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patteeu 12-28-2007 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger
Are you people really supporting that Peterson stay? If so, how exactly do you define success? Or failure, for that matter?

I agree with jettio that Peterson will probably leave at the end of his current contract and that he's earned the opportunity to leave on his own terms. Say what you will about the last 19 years, but they were better than the 16 or 17 years before that by far. Peterson resuscitated a dead franchise, IMO, and he made the Chiefs the top entertainment enterprise in KC for a long time. I'm grateful for that.

What seems ironic to me is that after all these years of people pining for a really bad season so we could get a top pick in the draft instead of going 9-7 or 7-9 as we try to rebuild on the fly, now that they get it they want heads to roll. I can wait a couple more years to see if Carl/Herm can get things back in order before going in a different direction. I don't see any reason to think a different, unspecified GM would have a better chance of getting us to the SB than Peterson in that time period.

shaneo69 12-28-2007 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger
Are you people really supporting that Peterson stay? If so, how exactly do you define success? Or failure, for that matter?

I think success in the NFL can be defined by the number of tailgaters in a team's parking lot./patteeu/denverdanchiefsfan

Mecca 12-28-2007 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu
I agree with jettio that Peterson will probably leave at the end of his current contract and that he's earned the opportunity to leave on his own terms. Say what you will about the last 19 years, but they were better than the 16 or 17 years before that by far. Peterson resuscitated a dead franchise, IMO, and he made the Chiefs the top entertainment enterprise in KC for a long time. I'm grateful for that.

What seems ironic to me is that after all these years of people pining for a really bad season so we could get a top pick in the draft instead of going 9-7 or 7-9 as we try to rebuild on the fly, now that they get it they want heads to roll. I can wait a couple more years to see if Carl/Herm can get things back in order before going in a different direction. I don't see any reason to think a different, unspecified GM would have a better chance of getting us to the SB than Peterson in that time period.

Part of wanting the awful year has to do with wanting Carl out of here....

I like how Carl has been basically horrible for the past 10 years and some people think he's earned his right go out on his own terms....morons I swear.

BigMeatballDave 12-28-2007 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by denverdanchiefsfan
That's funny - whiny bitches calling us homers just because we don't drink their koolaid.ROFL

Are you really this stupid? LMAO

1ChiefsDan 12-28-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger
Are you people really supporting that Peterson stay? If so, how exactly do you define success? Or failure, for that matter?

I don't believe I ever expressed "support" for Peterson. I have found the extreme reactions on this board amusing at times, but the majority of the posts on here are more tiring than the Chiefs failures.

As a football fan I have grown tired of Peterson. As a business man, you can't argue with his success. I think that is where all the anger comes from. So many fans don't see the NFL as a business - even though it is one of the largest in the world in terms of revenue.

As for Herm - he inherited an aging team. I get so tired of hearing "Herm destroyed the offense". AGE destroyed the offense. I didn't like the fact that an all out search was conducted for a new coach and Herm was handed the job because of history with Peterson. However, he is the coach of the only football team I cheer for. I choose to believe that he is making moves to make this team better. I also understand that with all of the problems he inherited with this team it isn't going to get better overnight.

BigMeatballDave 12-28-2007 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu
I agree with jettio that Peterson will probably leave at the end of his current contract and that he's earned the opportunity to leave on his own terms. Say what you will about the last 19 years, but they were better than the 16 or 17 years before that by far. Peterson resuscitated a dead franchise, IMO, and he made the Chiefs the top entertainment enterprise in KC for a long time. I'm grateful for that.

What seems ironic to me is that after all these years of people pining for a really bad season so we could get a top pick in the draft instead of going 9-7 or 7-9 as we try to rebuild on the fly, now that they get it they want heads to roll. I can wait a couple more years to see if Carl/Herm can get things back in order before going in a different direction. I don't see any reason to think a different, unspecified GM would have a better chance of getting us to the SB than Peterson in that time period.

Carl would like to clone 80,000 of you.

Mecca 12-28-2007 07:47 PM

If you wanna say he's a great businessman fine, then replace him as GM and leave him as president. It's not the GM's job to think about business it's his job to assemble the best roster he can.

1ChiefsDan 12-28-2007 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave
Are you really this stupid? LMAO

Why, because I don't agree with you? Because I don't have the CP mantra "Fire Herm/Carl" in every post? Explain what I wrote that appears so stupid to you.

BigMeatballDave 12-28-2007 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by denverdanchiefsfan

As a football fan I have grown tired of Peterson. As a business man, you can't argue with his success. I think that is where all the anger comes from. So many fans don't see the NFL as a business - even though it is one of the largest in the world in terms of revenue.

Fans don't give a shit about the business side. It does not translate into playoff wins.

1ChiefsDan 12-28-2007 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
If you wanna say he's a great businessman fine, then replace him as GM and leave him as president. It's not the GM's job to think about business it's his job to assemble the best roster he can.

Please provide the job decription you received from any NFL team for a GM position.

Mecca 12-28-2007 07:51 PM

The GM is about player decisions and working the cap...

The President cares about profit margin those 2 jobs actually should conflict which each other, 1 guy doing both of them is a conflictive interest..

1ChiefsDan 12-28-2007 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave
Fans don't give a shit about the business side. It does not translate into playoff wins.

See, I knew you had a brain cell still alive. You red my post and saw that it said "As a football fan I have grown tired of Peterson".

Good job.

BigMeatballDave 12-28-2007 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by denverdanchiefsfan
Why, because I don't agree with you? Because I don't have the CP mantra "Fire Herm/Carl" in every post? Explain what I wrote that appears so stupid to you.

I don't care about the Herm part. I am OK with him getting another season. Support for Carl is just plain dumb.

Mecca 12-28-2007 07:53 PM

19 years isn't enough, he needs 30 years to truly unleash his master plan. So every team in the league can go to a Bowl but him in his tenure..

At this point I think I'll see a Browns/Cardinals Superbowl before I ever see the Chiefs there.

1ChiefsDan 12-28-2007 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
The GM is about player decisions and working the cap...

The President cares about profit margin those 2 jobs actually should conflict which each other, 1 guy doing both of them is a conflictive interest..

Nice "opinion". Where is this in the job decription for Peterson or any other NFL GM?


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