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Goapics1 08-08-2005 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix
Law's a very good player (to say the least) when healthy. And he's pretty much a physical fitness freak, so I expect him to be a very solid corner to a later age than average.

So, basically, this sucks.

Let's see:

1. Law signs with Jets (AFC East).
2. Miami (AFC East) gets Nick Saban
3. Cleveland (AFC) gets Romeo Crennel.
4. Bruschi has a stroke.
5. Ted Johnson unexpectedly retires from too many concussions.

Seriously -- there are many good and valid reasons that the Patriots will be very good this year and contend for a title, blah, blah, blah, but this off-season has SUCKED!
Forgot one:

6. Charlie Weis, head coach of the 2006 National Champion Notre Dame Fighting Irish.

vailpass 08-08-2005 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan
Oh my you talk smack and too lazy to look up the stats to prove yourself wrong? If Arrowhead mistique has dimished-which is crazy-it is because the Kansas fans always leave by the third quarter. We Mo. fans make up for it in beer comsumption and yell twice as loud. Halfcan
Are you sober? I'm not talking smack but stating an opinion. In your word-salad of a post I think you stated that KC fans always leave by the third quarter. That is something you never used to see and backs up my point.
Let's hear from those who can be objective, regularly attend Arrowhead, and can parse together a cogent sentence or two.
Was Arrowhead as consistently intimidating in 2004 as it was in 1994?

Amnorix 08-08-2005 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can
we've put up 30+ on defenses better than yours....ask the Doncos and Champ Bailey what happened last time they were in Arrowhead...shit, even Surtain when he was with the Dolphins got his squad toasted in Arrowhead...Pittsburgh two years ago...we dropped 30 in New England etc...the list is long

i'd be more worried about Pennington's shoulder....Gun will sick Bell on him, count on it...
That was in 2002, when our defense was too slow to seriously contend and we gave up a horrific 4.7 yards per rush for the entire year. I still dont' know how we went 9-7 that year.

Last year is much more indicative of a "good" Patriots defense.

'course, you guys have an awesome offense, and anyone that disputes that is a moron. But last year when we had a "good" defense we only gave up 19 to you at Arrowhead. 'course we need to see what the rematch looks like this year.

Chiefs Pantalones 08-08-2005 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by vailpass
Arrowhead used to be a tougher place to play than it is today. While still one of the harder road games on the schedule the mystique of Arrowhead has been diminshed.
IMHO the reason for this is the abysmal defensive teams KC has fielded this decade. The Arrowhead advantage was all keyed off of the dominating D of the '90's.
Teams don't fear KC's D like they used to; Arrowhead is no longer the graveyard for visiting teams it used to be.
What is KC's home recored from 2000-2004? What was it from 1996-2000? (I'm too lazy to look it up).
So, we still kick the Broncos ass everytime they come here.

Mystique that.

KCTitus 08-08-2005 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by vailpass
What is KC's home recored from 2000-2004? What was it from 1996-2000? (I'm too lazy to look it up).
1996: 5-3
1997: 8-0
1998: 5-3
1999: 6-2
2000: 5-3
2001: 3-5
2002: 6-2
2003: 8-0
2004: 4-4

Amnorix 08-08-2005 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan
Yeah lucky that Pittsburg had a rookie QB giving up 4 interceptions. Lucky the refs let their offensive line hold every play to protect Tom Terrific-like they used to allow with horseface in Denver. Lucky the had a weak division and get to play at home in horrible conditions tailor made to make teams have to run against their great run defense. Also Lucky Donovon MCflabb got a tummy ache in the two minute drill last year and wasted any chance of an Eagles win. If you don't think Luck has anything to do with football-how do you explain our lowest fumble recovery total ever last year. Its the lucky bounce sometimes that makes a difference. And yes the playoff drought has ruined my life-lol Maybe we will get Lucky this year-haha Halfcan
ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

17-1 against teams with 10+ wins over the last two years (NFL record). 21 straight wins (NFL record). 34-4 record in last two years (NFL best over a 2 year period). 3 SBs in last 4 years (tied for NFL best). 1st in points allowed in 2003, and 2nd (tied) in points allowed in 2004. 4th in scoring offense in 2004.

the Talking Can 08-08-2005 11:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vailpass
Arrowhead used to be a tougher place to play than it is today. While still one of the harder road games on the schedule the mystique of Arrowhead has been diminshed.
IMHO the reason for this is the abysmal defensive teams KC has fielded this decade. The Arrowhead advantage was all keyed off of the dominating D of the '90's.
Teams don't fear KC's D like they used to; Arrowhead is no longer the graveyard for visiting teams it used to be.
What is KC's home recored from 2000-2004? What was it from 1996-2000? (I'm too lazy to look it up).
what was the score last time the Broncos stepped on the field at Arrowhead?

Goapics1 08-08-2005 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix
ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

17-1 against teams with 10+ wins over the last two years (NFL record). 21 straight wins (NFL record). 34-4 record in last two years (NFL best over a 2 year period). 3 SBs in last 4 years (tied for NFL best). 1st in points allowed in 2003, and 2nd (tied) in points allowed in 2004. 4th in scoring offense in 2004.
Sounds like luck to me. ROFL

Amnorix 08-08-2005 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by apics1
Forgot one:

6. Charlie Weis, head coach of the 2006 National Champion Notre Dame Fighting Irish.
Yeah, that one hurt too. Meant to list it.

I'm ignoring some other stuff that just isn't that significant, IMHO, like losing Andruzzi, etc.

Mainly, it's not just that we lost guys, it's that we lost them to unfortunate/unexpected crap. And it seems like everybody else that I wanted to see go to the NFC, like Saban, Romeo and Law, ended up in the AFC, or worse, the AFC East.

:shake:

the Talking Can 08-08-2005 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix
That was in 2002, when our defense was too slow to seriously contend and we gave up a horrific 4.7 yards per rush for the entire year. I still dont' know how we went 9-7 that year.

Last year is much more indicative of a "good" Patriots defense.

'course, you guys have an awesome offense, and anyone that disputes that is a moron. But last year when we had a "good" defense we only gave up 19 to you at Arrowhead. 'course we need to see what the rematch looks like this year.
actually, I forgot we played you last year....I wonder why...lol

Halfcan 08-08-2005 11:58 AM
14 year season ticket holder, and no it wasn't-more fair weather fans last year because the 1-3 start. But the fans are dying for some football and I think Arrowhead will be rocking-even when the KU fans leave early. Our home record has still been one of the best despite the defense though-look that up for me will ya. To say Arrowhead has not been itimidating is just silly. Halfcan

Goapics1 08-08-2005 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix
Yeah, that one hurt too. Meant to list it.

I'm ignoring some other stuff that just isn't that significant, IMHO, like losing Andruzzi, etc.

Mainly, it's not just that we lost guys, it's that we lost them to unfortunate/unexpected crap. And it seems like everybody else that I wanted to see go to the NFC, like Saban, Romeo and Law, ended up in the AFC, or worse, the AFC East.

:shake:
You guys will be alright, as always.

Amnorix 08-08-2005 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by apics1
Sounds like luck to me. ROFL

No kidding.

I'll agree with anyone that 2001 involved a fair bit of luck. Give Bill Belichick that EXACT same team under those exact same conditions 10 times, and he'll win a SB exactly once, I think. Alot bounced our way that season. And I'm not even talking about the tuck rule.

But 2003-04. That ain't luck. That's dominance. Not "winning by 20 every week" like the old Steelers dominance, but winning EVERY damn time dominance.

Hell, the only mystery to me in 2003-04 is how in the #%^ Steve Spurrier's Redskins beat us early in '03? :shake: :shake:

beer bacon 08-08-2005 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix
That was in 2002, when our defense was too slow to seriously contend and we gave up a horrific 4.7 yards per rush for the entire year. I still dont' know how we went 9-7 that year.

Last year is much more indicative of a "good" Patriots defense.

'course, you guys have an awesome offense, and anyone that disputes that is a moron. But last year when we had a "good" defense we only gave up 19 to you at Arrowhead. 'course we need to see what the rematch looks like this year.
I was disappointed with our offensive performance against you guys. We had over 400 yards of offense, but you stopped us/got turnovers when it counted. I guess that is why you guys won the SB though.

Amnorix 08-08-2005 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can
actually, I forgot we played you last year....I wonder why...lol

:D

That '02 game was freaking memorable as hell, however. Winning that game put us at 3-0 so far that year, and yet ALL of Patriots Nation went "Holy s**t!! Something has seriously been exposed here". And it was. You guys showed the NFL how to do it, and we went on to lose our next four, and stagger to the end of the season...


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