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Walrus 03-04-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9462682)
As for the Royals... a 20-game jump would be a large surprise. I think my expectations as of Day 1 break in around 84-85 wins. Which is probably enough to keep them in the wild card race all season.

If they don't make the playoffs in 2013 or 2014, the trade is a failure.

Reasons for optimism:

1) Better than their record a year ago. The Royals were unlucky, winning about 4-5 games fewer than their pythag suggested was normal.

2) Salvador Perez for 120 games as C and likely 15-20 as DH, rather than 75.

3) Eric Hosmer and Mike Moustakas improvement/rebound potential. The huge upside is still there for both. Early reports are good, and they're focused on things they should be - what pitches they're taking, what pitches they're driving, etc.

4) Stronger overall pitching staff. It's not likely to all work out as sunshine and roses. If it does, the Royals will challenge the Tigers legitimately. But it's still going to be a massive improvement, even if Davis is just league average, Santana is only OK, and Guthrie and Shields take small steps back from their performances last year.

(Of course, it could go south. Guthrie could pitch an entire season like he did in Colorado, Santana could be just as bad, Davis could get hurt, and Shields could do what he did in 2010)

5) Strengths are still strengths. The bullpen is still young, strong, and stacked with hard-throwing, strikeout artists. The defense is still young, and good (And could be much improved with Perez and Cain healthy).

I think Francoeur will have a bounce back year. Very exciting times to be a Royals & Chiefs fan!

gblowfish 03-04-2013 01:53 PM

I think Francouer will suck worse than last year. But that's just me.

Codered 03-04-2013 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9463248)
I think Francouer will suck worse than last year. But that's just me.

And hopefully released.

mr. tegu 03-04-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9463248)
I think Francouer will suck worse than last year. But that's just me.

Maybe that would finally get him off the field. But I am hoping he reverts to two years ago or at least plays at replacement level. I don't really hate the guy, I just hate that he goes up there to the plate with the same amount of grace and rythym that a lumberjack goes up to a giant redwood.

CaliforniaChief 03-04-2013 02:03 PM

Brett's comment to Francouer was awesome:

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duncan_idaho 03-04-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9463248)
I think Francouer will suck worse than last year. But that's just me.

It would be hard for a player to be statistically worse than Francoeur was last year. His negative 2.7 WAR is one of the worst totals in recent memory. Amazingly, a big portion of this negative value was driven by his defense, not his bat.

It's not out of the realm of possibility. But Francoeur was especially awful last year, even for him.

Even a rebound to replacement level adds 3 Ws of value...

duncan_idaho 03-04-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9463261)
Maybe that would finally get him off the field. But I am hoping he reverts to two years ago or at least plays at replacement level. I don't really hate the guy, I just hate that he goes up there to the plate with the same amount of grace and rythym that a lumberjack goes up to a giant redwood.

I don't hate Jeff Francoeur individually. What I hated was the stubborn reliance they showed with him last year. Way too slow to sit him. Way too slow to move him out of a critical spot in the batting order.

That's more about Ned and Dayton than anything else, though.

I can't hate too much... I agree with the decision to extend him at that time, even though I figured he would regress some. I didn't expect a complete fall off the cliff, though.

Walrus 03-04-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9463288)
I don't hate Jeff Francoeur individually. What I hated was the stubborn reliance they showed with him last year. Way too slow to sit him. Way too slow to move him out of a critical spot in the batting order.

That's more about Ned and Dayton than anything else, though.

I can't hate too much... I agree with the decision to extend him at that time, even though I figured he would regress some. I didn't expect a complete fall off the cliff, though.

I was wondering why they didn't bring up Myers last year? Maybe to keep his value as high as possible? Shields better be good!

mr. tegu 03-04-2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Walrus (Post 9463294)
I was wondering why they didn't bring up Myers last year? Maybe to keep his value as high as possible? Shields better be good!

That and even if he was still with us he wouldn't have been up for the first few months to keep him that extra year.

alnorth 03-05-2013 04:16 PM

Royals are winning again, up 7-2 in the 8th inning

AndChiefs 03-05-2013 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9467812)
Royals are winning again, up 7-2 in the 8th inning

and won.

Chief_For_Life58 03-05-2013 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AndChiefs (Post 9467999)
and won.

ballin!

ChiTown 03-05-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9467812)
Royals are winning again, up 7-2 in the 8th inning

Who pitched today?

Discuss Thrower 03-05-2013 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9463271)
Brett's comment to Francouer was awesome:

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Frenchy should be in the cage hitting off a tee?

Guarantee you set that tee up 24inches lower than normal and in the opposite batter's box and he'd still swing at it.

AndChiefs 03-05-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9468016)
Who pitched today?

Chen and Hoch.


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