statistic?

I'm honestly curious.

Watch them get swept at the K this weekend by SEA

I guess I understand the thought behind it, but I still think it's a bullshit stat. Way to many variables that can't be accounted for.

Is that a prediction?

(Please say it is.)

If Como is saying this team sucks, then they'll probably win the WS.

Mark that CoMo prediction. Probably ought to revive the thread.

I've taken data from the latest social buzz around the Royals and did some data visualization. What about these ideas as shirts? Would anyone here buy shirts like these with data driven graphics?

http://i.imgur.com/g4IxkC1.png

What about 1985?

http://i.imgur.com/s1qiKyj.png

YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW!!!!

There's nothing odd about it since they know long term what replacement level players produce when they're in the Bigs. There are not any variables either since the game of baseball has had the same basic rules and stats for over a hundred years. Every data set has a bell curve by rule, and players on each tail end are vastly different from the bulk sitting in the middle


In Erica's case, we know by simply sorting te hitting data that this sissy is one of the very worst hitters of all 1B. So it only makes sense that you could plug in a AAAA player to give you about what the pussy is providing

They'll stick with him at 1B for a while since he's so cheap. But internally I guarantee they're irritated by his act. If he thinks he's getting a big future contract by hitting .250 with 10 home runs and wearing cool faux-hawks, he's got another thing coming

Yeah, I wonder if we can swap hosmer and moose for Arizona's starters and maybe cash or minor leaguers.

Dude, we get it. But please spare us of this pathologic hate you have for certain players. The Royals are in first, and we are enjoying it like most fans of a perennially bad team would.

Just stop, please.

WAR has the potential to be the single most relevant stat in the game, if it is done correctly and if we have confidence that most things have been accounted for.

The most valuable aspect of WAR is it enables you to compare players who play wildly different roles. It also reinforces many things that we "know" but often forget or perhaps underestimate, like a great relief pitcher isn't all that great if you compare him to a great anything else, or a good hitter who plays DH can be a worse player overall than an average hitter who plays a decent SS or CF. (I'm a big fan of the position adjustments)

The biggest outstanding issue with WAR is always whatever is the biggest issue in sabermetrics in general since WAR tries to combine everything. The biggest issue in sabermetrics is measuring defense, so therefore the defensive part of WAR is probably the thing that needs the most work. We pretty much have offense, pitching, adjusting for your park, etc more or less figured out.

Arizona's starter at 1b? Maybe they would trade him for two Royals but they would be Ventura and Gordon at least. And even that is highly doubtful.

Yost claims "I've never been wrong about young talent" and says the keystone cops are fine. Does anyone in our media ever call him out by pointing the facts? Instead of looking at Smardjia we ought to be looking at 1B (and frankly DH since fatty isn't comin back). Our rotation looks ok even next year but until we can hit from our hitting positions we won't be a threat

I do hope Billy restructures and comes back.

Also, when you mention WAR, I think most people assume you are using baseball reference. If you use Fangraphs, you should probably call it fWAR. I prefer baseball reference. I think what fWAR is doing with defense is interesting, but I really don't like the fact that Fangraphs uses FIP for pitchers.

Meh **** it

Go Royals

They said it would take a butt load including possibly Duffy to get Samardjia. That's not happening. I think Zobrist is the most likely given his ability to play 2 positions we are weakest at and it wouldn't cost a ton.

Fun Fact: In baseball's modern era, the greatest single season of all time as measured by WAR is Babe Ruth in 1923 (14.0). The 2nd-best is Dwight Gooden in 1985 (13.2).

That in a nutshell is one reason why people love WAR. How do you objectively compare the value of a given pitcher to a given non-pitcher who played in separate leagues over 60 years apart? That is really the only way.

I keep seeing people float the Zobrist thing and part of their reasoning is him being able to play 3rd, something he's actually never even really done as a MLB player. Yeah, the guy is Mr. Utility, but he's much more of a 2B, SS, OF guy.

All of this is assuming you meant play for Moose when you wrote 2 weakest positions. If not, nevermind.

Luis Valbuena- plays third, mashes righties, perfect platoon partner for valencia.

AL, I've got a "Fun Fact" for ya, In 1980, Matt Keough threw 187 pitches in a 14 inning complete game for Oakland. You'll never see that in today's MLB.

Valbuena

vs RHP: .287/.384/.476/.860
vs LHP: .269/.367/.346/.713

HAVANA -- Cuban authorities say hard-hitting outfielder Yasmani Tomas of Havana's powerhouse ballclub Industriales has defected.

Communist Party newspaper Granma said Friday that he left the island "through unscrupulous, illegal human trafficking."

According to BaseballdeCuba.com, Tomas hit .286 last year with 15 homers, 45 runs scored and 60 RBIs.

The website says he is "without doubt the 'slugger' of the team."

We lose one game out of 10 and Prison Bitch turns into a...well, bitch.

I think he's really bitter with the current Royals organization. He might really be Frank White?

Eval I did on another site regarding trading for Samardzija and the potential gains (based on WAR)

• Shark has 2.3 WAR in 15 starts. 0.15 per start. Worth 2.4 over a half season.
  
• Duffy has 1.0 in basically 9 starts. 0.11 per start. Worth 1.8 over a half season. Half win difference.
  
• Vargas has 1.9 in 15 starts. 0.13 per start. Worth 2.08 over a half season. 1/3 win difference.
  
• Ventura has 1.3 in 13 starts. .1 per start. Worth 1.6 over a half season. 0.8 win difference.
  
• Guthrie has 0.8 in 15 starts. 0.05 per start. Worth 0.9 over a half season. 1.5 win difference.

If they could replace Guthrie with Samardzija, the Royals would probably pick up a few wins, at least on paper. It sounds like, though, to acquire Samardzija you're talking about moving either Duffy or Ventura to make that happen. Then the gain is marginal and the cost is extreme.

The Royals would gain a lot more by acquiring a RF at a much lower cost (Rios, Byrd, Seth Smith, etc).

At least for this season... and if Samardzja continues to pitch at this level (something he has yet to prove he can really do). He fell apart from June on last year, and has an ERA approaching 6 in June this season...

Duncan, you know your shit- I think valbuena is a natural fit for us, but nobody entertains the idea. What am I missing here?

Valbuena would be a nice fit and shouldn't cost much at all. Like the versatility and LH pop.

We're not giving up the DuffMan or Ventura under any circumstance based solely on economics, it's a complete nonstarter. It's entirely possible we'd package Zimmer for him but I believe Smardjia is only signed thru next year so what does 1 year garner on the market? Not Kyle Zimmer.


Oh and I am irked by the young duds regardless whether we win 10 straight or lose 10 straight. They aren't responsible for us being in 1st - in fact they are responsible for us not being a few more games ahead.

Wonder what position he will play on the Yankees?

I love Zobrist, I would be willing to give up some decent prospects even to get him if it meant we could get him for more than just this year. BUT, NO WAY the Royals will swing a deal for him. Zobrist can play RF, 3B, 2B. All positions of need, which would allow either guys to rotate off days, or what I would do, to boot Moose to the curb until Dozier gets here. But Dayton went out of his way in the offseason to obtain Aoki for RF. He signed Infante at 2B for a long term deal. And he's shown no signs whatsoever to give up on Moose, and he signed Valencia to spot him. No way Dayton's ego is going to allow him to make this move.

I don't agree on the Moose comment. He sent him to AAA. If that's not showing signs that he needs to get it together I don't know what it is. He only came back because of the injury to Valencia.

Disagree. If he thought Moose needed more growth, he would've recalled Paredes and let moose figure his shit out in AAA.

Moose needs time in AAA whether Dayton likes it or not. The only thing it could do is help at this point.

Thanks, Mr. Idaho

Per Joel Goldberg

#Royals vs RHP Iwakuma: Dyson 8 Infante 4 Hosmer 3 Butler DH Gordon 7 Perez 2 Cain 9 Moose 5 Escobar 6 Shields 1

Haven't been able to watch the last couple games but is Aoki hurt?

He has a pulled groin - but conversely, Ned REALLY like to give away outs / play Dyson.

So what's the difference between the two players, besides the fact that one broke dick is healthy?

One is Asian, the other is black. :D

Historically, Aoki is a much more effective leadoff hitter.

With his cork-screw swings, poor strikezone judgement--he swung at a ball that hit him ffs--and complete lack of power, I have no idea how he's ever been more valuable than a bag of dicks.

This seems fair.

Jarrod Dyson has a 1.7 WAR this year. How is that broke dick material?