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Reerun_KC 12-19-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9224473)
He made it to the SB with a non franchise QB and was consistently in teh playoffs.

10+ years ago...

No thinks to rehashing yesterdays trash....

O.city 12-19-2012 02:23 PM

I'll say this first, I'm a big Cowher fan. I like the way his teams perform for him, which would be a huge change to what the current Chiefs do.


However, I do get the criticisms for him.

But, seeing where the current fanbase is and the way things are going, I think the next hire will have some nostalgia with it. Like it or not, the next hire is going to be all about restoring the "fandom" here in KC. I know the best way to do that is to win and reestablish what once was.

Granted what once was, was never with a franchise QB, but thats where I'm heading with this next line of thought.

If you bring in Cowher, you can say he didn't win a SB until he got Big Ben, which is true. But in this situation, he's pretty much going to be forced to start with a QB here.

O.city 12-19-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9224481)
10+ years ago...

No thinks to rehashing yesterdays trash....

So we are throwing out anything and everything that has ever had a tie to the KC chiefs previously, when hiring the next round of coaches?

DeezNutz 12-19-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9224462)
Roethlesburger was to Bill Cowher what Tom Brady is to Bill Bellichick.

Without the QB, they are both Scott Pioli/RAC.

Did Cowher get anywhere with that little gadget QB? (I forget his name) Nope.

Hire another Todd Haley and get a ****ing QB, problem solved.

No thanks to Cowher for me.

Come on, man.

First six years in Pitts:
64 wins
5 Divisional Championships
5 playoff victories
3 AFC Championship appearances
1 SB appearance (lost to Dallas)

All with jack and shit at QB. I'll take that resume. Please.

DeezNutz 12-19-2012 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9224481)
10+ years ago...

No thinks to rehashing yesterdays trash....

He's a brilliant coach who is only 55 years old.

He comes to KC, and the organization is instantly legitimate.

ToxSocks 12-19-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9224497)
He's a brilliant coach who is only 55 years old.

He comes to KC, and the organization is instantly legitimate.

This.

I wasn't a big Cowher supporter, but i've been warming up to the idea and i can get on board.

The team will at least be tough and disciplined.

htismaqe 12-19-2012 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9224497)
He's a brilliant coach who is only 55 years old.

He comes to KC, and the organization is instantly legitimate.

And by the time he's 70, we should be competing for a world championship. :p

Rausch 12-19-2012 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9224483)
I'll say this first, I'm a big Cowher fan. I like the way his teams perform for him, which would be a huge change to what the current Chiefs do.


However, I do get the criticisms for him.

But, seeing where the current fanbase is and the way things are going, I think the next hire will have some nostalgia with it. Like it or not, the next hire is going to be all about restoring the "fandom" here in KC. I know the best way to do that is to win and reestablish what once was.

Granted what once was, was never with a franchise QB, but thats where I'm heading with this next line of thought.

If you bring in Cowher, you can say he didn't win a SB until he got Big Ben, which is true. But in this situation, he's pretty much going to be forced to start with a QB here.

Right now KC needs that "starter coach" that a lot of college programs hire.

They know they won't hit the top 10 but this is the guy that will build the basics and get them to 5 or 6 bowls.

That's Cowher.

He'll win. He won't shock the league or reinvent the wheel but he'll win...

dirk digler 12-19-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9224497)
He's a brilliant coach who is only 55 years old.

He comes to KC, and the organization is instantly legitimate.

I would have to be convinced he still has the desire to do what it takes to win after sitting around for the last 5 years. I really am not interested in another Dick Vermeil situation.

DeezNutz 12-19-2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9224516)
And by the time he's 70, we should be competing for a world championship. :p

Oh, another Te'o supporter...

Rasputin 12-19-2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9224084)
It took Cowher a decade and a half to build a Super Bowl winner in Pitt.

Seems he's not a good choice then. :p

I don't think it would take a whole decade with The Chin & Geno Smith for us to win a Super Bowl. I am not big on Cowher, but I also know our defense wouldn't get pushed around like they do now. We would have a sollid team that gets respect again like the 90's. With Geno Smith could put us in Super Bowl contention imo. Just no damn retread QBs & I will be happy.

Sorter 12-19-2012 02:37 PM

Ross:GM
Cowher:HC
Norv:OC
Rex:DC

Eh. I'm pretty iffy about Norv. Maybe he has a career resurgence ala Wade Phillips. I don't know though. Don't really want Cowher but if Kelly is unavailable and we're taking Geno, then fine.

I'd almost go.
HC: Jay Gruden. Jay does enjoy stretching the field vertically with AJ. Geno +PA +Deep ball= :)
OC: Andy Reid (if possible, doubtful IMO)
DC: Rexasaurus Rex.

This is all just off the top of my head so I'll come up with a better list later.

DeezNutz 12-19-2012 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9224528)
I would have to be convinced he still has the desire to do what it takes to win after sitting around for the last 5 years. I really am not interested in another Dick Vermeil situation.

Vermeil had plenty of desire; his problem was that he's ****ing stupid and too loyal to really stupid people.

O.city 12-19-2012 02:39 PM

Cowhers first 6 years in Pitt, he went to 1 SB, 3 AFC Champ games, and in the playoffs every year.

htismaqe 12-19-2012 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9224529)
Oh, another Te'o supporter...

Touche! :D


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