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Sure-Oz 06-30-2008 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jayhawkerman2001 (Post 4821413)
my god Soria must have balls of ****ing steel or something, cause he never seems to be out of control of the situation. The kid is young and he is ****ing NASTY!!!

Also, did anybody understand what Guillen was saying after the game? I couldn't understand a ****ing word he said, heh. The only thing i really heard was that Olivo got lucky, or somethin like that. He seems like a Chad Johnson type of jerk, where he's god and everybody else isnt worth squat...
He wasn't being a jerk, olivo did get lucky the guy hung one 0-2, he also said we are focusing on wins and that we have the guys here to win! It was a good interview. Also said when the pitcher walks the guy to get to him it motivates him even more. nuff said

KcMizzou 06-30-2008 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jayhawkerman2001 (Post 4821423)
aye, too many ****ing times we've had a really good reliever that we tried to move to the rotation and it just isnt as good. Leave well enough alone.
And by changing his role, you run a risk of screwing him up... It's not worth the risk. Not when he's THAT good.

Coach 06-30-2008 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 4821417)
We need to maintain focus defensively. We lost the two to the Cards cause of shitty play in the field. I really feel better these days with Gathright ot of the lineup as much as I like him.
Not to mention the offense let us down on one of those games. Can't believe some dude named Boggs dominate us. Inexcuseable.

I know we're only 10 games out of first, but I feel that KC should be looking for a big bat. The sooner, the better IMHO.

To be honest with you, when the season started, if anybody told me that KC would be within 8-10 games of first place by the All-Star, I would had have a hard time buying that. But now, it's a possibility.

petegz28 06-30-2008 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 4821425)
Why limit a guy as good as Soria to 80 innings a year when he could pitch 210 inings? Let Ramirez or Mahay pitch. Good enough.
because I would rather have 80 innings that equal around 75 wins rather than 35-40 games that maybe he wins 17 if he has offense and a pen.

Hammock Parties 06-30-2008 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 4821432)
He wasn't being a jerk, olivo did get lucky the guy hung one 0-2, he also said we are focusing on wins and that we have the guys here to win! It was a good interview. Also said when the pitcher walks the guy to get to him it motivates him even more. nuff said
you guys are probably right, i think i just misheard what he had said. i could barely understand much of it, heh.

KcMizzou 06-30-2008 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 4821431)
Props to Hillman tonight.....

1. Olivo pinch hit...
2. Bunt call with Grudz...
3. Stayed with Mayhay until we got the lead...

3 game impacting decisions that paid off tonight.
Hell yeah.

We're quick to blame a manager when we lose... not so quick to give credit.

I like Hillman.

Sure-Oz 06-30-2008 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 4821425)
Why limit a guy as good as Soria to 80 innings a year when he could pitch 210 inings? Let Ramirez or Mahay pitch. Good enough.
I think we'd have more excitement...than we want honestly...

Yeah a guy with 4 pitches is rare as a closer, but this guy wins games for us by dominating the opposition. Id rather have him preserve 3-4 victories in a week than win possibly 1 game. I am no longer nervous as a fan that our closer is going to blow it, its been a long time.

Reaper16 06-30-2008 09:34 PM
Well, firstly, elite closers are not as hard to find as elite starters. The difference in value between and elite starter and an elite closer is astronomical. 2nd, Soria would not really be a reliever converted to a starter. Soria was a starter his whole career that we converted to a reliever.

Coach 06-30-2008 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 4821404)
Yep. Hopefully the guys in blue can maintain a .500 or better ball on this road trip. Baltimore, for whatever reasons, always been a pain in our asses, and Tampa Bay who I feel is the best team in the AL right now, so that ain't gonna be a picnic there.

And when the guys come back to the "K" they square off aganist the White Suck, so that'll give them a chance to catch them in the standings.
I should also point out that after the ASG, the Royals play aganist the White Suck at Chicago for 3 games, and back to the "K" for 3 games aganist Detroit.

They have a great oppiturnity to make up some serious ground.

Sure-Oz 06-30-2008 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jayhawkerman2001 (Post 4821441)
you guys are probably right, i think i just misheard what he had said. i could barely understand much of it, heh.
Ill admit he kinda comes off as cockish like a chad johnson but hey he can back it up too. It was nice to hear that the important part is winning and that he knows his teammates can do that

Coach 06-30-2008 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 4821443)
Hell yeah.

We're quick to blame a manager when we lose... not so quick to give credit.

I like Hillman.
Hell, a complete change over Dummy Bell. Granted, there are some calls that I will question him, but he ain't no dummy. Sometimes it's pure luck. Sometimes it is what it is. Either way, a win is a win. I'll give him credit for that, and I like him as well.

I just hope he can do it on a consistent basis, meaning that keep the guys competitive, and not just one fluke year (2003 for example)

Sure-Oz 06-30-2008 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 4821447)
Well, firstly, elite closers are not as hard to find as elite starters. The difference in value between and elite starter and an elite closer is astronomical. 2nd, Soria would not really be a reliever converted to a starter. Soria was a starter his whole career that we converted to a reliever.
You have a point as well as Bwillie, i just don't think it will happen in the near future. We locked this guy to slam the door and he does it with ease. I don't think Dayton will even think about it unless we get someone nearly as dominant to close games out. mahay and ramirez are good, but they are good in their roles. Soria never gets shaken

Hammock Parties 06-30-2008 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 4821425)
Why limit a guy as good as Soria to 80 innings a year when he could pitch 210 inings? Let Ramirez or Mahay pitch. Good enough.
ok, good point to ponder here. remember the past couple years before soria became our closer, ambiorix burgos, mike mcdougal ring a bell? leads went for not daily.

There have been so many fooking leads that this team had given up before soria that it makes me sick even thinking about it.

WE MUST KEEP SORIA AS THE CLOSER!!! No more leads given up PLEASE!!!

KcMizzou 06-30-2008 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 4821452)
Ill admit he kinda comes off as cockish like a chad johnson but hey he can back it up too. It was nice to hear that the important part is winning and that he knows his teammates can do that
To me, Guillen's just a hot headed loudmouth.

In the grand scheme of things, that's not so bad.

I just think we'd be a lot worse off without him.

Sure-Oz 06-30-2008 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 4821439)
because I would rather have 80 innings that equal around 75 wins rather than 35-40 games that maybe he wins 17 if he has offense and a pen.
I shouldn't have even posted...:thumb:


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