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KChiefs1 12-01-2008 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5261868)
I think I agree with this. None of these top defensive ends really excite me, so that basically leaves 1 quarterback and a couple of offensive tackles in the top 5, IMO. We don't have a shot at that QB, so it might be better to be in the 5-7 range.

Maulauga will still be available at #5...he's the game-changer in this draft IMHO....

OnTheWarpath15 12-01-2008 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5262561)
Because he has a S next to his name....in the NFL you could probably play him at SS he has great size but he can do either. Now someone will flip out that he doesn't have great stats because all he's asked to do at SC is play the deep middle, he's asked to not give up big plays and be the deep cover guy which he does a very good job at.

If what you say is true, then you've brought it on yourself.

You continue to beat the drum that it's horrible value to take a MLB in the Top 5, but then are advocating doing the exact same thing by taking a safety Top 5, which would also be horrible value.

If #5 is too high to take a MLB, which we DESPERATELY need, then it's also too high to take a Safety with that same pick. Especially when we have more pressing needs.

I'm a huge fan of Mays, but I think there will be better options available at positions of desperate need when we pick - whether it's at #2 or #8 - or anywhere in between.

the Talking Can 12-01-2008 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 5262445)
I live in Atlanta and it is my opinion based on what I've witnessed and it is shared by many in this town. I don't know what people in Athens believe.

you'd get laughed at if you said any of that in athens

although it is still fantasy no matter where you say it

Mecca 12-01-2008 02:04 PM

One of those DE's will drop into the top of the 2nd...there's a bunch of DE's but no real true elite prospect.

Hell Cushing might drop into the top of the 2nd, and anyone who watches SC knows how much Cushing tends to stand out amongst the other great players.

Mecca 12-01-2008 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 5262610)
Maulauga will still be available at #5...he's the game-changer in this draft IMHO....

What if I told you as someone who watches every SC game I think he's the 3rd best NFL player from that defense?

ChiefsCountry 12-01-2008 02:05 PM

If we dont take Oher in the first, Mack in the 2nd, and Loadholt in the 3rd then I am revolting. OL or bust.

Brock 12-01-2008 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5262627)
If we dont take Oher in the first, Mack in the 2nd, and Loadholt in the 3rd then I am revolting. OL or bust.

ROFL

If not joking, sorry.

ChiefsCountry 12-01-2008 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5262626)
What if I told you as someone who watches every SC game I think he's the 3rd best NFL player from that defense?

The DE cant think of his name the other one?

Mecca 12-01-2008 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5262627)
If we dont take Oher in the first, Mack in the 2nd, and Loadholt in the 3rd then I am revolting. OL or bust.

ROFL

findthedr will make his return!

Mecca 12-01-2008 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5262632)
The DE cant think of his name the other one?

I think Mays and Cushing will be better NFL players.....SC only has 1 senior end and it's Kyle Moore and he's probably a backup in the NFL..who you thinking of the DT Moala?

RedThat 12-01-2008 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5262590)
When he measures in at 6'3 230lbs and has a 40 time that is sub 4.4 someone will completely fall in love.

Not to mention he has 3 years of starting experience in a pro style defense and is very good in coverage. When you see that SC never gets beat deep, he's why alot of times he's asked to cover that by himself, the amount of field he's asked to cover is ridiculous yet he does it.

Those are some great intangibles and attributes for a safety. but im asking for your opinion Mecca, Do you think he is good enough to go in the top 5 or top 10?

Im not against picking Mays if it means improvement on the defense, I think this team could really use a stud at safety because Im not sold on either Pollard or Page. but, if the Chiefs could trade down to like 11th or 12th and stockpile on picks and still manage to pick Mays, then that would put a smile on my face. Improvement in the secondary plus stockpiling draft picks is what this fan wouldn't mind.

DaneMcCloud 12-01-2008 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5262620)
One of those DE's will drop into the top of the 2nd...there's a bunch of DE's but no real true elite prospect.

Hell Cushing might drop into the top of the 2nd, and anyone who watches SC knows how much Cushing tends to stand out amongst the other great players.

Cushing isn't a first rounder, IMO.

He'd be a great value (and need) pick in the top of the 2nd.

Mecca 12-01-2008 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5262638)
Those are some great intangibles and attributes for a safety. but im asking for your opinion Mecca, Do you think he is good enough to go in the top 5 or top 10?

Im not against picking Mays if it means improvement on the defense, I think this team could really use a stud at safety because Im not sold on either Pollard or Page. but, if the Chiefs could trade down to like 11th or 12th and stockpile on picks and still manage to pick Mays, then that would put a smile on my face. Improvement in the secondary plus stockpiling draft picks is what this fan wouldn't mind.

If you want a guy who is an athletic freak, runs like a CB built like a LB that can cover the entire deep middle by himself, then you'll love him. Plus he has room to improve. He's still very raw as a blitzer because he's very seldom asked to do that because of his skill in coverage.

I'd take him because what Taylor Mays brings is special, he allows the team to blitz because his range allows him to get to places most other guys never could.

ChiefsCountry 12-01-2008 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5262637)
I think Mays and Cushing will be better NFL players.....SC only has 1 senior end and it's Kyle Moore and he's probably a backup in the NFL..who you thinking of the DT Moala?

No its the underclassman I think its Griffin? Is that right.

DaKCMan AP 12-01-2008 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 5262273)
It amazes me how you hold yourself up as an expert and judge all others to be dumbasses with your only authority is you watched some games and posted on Chiefs Planet.

All of your posting knowledge doesn't change the fact that Stafford doesn't move well in the pocket even though he seldom gets touched. His best throws are typically on the move. He has poor decission making ability so he typically locks onto a single receiver. He is a three year starter and has under performed even though he has one of the best receivers in the SEC in Massaquoi.

He may become a serviceable QB in the NFL, but he is far from ready. Under the coaching of Dick Curl Stafford will take years to be ready to assume leadership.

Here in Atlanta I have yet to find any UGA fan that is overly impressed with Stafford. When I ask local UGA fans if they think Stafford will make a good NFL QB the most common response he might make a good 2nd or 3rd string QB. These are knowledgeable fans who have good reason for their opinion. That is more credible than you who can watch TV and post on a BB.

My opinion on the UGA OL is based on how Stafford seldom gets touched when he drops back to pass. Those three Freshmen you speak of are doing a great job.

This is one of the most ridiculous pieces of trash I've ever seen about evaluating a player.


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